View Full Version : Sticks and stones may break my bones???????
Josh_the_Harris
03-25-2005, 04:57 PM
Everyone has heard the saying.
But if you think about it a stick would have to be thrown pretty hard to break your bone
Words do hurt...sometimes more than actions.
I think that the person who made up that saying was deaf. Does anyone agree?
.........Does anyone care?
Keela417
03-25-2005, 05:01 PM
Number one, no one cares.
Number two, I agree that words can hurt a whole lot more.
Number three, what do deaf people have to do with this?
Number four, why do you insist on making so many threads?
And number five, 'Sticks and stones may break my bones' is only half of the phrase, and it isn't a question.
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 05:02 PM
First of all, don't put in so many ?'s for your title. You don't need that many. Just one... It makes you look... n00bish. Secondly, don't put so many lines between sentences, your just making it bigger, and making people scrool (yeah, where that lazy :lol: )
Ok, enough flaming...
Well, you know, A stone would hurt alot if someone threw it at you. Especially since the word "Stone" Usually means a large rock. But, words can definately hurt people, but in a different way.
*shrugs*
Really, I don't care...
Later,
Jon :P
Keela417
03-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Kid, you make me angry.
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 05:06 PM
Oh, sorry, I wans't talking to you. I was talking to the first guy, because when I clicked reply, you hadn't posted yet. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Later,
Jon :P
Josh_the_Harris
03-25-2005, 05:10 PM
One. I'm a n00b cos I'm only about 13 posts
Two. I start up so many threads to get posts and a higher ranking
Three. Apologies for the line thing. I will take your advise oh master and I, grasshopper, will try to improve
Four. A deaf person couldn't be hurt by words could he?
Five. I am just naturally annoying I suppose. It's a talent that not everyone has (and that no-one wants or likes)
Shadow Crest
03-25-2005, 05:13 PM
ok, this topic was basically pointless
I figure that sticks and stones can break bones, but words can hurt worse. For example: a stick could leave a cut, turning into a scar possibly. A word can do that. It may not be true, but it can leave a 'scar' , even if it is not true.
For example- a radio announcer in Colorado accused Todd Helton of using steroids, although Helton didn't. Now, we could be suspicious that Helton could be using steroids.
Ok, that is about all I have to say
OFFTOPIC(sort of)- I heard that Einstein said, after the A-bomb was completed, "World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones" Just something else about sticks and stones.
Rock on!
Josh_the_Harris
03-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Im only 6 now, they took away my posts I got from the spamming one despite the fact I apologizes (*glares at them*) but hey it's their forum
Oh and if anyone wants to know what this has to do with this topic it's because i said in the earlier post that I had 13 posts
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Wow, Einstein said that? After the A-Bomb was invented, they'd use the A-Bomb... right? not sticks and stones... Hehe...
Later,
Jon :P
Shadow Crest
03-25-2005, 05:18 PM
ok, can we stop... oh *waves OFFTOPIC flag* so you are Jonanin. I have heard that you do this to n00bs. Please dont hurt me *grabs stick* and lets get ontopic.
rock on!
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 05:20 PM
I edited my post... Sorry. Where'd you hear that anyways?
Also, If you say something mean to someone, then they might use sticks and stones to fight back. I guess people are different. Some use sticks and stones(fighting, physical) and some just say nasty and mean things (verbal)
It depends on the person.
Later,
Jon :P
Shadow Crest
03-25-2005, 05:24 PM
I forgot where I heard that. Someone mentioned it somewhere... not sure who.
Anyways, there could be hundreds of meanings for the phrase. I think that there was one that was even related to Catholicism. I forget how it went, but I will try and find it.
theryman
03-25-2005, 05:32 PM
Wow, Einstein said that? After the A-Bomb was invented, they'd use the A-Bomb... right? not sticks and stones... Hehe...
Later,
Jon :P
Maybe you were being sarcastic, but her meant that the A-Bomb would blow us all up and make us primitive again.
*Grabs thread and runs with it*
Keela417
03-25-2005, 05:40 PM
Oh, sorry, I wans't talking to you. I was talking to the first guy, because when I clicked reply, you hadn't posted yet. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
No, that's my fault. I'm sorry, but I was talking to him.
Sperry
03-25-2005, 06:29 PM
What Einstein probably meant was that humanity would cause great damage to itself, and lose its current technology. So that the next war (after the nuke war) would be highly primative. Or at least, that's a possibility.
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 06:41 PM
I was being sarcastic... :D
But by the time we have nuke wars, there will be alot of new technologies, such as shields (what?), anti-nuke weapons, AND countries will not let each other have nukes. The problem is, they might prevent other countries from having nukes by nuking them... Uh oh... I can see where the Nuke Wars would come...
Later,
Jon :P
Sperry
03-25-2005, 06:42 PM
Ah Johnny, you grammar is astonishing. :D Let's ask Albert then!
Jonanin
03-25-2005, 06:45 PM
Are you being sarcastic or what?
Also, I like the nick name Alby for albert. Heh...
Hey Alby! lolwtfleikomgrofl?!
Later,
Jon :P
Sperry
03-25-2005, 07:02 PM
Would Einsten know "lol"?
Rambo
03-25-2005, 07:08 PM
Number one, no one cares.
Number two, I agree that words can hurt a whole lot more.
Number three, what do deaf people have to do with this?
Number four, why do you insist on making so many threads?
And number five, 'Sticks and stones may break my bones' is only half of the phrase, and it isn't a question.
I seem to ask this question so much:
If you don't care, why do you post your opinion?
Words only hurt when they're pointed toward you in an angry way. And it helps for them to be true.
Vagrant
03-26-2005, 01:07 AM
This is completely off, buttttt:
But if you think about it a stick would have to be thrown pretty hard to break your bone
1) You wouldn't throw the stick. You'd beat someone with it.
2) A "stick" has no definite size.
3) Spears can break your bones, they can be thrown, and can technically be considered "sticks."
Sperry
03-26-2005, 06:22 AM
But they have been manipulated by man, and are properly called "spears". A stick is a dead branch or twig (depending on size) which has fallen away from the plant of its creation. If its been muddled around with by humans, they tend to give it better name than "stick".
jason
03-26-2005, 06:55 AM
One. I'm a n00b cos I'm only about 13 posts.
Two. I start up so many threads to get posts and a higher ranking.
Stop Right there!
For one. You are not a n00b because of your post count. You are a n00b when you are constantly breaking the rules, not posting properly, and pretty much just breaking the rules.
And two. Rank does not matter, take a look at me. I have about 4000 posts and how many people here know much about me? Two, maybe three?
Rank, well, rank means absolutely, positively nothing at all. If you want to have a higher rank, then go to spammer land and post to your delight. Remember, quality before quantity. I make, what? 3 to 5 posts a week. But, they probably all contribute. Now, just remember this in the future, you'll be alright.
Sperry
03-26-2005, 07:18 AM
One. I'm a n00b cos I'm only about 13 postsWell let's just see, you have 13 posts. So what? A member can be extremely experienced and an excellent poster with only 13 posts (not that we see those guys very often). They can, yes, also be a "n00b", at that point. The sheer fact that you called yourself a "n00b" makes you ever closer to one. Don't do it, it's annoying.Two. I start up so many threads to get posts and a higher ranking.WOW, you must be the strangest person I've ever met. There are dozens of topics that are already there, there's no reason for you to make stupid topics just to raise your count. Lots of people do it, but they actually add something when their post count goes up. Like Jason said, there's an entire forum, over 1000 topics for you to raise your post count in. Don't waste our time reading stupid topics if they're out here.
Jason, the obvious reason to that is that you don't talk about yourself that often, regardless of activity. I know a few things about you, but that's just sheer chance. Most members don't reveal anything about themselves.
theryman
03-26-2005, 07:48 AM
I was being sarcastic... :D
See! This is why we need the blue text! It's there for a reason.
You know, I'm just saying this by observation and experience, but if someone hits you with a really big stick, your gonna crumple, roll down the hill, and fall of the wall, most likely breaking a bone in the process.
Homer43
03-26-2005, 11:53 AM
yeah, like we really need blue text :/
Einstein's quote, when asked by an interviewer in the late fifties about the effects of Nuclear war.
"Sir, World War Three will be fought with atomic bombs.
World War four will be fought with sticks and stone."
(Which has absolutely nothing to do with the venerable childhood retort. Sticks and Stone can break my bones but words will never hurt me. when you mature you'll find that it isn't true. Words can and do hurt far worse, more deeply and longer than simple physical injury.)
Rambo
03-26-2005, 11:08 PM
Words can and do hurt far worse, more deeply and longer than simple physical injury.
Unless you get shot in the face with a shotgun. That's a pretty deep wound...
Vagrant
03-26-2005, 11:49 PM
Words can and do hurt far worse, more deeply and longer than simple physical injury.
Unless you get shot in the face with a shotgun. That's a pretty deep wound...
Nah, that's more along the lines of a really disturbing decapitation.
"Sir, World War Three will be fought with atomic bombs.
World War four will be fought with sticks and stone."
You sure that's the right quote? I thought it was:
"I know not the weapons of WW III, but I know that the weapons of WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones."
I did a google, found about five variations, posted the first one.
I yield the floor to your quote, believing it to be more accurate.
mattz1010
03-28-2005, 06:09 PM
A few well thought words can be stronger than all the nukes in the world.
Example... negotiations instead of a war.
Someone breaks up with you, instead of a fight after school....
Unless you haven't had a girlfriend. Then you wouldn't know what its like.
Plmzaq
03-28-2005, 06:11 PM
The problem with that perfect world is anger... no one wants to see someone who hurt them get away with it... large skirmishes like these become wars... man sins... it's inevitable
mattz1010
03-28-2005, 07:30 PM
and i say:
sins are inevitable because we do not think of whats going to happen in the future by the course of our actions.
In the attack against Iraq, if the wrong things happened, we could have WWIII by now. Do YOU want another world war so soon?
As anti-religious as i am, I know you'd say: thats why there's a confessions center (gah, i really have to catch up on LOTS of stuff, i dont even know the name for confessions)
Sperry
03-29-2005, 01:05 PM
Getting socially belittled is just a WEE bit more damaging than being dumped by "the hot chick".
Looks like someone needs to brush up on their "no duh" studies.
JoeyG
03-29-2005, 01:13 PM
Pointless posts' points pointedly point nowhere.
Summary of this thread:
Words can't hurt you > yes they can > nukes can hurt you more > Einstien > WW4 > WW3 > negotiations > words > can words hurt you > yes > what words hurt the most > my summary
mattz1010
03-29-2005, 02:51 PM
er, no. no topic ever ends unless someone comes up with a real conclusion.
And no, she wasn't the 'hot chick', for your information.
Words, most of us don’t consider how much impact they actually have. Words have moved the world as we know it immense distances.
Words inspire us to be more than we believed possible, read the words of people such as Socrates, Martin L King, John F Kennedy. Even fiction writers have deeply influenced the world as we know it, Verne, Hemingway, Wolfe, Asimov.
On the darker side, Lenin, Hitler, Mao Se Duong ( Mao Tse Tung), Pious, that list could go back many, many centuries. The death toll that came from their words runs to the hundreds of millions.
One person can injure a limited number, but person’s words can inspire others to slaughtering their fellow humans in wholesale lot. Sometimes on an continent wide industrial scale.
A punch in the nose hurts for a few days and heals.
Public humiliation from someone’s words can and does hurt much longer, often never healing completely.
I use words as a tool, as a way to convey a reader to places that aren’t, people who may be, events that haven’t happened yet. While my work may last a few years, some have rung down history unchanged and inspire today as deeply as when they were uttered.
In the long run words can be the most powerful tool of salvation, or destruction of our species.
”Man is the only animal that can lie, and has need too.” Samuel Clemens. (Mark Twain)
ManUpstairs
03-30-2005, 09:44 AM
Words, most of us don’t consider how much impact they actually have. Words have moved the world as we know it immense distances.
Words inspire us to be more than we believed possible, read the words of people such as Socrates, Martin L King, John F Kennedy. Even fiction writers have deeply influenced the world as we know it, Verne, Hemingway, Wolfe, Asimov.
On the darker side, Lenin, Hitler, Mao Se Duong ( Mao Tse Tung), Pious, that list could go back many, many centuries. The death toll that came from their words runs to the hundreds of millions.
One person can injure a limited number, but person’s words can inspire others to slaughtering their fellow humans in wholesale lot. Sometimes on an continent wide industrial scale.
A punch in the nose hurts for a few days and heals.
Public humiliation from someone’s words can and does hurt much longer, often never healing completely.
I use words as a tool, as a way to convey a reader to places that aren’t, people who may be, events that haven’t happened yet. While my work may last a few years, some have rung down history unchanged and inspire today as deeply as when they were uttered.
In the long run words can be the most powerful tool of salvation, or destruction of our species.
”Man is the only animal that can lie, and has need too.” Samuel Clemens. (Mark Twain)
That was well written Richard, I think you summed it up nicely. I wasn't even planning to look at this topic until I saw your name under it.
A punch in the nose hurts for a few days and heals.
Unless you have hemophilia.
As Richard said, words are often far more powerful then actions. If you get hurt deeply by words, it will stay with you until you die. Physical pain fades away over time, but words can remain forever.
-Daniel
Vagrant
03-30-2005, 11:56 AM
As Richard said, words are often far more powerful then actions. If you get hurt deeply by words, it will stay with you until you die. Physical pain fades away over time, but words can remain forever.
Actually....
You get a leg blown off. That remains for the rest of your life.
Hitler invaded all of Europe and began exterminating Jews. I haven't seen the memory of the Halocaust fading. In fact, I haven't seen the memory of many wars at all fading.
You can't compare Martin Luther's words to a punch in the nose... there's a major significance difference.
Imagine a kid says they love you, but never give any physical indication like a hug or something? Wouldn't that be kind of discouraging?
Sperry
03-30-2005, 01:16 PM
Now, tell me Vagrant, how many times do you hear about suicides over lost limbs? Not very often. Children kill themselves all the time because they're bullied and belittled. And none of them were tilted over.Imagine a kid says they love you, but never give any physical indication like a hug or something? Wouldn't that be kind of discouraging? I hate you. That sounds encouraging! -_-
Vagrant
03-30-2005, 03:27 PM
I hate you. That sounds encouraging! -_-
There's something about written words that prevents them from coming out right -- it could be a brotherly hate. It could be a teasing "I hate you!" Or it could be a truthful one. The same set of words can mean multiple things if you use a different tone.
Now, tell me Vagrant, how many times do you hear about suicides over lost limbs? Not very often
People are traumatized by war, and death in general. Shell shock victims, the Age of Anxiety, you name it, war can be traumatizing, and will often lead people to commit suicide.
mattz1010
03-30-2005, 03:52 PM
Have you ever REALLY cared for someone?
(no, not in that sense, you dirty little *******)
It sucks to know, however much you try to help them, they disbelieve you.
Mattz1010; Have you ever REALLY cared for someone?
It sucks to know, however much you try to help them, they disbelieve you.
In that short questioning statement is a world of hurt.
To love and be mistrusted, ignored or dismissed by the one you love deeply? To be considered an inconsequential annoyance? That will rip your soul out and shred it before your eyes. That is perhaps the most agonizing emotional pain a person can feel.
Unrequited loved is painful enough, but to be actively dismissed and belittled by the one who has your heart in the palm of their hand is far, far worse.
mattz1010
03-30-2005, 05:07 PM
last sentence = happened to me
excluding the belittled part.
Sorry, I should have edited better, that sentence should read.
Unrequited loved is painful enough, but to be actively dismissed or belittled by the one who has your heart in the palm of their hand is far, far worse.
As have I matt, as have I.
Thereby I know the exquisite pain it brings to one heart.
Vagrant; You can't compare Martin Luther's words to a punch in the nose... there's a major significance difference.
I think you better reread my post if you actually came away with the impression that is what I said or implied.
As for War, unless you can tell me you have walked the road to hell that war is, do not presume to speak of it. I've seen war in its horrible bloody entirety, I could post the gory minute details but most likely I'd get barred for eternity if I did.
It isn't comfortable reading, I can recite the sickening details of what it’s like to wade through a rice paddy with body parts floating in it.
I won't go into what remembering it is like.
ManUpstairs
03-30-2005, 09:37 PM
Hey, that is what we call spamming rich_man. We don't like that.
And I'm sure, if we were to hurl sticks and stones at you, some of your bones would be broken. But we won't do that just because you are slightly annoying.
Vagrant, I didn't mean that getting your leg blown off would fade away, but most people learn to live with their disabilities.
-Daniel
Vagrant
03-31-2005, 02:29 AM
As for War, unless you can tell me you have walked the road to hell that war is, do not presume to speak of it.
*sigh*
Why do I see something like this all the time, except on different topics?
Just because I have not experienced the sheer amount of raw emotion that war involves, it does NOT mean I don't know what its effects are.
Flame shield on! On I said! That's scorching heat!
Just because I have not experienced the sheer amount of raw emotion that war involves, it does NOT mean I don't know what its effects are.
Because you cannot, no one who hasn't gone through certain traumatic events have no conception of what it does to someone.
You can feel a limited amount of empathetic pain and anger, have a dim idea of what it does to someone.
But in no way can you understand the deep lifetime of emotional scarring that come from them.
When you watch good men die needlessly, take life from sheer necessity, see the utter chaos, the needless destruction, the absolute useless waste of war.
Then come to me and tell me you know what the true reality of it is.
When you watch a small box holding your child lowered into the cold ground while her mother clings to you and asks why.
Then come to me and say you understand.
When you sit next to a bed and watch someone you love as much as life itself slowly slide into the darkness, suffering the agonies of the thing eating them from the inside out.
Then come to me and tell me you know what soul eating agony you feel.
For until that day, you shall not and cannot not truly know.
Josh_the_Harris
03-31-2005, 07:25 AM
Well said RNE. But then is that as a result of words or sticks and stones. War comes about because world leaders choose not to be peaceful when if kind words were said then war would never happen. :cry:
I'm thinking that the person who made up the saying: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" was probably deaf. this is because deaf people can't see words and are not likely to be hurt by them
That is unless they can lip read, I suppose
mattz1010
03-31-2005, 03:25 PM
Sorry, I should have edited better, that sentence should read.
Unrequited loved is painful enough, but to be actively dismissed or belittled by the one who has your heart in the palm of their hand is far, far worse.
As have I matt, as have I.
Thereby I know the exquisite pain it brings to one heart.
Would you have given your life for them? (only RNE can answer my question)
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