Zombie Apocalypse Discussion

[Lumeh]

No, seriously, this is the discussion of if there were a zombie outbreak, how the world would respond, the economy, government etc. What would you do in a zombie outbreak? How would people survive? How would zombies act?

Because it could happen.


I think that sometime between now, and the end of time we will have a zombie outbreak in the United States.

[Anonymous]

My Theory of Zombie Non-existence
There has been no recorded data from observing a zombie that can be provided. We cannot clarify its existence one way or the other. The existence of a zombie holds just as much as an invisible cube that reveals itself at night and eats all things cube shaped. I will not say that a zombie attack will never happen because I do not know everything, and am not arrogant enough to say I KNOW 100% about anything. I can simply say that since no zombie attack has ever been observed and recorded (credibly), it is reasonable to assume it will never happen.

Blargh.
Im a zombie trikin' u 2 eet ur brainz

[Blaze Zero-Three]

No, seriously, this is the discussion of if there were a zombie outbreak, how the world would respond, the economy, government etc. What would you do in a zombie outbreak? How would people survive? How would zombies act?

Because it could happen.


I think that sometime between now, and the end of time we will have a zombie outbreak in the United States.

How would the world respond? With nukes!!1! That is, if Bush were still president.
What would I do? Sit at home. They can't get into houses.
How would people survive? By not biking and walking on streets.
How would zombies act? Well, most of their brains have decomposed by then, so there wouldn't be a lot of them. For the ones that are still there, they'd act pretty stupid. Like the noobs here at XGen.

EDIT: And what would give you the impression that zombies would be aggressive? I'd think they would just be angry they've been discriminated.

[Kevim]

We may be able to partially bring someone back from the dead at sometime int the future, but I don't thinkt here will ever be a "zombie outbreak", escpecially a potentially dangerous one.

However, if zombies did start to overrun the earth, I would do everything in my power to make the house as impenetrable as possible, grab an array of weapons, and cherish what could be the last moments I have with my family.

[MMC]

Zombies are real, it's not a deal of if... but a deal of when they will strike. I think there have been witnessed attacks that the government covered all the previous attacks in the world up to put us in a false sense of security. Zombies would be stumbling and emitting low pitched groans seeking one thing and one thing alone, flesh. There would be high amounts of casualties and only the said to be paranoid or just plain lucky would survive. Read the Zombie Survival Guide to organize before they rise!

[The Prodigal]

See here gentlemen, zombies are easily disposed of.

All you need, is a phalanx, of about 10-20 men, in a nice orderly fashion, marching forward, impaling all the zombies with their spears and pikes.

Of course, if you're alone, and don't happen to be part of that phalanx, a 2x4 works quite well. Long reach, sluging the zombies...

If defense is your cup of tea, you bar the windows and doors. The only way to leave would be through a high window, in which you would throw molotov ####tails, sprinkle gasolene (and then light it up), cast firaga, or any other mass destroying method you'd so choose. then you could get down and on your merry way.

[Choft]

But....how do we know what the zombies are like? They could be a lot more sophisticated than we think they are, that's if there are really zombies.

[Wolfman]

Hey, it could happen. At any minute, some object of extraterrestrial origin could come hurtling down through our atmosphere. Perhaps this object will be infected with an alien virus or parasite, that will take over the body of whoever is exposed, and turn them into a zombie. Not saying that this will happen, or that it is even likely, but it is a possibility. It's a big universe, and we're probably not alone.

[ferrariguy19997]

Hey, it could happen. At any minute, some object of extraterrestrial origin could come hurtling down through our atmosphere. Perhaps this object will be infected with an alien virus or parasite, that will take over the body of whoever is exposed, and turn them into a zombie. Not saying that this will happen, or that it is even likely, but it is a possibility. It's a big universe, and we're probably not alone.

I'm with you, how would we have zombies and ghosts without REAL Sightings! oh and anyways, celeb pharanomal project isn't real. Trust me.:) Oh yay, if u see little lights in the darkness, they ar orbs, which they say, are the ghost's spirit.

[WaterZoma]

I don't feel this all to possible. The common knowledge of the world today on zombies is common sense and any outbreak would be quarantined. After the outbreak is quarantined, the threat would be eliminated. Almost everyone today would know to shoot a zombie in the head to kill it. The only way for this to become an Apocalypse is for zombies just to pop up everywhere all at one time.

[game-bot]

Depends. Are we talking about slow-ass zombies from the original Dawn of the Dead, or zombies with human-like speed from the remake?

[Freddy]

- How the world would respond, the economy, government etc?
First mass panic, then shock from finding out thier friens and familes are zombies, the fear from becoming infected. The economy will have a slight boom in the armorments, food and drugs areas, but then all of that would quickly fall. Goverments really can't do very much. They're fat 60 year old men who would rather talk to them then fight them. Too bad zombies dont talk back.

- What would you do in a zombie outbreak?
After my panic, shock and fear finaly set in, I'd grab a small automatic pistol and a sharp machete. I'd see if any of my friends are infected. For whoever isn't, we'd band together to protect oursleves. And of course, we'd always keep moving. Staying in one place is an excelent way to run out of supplies and get surounded.

- How would people survive?
If they're smart they'd band together and keep moving. Take out anything in their way but not sticking around ot clear the lot.

- How would zombies act?
Seeing as their bodies have been decaying I'd image they're pretty slow and stupid. They'd travel together trying to swarm people. They can't feel pain so they'd continue comming even if limbs have been cut or shot off. They just want to feed.

[AssaultRifle]

I have an AK47 in my safe and over 1000 rounds. I'll be fine.

[Hex]

Why are we assuming that zombies want to feed? If they actually are dumb, stupid, and don't feel pain then how do we know they're hungry? When you're hungry, your stomach hurts.

The only need that doesn't require pain to reinforce is sex.

I say that if we ever have zombies, they're go around having sex with everything they see.


I seeeee a moooovieee.

[AssaultRifle]

Why are we assuming that zombies want to feed? If they actually are dumb, stupid, and don't feel pain then how do we know they're hungry? When you're hungry, your stomach hurts.

The only need that doesn't require pain to reinforce is sex.

I say that if we ever have zombies, they're go around having sex with everything they see.


I seeeee a moooovieee.
http://www.ghostdroppings.com/images/photodroppings/porn.jpg

[Woolfenstien]

The only way to leave would be through a high window, in which you would throw molotov ####tails, sprinkle gasolene (and then light it up), cast firaga, or any other mass destroying method you'd so choose.Also, if members of your family are unable to cast black/white magic (Curaga and Life work well), instruct them to use a bomb fragment.

I have an AK47 in my safe and over 1000 rounds. I'll be fine.AK47? Peh. Any weapons that require ammunition won't get you far against the dead.

That being said, I'm sure chejrw could use some of his sources to get us some ingredients for a home-made napalm. It would be better than bleach + sugar, or whatever it is you youngin's throw at the pow-lice.

[gufu1992]

XD omg QFT

Zombies are just dead-alive people. They are basicly people. If they are rooten, only a few would be dangerous - either cause they we're mad when they we're alive, or withbrain damage from rooting... otherwise they'll just be people who tey we're.

[Woolfenstien]

XD omg QFT

Zombies are just dead-alive people. They are basicly people. If they are rooten, only a few would be dangerous - either cause they we're mad when they we're alive, or withbrain damage from rooting... otherwise they'll just be people who tey we're.Fail, since you didn't quote :>



WAIT GUYS
Let's give them Dell laptops.

'Splosions!

[gufu1992]

Really... what makes you think zombies would eat us, anyway? stereotype...

[Honeycomb]

Lol @ Dead Rising.

I don't think a huge "zombie outbreak" is possible but maybe the chances of it is more likely as we progress into the future with new technology and everything else.

But seriosuly guys, if they came in massive amounts, I'm sure NONE of you would survive. None of you. So stop saying "I would own them, counter strike style!" or anything else like that.

P.S: If you like or played Dead Rising, watch this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfGWeul6U5w

[Vagrant]

Zombies are scientifically impossible. I don't need to go through explaining why (thanks to Xgen crapping out on me), but suffice it to say, a brain must have more functions than just "Eat" and "attack."

[WaterZoma]

Zombies are scientifically impossible. I don't need to go through explaining why (thanks to Xgen crapping out on me), but suffice it to say, a brain must have more functions than just "Eat" and "attack."
We are talking hypothetically. It isn't like someone is actually trying to make this possible.

[Toasterovenmakingtoast]

How would I survive? Take my math text book with me wherever I go and ask the zombie a math question every time I see one. That should kill them.

[zafarat]

I would just go the Winchester.

[gufu1992]

North to alaska!

[Mr. Anderson]

If there was a violent outbreak, I'd do one of two things:
1. GET TO THE CHOPPA!
2. Go to the pub.

Although, in seriousness, I'd get in a group with some weapons like bats, skates, knives, etc. and wait for the Army. Ever seen Shaun of the Dead? The Army would start killing the zombies.

[Mime]

I'm pretty sure that zombie takeover is one of our smallest concerns. They are slow, stupid, they can't handle machines, and a single person could take out at least 20 of them.

The only way they would stand a chance is if they infected 98% of the population overnight.

[Vagrant]

Yeah. Simplest way to survive is to just join a gang of armed people, bringing your own weapon. Considering the ratios that Mime said, it wouldn't take long to bring all the zombies down.

[zafarat]

If there was a violent outbreak, I'd do one of two things:
1. GET TO THE CHOPPA!
2. Go to the pub.

Although, in seriousness, I'd get in a group with some weapons like bats, skates, knives, etc. and wait for the Army. Ever seen Shaun of the Dead? The Army would start killing the zombies.I have, hence my first post. But why skates? Imma rullarblad pats all teh zawmbiez n never get cott cuz i cant trip! I would just run rather than rollerblading, a bike would be better than rollerblading.

[gufu1992]

BTW - why zombiees would be hostile?

[Mr. Anderson]

Ice skates. Those blades aren't exactly dull.

[zafarat]

Ah, I didn't think you were using those and as weapons. I'd probably use a hatchet or some sort of blunt weapon.

[Forsaken_13]

Well I own one of these http://www.charlestonsteelandmetal.com/images/app_crusher.JPG (not the truck) With a bailer attached to it. I would be in that grabbing as many zombies and bailing them as fast as i can. I suppose i would take someone with me to defend all of the hoses and such.

[Freddy]

Man you guys are borring.
"This is scientifically impossible." "We'd easily out number them." "Why would they want to feed on us?"

You guys suck. You gotta put yourself in an RE game.

[Mr. Anderson]

Well, I'd have something like a knife, a bat, and a projectile (even if it was just a paintball gun, it'd stall them a bit).

[Wolfman]

I'd use double scimitars

[theryman]

We are talking hypothetically. It isn't like someone is actually trying to make this possible.
*Hides blueprints*

I would just go the Winchester.
WIN

[Scornic]

I would simply get in a boat, and wait one mile out in the ocean with a satellite TV a bunch of coolers full of food and water, and a cellphone. Solar poweredboat at that.

[gufu1992]

Flamethrower... or flame Tower from Red Alert(grouping zombies+Flame tower=me T3h w!n)

[Robotdeath]

If they are continually decaying, shouldn't they eventually lack the muscle capacity to move?

[Mr. Anderson]

If they are continually decaying, shouldn't they eventually lack the muscle capacity to move?

Damn, stop over-analyzing it. It's a hypothetical situation.

[Lone Wolf]

Forgive me if I disrupted anything, I haven't read the whole topic yet. I want to type this while it's fresh in my head.

I do believe that there will be a "zombie invasion" if you will, when, I don't know, but, it will most likely happen. It will most likely be government-induced (such as a food experiment gone terribly wrong, like Dead Rising) and that it will be tuely convinient, they make it, can't control it, can't stop it.

What would happen? The government would probably retreat to an underground bunker hidden in some mountain in the desert, and wait for years until the world's population kills itself.

What will the normal population do? Most likely they will start WW3 (or 4) on the zombies, and with the attention span of the population, we very well may lose. However, we are an EXTREMELY violent species, so we very well may whoop their behinds!

What would I do? I would probably follow everyone else, since human paranoia will be through the roof and people will shoot first, ask questions never.

What would the zombies act like? Well, I did some research and found this site: http://www.lizaphoenix.com/encyclopedia/zombie.shtml

It has some info on the subject, along with an artist'd picture!:D

This may be very interesting.



I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I thought of a whole lot of stuff. Lets also say the infection, if it is viral, has an incubation period of 3 days.

Ok, taking Wolfman's theory, if a piece of space stuff infected even a small amount of people, lets say 3, it would EASILY spread! Lets say a 5 year old goes and touches the rock, or space stuff, and lets say the infection is spread through blood and saliva, and other bodily fluids, he goes home, and he gets cut.

His mom fixes it up (comes into contact with blood), and he goes to play with the dog, but during play, the bandage comes off, and the dog licks the wound (somewhat common dog behavior) he realizes the wound is uncovered, and he goes to his dad so he could wrap it up again. He does.

So far, four people are infected. The next day comes and the parents both go to work. Overnight, the dad gets the 24 hour flu, and he goes to work the next day, along with his wife, and the babysitter comes. While the parents are at work, the dog bites the babysitter.

Five people now. The dad ends up vommiting during a meeting, covering a total of 3 people (and lets say the virus is that easy to spread) he gets sent home. The mom gets home, and leaves the door open. The dog gets loose.

8 people so far. Now, the dog is out, the kid spreads it at school, the dad's victims end up spreading it, and the dog bites 10 people.

If this cycle continues, in three days, the kid will start to get ghasly sick, leaving 3 days, 72 hours in between first ever infection and the infection of hundreds. The hundreds of all the other people spread it among their families, their families spread it to everyone they come in contact with, it will spread over seas through food cargo, and within a year, you have a global epidemic.

That's all for now. Yes, I know i have no life!

[c00lryguy]

The people who already dead? What are they to us but zombie bait? We pile up dead bodies under a wall up spikes that fall when triggered, that was we can lure the zombies in and kill a group instantly.

[Scornic]

I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I thought of a whole lot of stuff. Lets also say the infection, if it is viral, has an incubation period of 3 days.

Ok, taking Wolfman's theory, if a piece of space stuff infected even a small amount of people, lets say 3, it would EASILY spread! Lets say a 5 year old goes and touches the rock, or space stuff, and lets say the infection is spread through blood and saliva, and other bodily fluids, he goes home, and he gets cut.

His mom fixes it up (comes into contact with blood), and he goes to play with the dog, but during play, the bandage comes off, and the dog licks the wound (somewhat common dog behavior) he realizes the wound is uncovered, and he goes to his dad so he could wrap it up again. He does.

So far, four people are infected. The next day comes and the parents both go to work. Overnight, the dad gets the 24 hour flu, and he goes to work the next day, along with his wife, and the babysitter comes. While the parents are at work, the dog bites the babysitter.

Five people now. The dad ends up vommiting during a meeting, covering a total of 3 people (and lets say the virus is that easy to spread) he gets sent home. The mom gets home, and leaves the door open. The dog gets loose.

8 people so far. Now, the dog is out, the kid spreads it at school, the dad's victims end up spreading it, and the dog bites 10 people.

If this cycle continues, in three days, the kid will start to get ghasly sick, leaving 3 days, 72 hours in between first ever infection and the infection of hundreds. The hundreds of all the other people spread it among their families, their families spread it to everyone they come in contact with, it will spread over seas through food cargo, and within a year, you have a global epidemic.

That's all for now. Yes, I know i have no life!

Very Well thought out. I actually considered buying a years worth of storable foods and water, and not leaving my house if Bird flu was actually real.

[Vagrant]

If they are continually decaying, shouldn't they eventually lack the muscle capacity to move?

There's a lot more technical problems than that:
They're rotting.
The rot would cause them to leak body fluids constantly, which would result in re-death in less than 24 hours.
The rot would also create holes in their lungs, which would make muscle function absolutely impossible because there would be insufficient air absorption into the body.
Brain functions required to eat and attack would allow higher levels of thinking and other effects not associated with zombies -- fear, empathy, consciousness.
Technically, it is impossible to resurrect a cell, let alone an entire organism (excluding religious beliefs). The only thing one can do is clone the organism.
Cartilage between joints would be pretty much gone, making locomotion impossible.
No immune system -- it's long gone. And even if it was working, it would kill the zombie anyways.
The heart certainly isn't functioning which in turn means the brain isn't working, and in turn, the zombie is incapable of moving, assuming it's even still alive.

[Robotdeath]

Unless there's something in the virus/magic that stops/reverses the decaying process and/or heals the body fully or gives it powers of regeneration or render the body so it can only be incapacited by separating all the main limbs from the torso.

But would it still qualify as a zombie if it had powers of regeneration?

[Logic]

Yes because a zombie is a re-animated corpse.

Back on topic: has anyone seen Shaun of the Dead? Yeah, it'd be something like that or better.

[Freddy]

Vag, you're no fun at all.

[Woolfenstien]

Vag, you're no fun at all.
He once turned up to my 5th birthday party and said "Why are you celebrating? It's one year closer to your death."

I still cry myself to sleep ;_;

[Vagrant]

XD Wolfy.

But would it still qualify as a zombie if it had powers of regeneration?Well no, because that implies that its brain is also regenerating, which means it can't act like a zombie. :P

[DarkReality]

I don't know what's more disturbing... the fact that this discussion exists or that some people actually believe zombies can exist without voodoo magic.

Reeeediculous. We've got more important problems. Like rabid koalas.

[gufu1992]

If brain and body would regenerate - the person would just be back into it's original pre-dead state(Including intelegence)

[Lumeh]

Zombie Survival Guide Chapter 1
BY: Lumi

Zombies having been dead for quite some time, are most likely rigid corpses stricken with rigormortis, hardening their limbs and slugging their movements. Although this may slow them down, the limbs of a zombie will have less or more potential to break off, be firmer, and be able to break objects. Zombies would also be likely to have fewer brain cells after being dead for so long, making them semi-sentinent beings, or perhaps pawns of a greater source.

Zombies may have memories of life, most likely remembering how to do a few simple tasks, or remembering where large numbers of people gather. Because of this attribute, you may want to stay away from regularly crowded areas, such as churches or shopping malls. Being semi-sentinent, zombies will feel little or no pain, so ruthlessly attacking non-vital areas won't be a great deal of help unless you are attacking limbs.

Most advanced tasks that require lots of coordination would be eliminated from zombies. Climbing would be one of these, going into the top floor of your home and breaking off your stairs may be a huge help. They still may be able to adapt to tasks such as that after a few days if they keep trying. Your home is your first defense. Barricade yourself in your home only and only if you have enough supplies in there to sustain you and the other residents, if you don't it may be in your best intention to either 1) Go to a deserted building with the supplies 2) Send a group to scavenge food.

If you have the supplies, get to barricading your building. Wood objects would be choice defense, they are easy to set up, and they can be durable, so get to breaking off the legs or tables, wood chairs, and desks, and get to hammering them up. Doors can be used to block windows, but ONLY use doors from less important rooms, that you would not group up and defend. Heavy objects can be used for making sure doors aren't open, a full file cabinent, a cubicle divider, or even a vending machine or bed can stop a door from being forced open, unless broken or torn off.

If you have made your home a defense, you HAVE to find weapons. Your first choice of weapons would obviously be guns, but be sure to find ammo and not to waste it. Only use your ammo for aiming for the head, destroying the brain can kill a zombie. Secondary weapons would be melee weapons, look in kitchens, basements, garages, cellars, or sheds for heavy weapons. Finding a chainsaw or shovel would be a great help in cutting down zombies. Choice weapons of this kind would be sharp, hard, long, painful, or strong weapons.

In the event of a breakin, be sure to kill any zombies by attacking the heads, then attempt to reseal the entries. If you are unable to do so, flee for a windowless room, or a higher story. NEVER go underground unless you have more than one (1) way out, if zombies block one door, it is most likely over. As said before, if you go to a higher story, break off the stairs, only enough so the zombies can get up and you can't, then form a barricade at one room that has windows. Be sure to make a barricade with small holes for you to shoot out of.

The windows, most likely won't be broken into, unless you have a patio with a stairway. If your electric box to the home is outside near the ground, don't get too friendly with electricity, for zombies can attack them. The windows are for shooting out of primarily, but in the event of an emergency, can be jumped out of.

End of chapter 1

[Iruleu]

My solution is to watch and play all the Resident evils, take notes, then use those notes.

[Lone Wolf]

True, but I don't know if they would qualify as the living dead (a zombie) but rather as a person being manipulated by a parasite.

But, they do act like conventional zombies. So they would be good to take notes on to that extent.

[Lumeh]

True, but I don't know if they would qualify as the living dead (a zombie) but rather as a person being manipulated by a parasite.

But, they do act like conventional zombies. So they would be good to take notes on to that extent.
Yes, a controlled body in its natural form would still retain its advanced coordination. So they could do things most zombies couldn't do, like climb, run, use weapons, etc.

And would not have some of the physical characteristics of zombies as well, like the rigormortis thing, or the rotting flesh and body parts.

[Squidude]

http://forums.xgenstudios.com/showthread.php?t=81452

[Lumeh]

http://forums.xgenstudios.com/showthread.php?t=81452
I see this thread as more logical, serious, and in depth than that one.

[Lone Wolf]

I agree.

My bad, about the relevance to zombie/RE enemies.

Lumi, nice guide!

[redwater40]

Zombies are impossible to happen.

A decease that makes all your injuries (like being shot in the head) regenerate, maybe? Yeah, you would still be human.

And who says they want to feed? Its a retarded stereotype of a nonexistant thing. If it were possible I think they would just stand there, since their brain is deterrierated.

[gufu1992]

Lawl?

redwater40 - do you live in NH?

But yes - how will zombies... come true? (unless just "zombiefied" humans)

[Lone Wolf]

Zombies are impossible to happen.

A decease that makes all your injuries (like being shot in the head) regenerate, maybe? Yeah, you would still be human.

And who says they want to feed? Its a retarded stereotype of a nonexistant thing. If it were possible I think they would just stand there, since their brain is deterrierated.

Not necessarily, chances are, since every living thing has an urning to live on, that a zombie would, unknowingly, prevent the deterrieration of critical body parts/functions. Which, even if that weren't the case, just like in Land of The Dead, the zombies may stay alive long enough to begin to evolve.

That would also most likely happen in the event of a disease also, the disease would want to keep the brain, heart, and lungs (asuming they have to have a heart and lungs) from decaying.

[Kravers]

I have a feeling if a Zombie Army formed to kill off the humans, I would just get in my car and go ten miles at a time. Because I heard that it takes a day for a zombie to go a mile.

[.Valhalla.]

If you think about it there really is no reason why a zombie should go slow, they don't have to breath, so they don't have to catch their breath.

[Lone Wolf]

But, if it's a global infestation, I think you'd be better off going to a remote location, like a mountaintop, and biulding a house out of tree trunks. Or you could live in your car for that time. Just a suggestion.

[Kravers]

If you think about it there really is no reason why a zombie should go slow, they don't have to breath, so they don't have to catch their breath.

Ya, but there body is ripped to pieces so badly that they might not be able to go fast anyway.

[.Valhalla.]

Ya, but there body is ripped to pieces so badly that they might not be able to go fast anyway.

Might is the key word in that sentence.


If there was a zombie infestation I would get a boat house. No way for problems then.

[gentoro]

If you think about it there really is no reason why a zombie should go slow, they don't have to breath, so they don't have to catch their breath.


They lack our motor skills due to the decay in the muscles because they're, um, dead.


Might is the key word in that sentence.


If there was a zombie infestation I would get a boat house. No way for problems then.

Supplies? Fuel? You would need to go on land for gas and other supplies (like fishing bait.).

[.Valhalla.]

You realise if you go far enough with this they couldn't exist.

[.sickling.]

What is a Zombie? Zombies are an abdomination created by the virus dubbed "Solanum." Discovered by an anonymous scientist, Solanum is the so-called "zombie-generator."

How does Solanum create zombies? Solanum infects a host only through direct bodily fluidic contact. Simply brushing an open wound over zombie skin will not cause an infection. However, being splattered by the remains of a zombie, say, after the explosion of a grenade, will result in a high chance of an infection. Once inside a host, Solanum attacks the nervous system and overpowers the immune system. From the nervous system, the virus then travels to the brain, where it injects its genetic material straight into the nerve tissue of the brain. The genetic material mutates the brain into a completely different organ, independent of oxygen and other bodily needs. The result is a completely self-sufficient organism. No organs are required for any function.

The Zombie Itself: The zombie is the product of a Solanum-infected human. Completely self-sufficient, the zombie can be killed in only two manners: decomposition or the destruction of the brain. Decomposition, however, is much more difficult than it seems. Solanum, once finished with its infection, emits a repelling toxin. All non-sentient life avoid zombies due to this repellent. However, a few strains of organisms ignore this repellent and continue to feast on Solanum-infected flesh. The eventual decomposition, however, will take the course of several years. Destroying the brain, although difficult, is still much easier than waiting and avoiding.

The zombie is fueled by an unknown desire of hunger. This is still a mystery as the zombie does not need food for its survival. In addition, zombies seem intrested in mostly human meat. They prefer fresh meat than carrion, and will reject stale meat like the ones at the supermarket. Strangely, zombies have shown almost no desire for thirtst.

The intelligence of the zombie is somewhere below that of an insect. Zombies, under no circumstance, have shown any display of logic in any situation. Once, a man stood on one side of a collapsed bridge while all the zombies tumbled off the edge in a futile attempt to reach him.

Where is Solanum found? Solanum is never found in any wild environment, and is neither airborne nor waterborne. There have been no cases of a human contracting Solanum from the wild. The firststrain of Solanum, theoretically, appeared with the first sparks of life. Thankfully, the belief of contracting Solanum from the wild is a proven fallacy.

Can you Survive Solanum? Solanum is 100% fatal in any circumstance, no exceptions. Vaccinations are useless: any dosage results in a full-blown infection. There is no cure. Once infected, ANYTHING dies. However, re-animation only occurs in human hosts. Here is the timeslot for the re-animation of a Solanum-infected human-

Hours 1-6: Swelling and discomfort of the bitten area (if the infection came from a bite wound), slight fever.

Hours 7-10: Intense fever, sweating, vomiting.

Hours 11-15: Pass-out. Most vital processes cease in later hours.

Hours 16-22: Zero brain activity. Heart stoppage along with all other organs.

Hour 23: Re-animation.

Disposal of a Zombie: There are many ways to dispatch a zombie, many of which are impractical or ineffective. The only way to kill a zombie is to destroy the brain. Flame, bludgeon, splitting, anything that destroys the brain will "kill" the zombie. I will discuss some of the numerous options:

Bludgeon
Probably one of the harder methods of disposing a zombie. Few blunt objects can breach the skull, and the few that can usually wear after many uses. For example, the aluminum baseball bat is an excellent choice for a one-time encounter, but are known to bend after extended use. Police batons, with their durable plastic, are good for any encounter, but lack the ability to provide a lethal blow (intended in its design). A sledgehammer is also good for numerous attacks, but it is cumbersome and hard to wield. Failing to hit will result in being thrown off-guard and quickly turned to zombie food. Probably the best bludgeon is the crowbar. With its durable steel design, the pointed edge can smash through the skull much easier than other bludgeons. In addition to its zombie-killing usefulness, the crowbar can also assist you in a practical situation, such as opening a locked door. When zombies rise, grab a crowbar for your bludgeon

Edged
Edged weapons have their advantages and disadvantages. Like bludgeons, few swords can split the skull, and the few that can will wear after extended use. However, decapitation can act as an effective disposal method (note that the severed head can still bite and must still be considered a threat). A hatchet can easily sever a zombie's head, but its limited range allow a zombie to pull your arm in. Foils, fencers and rapiers are almost useless and incredibly difficult to kill a zombie with. The only way to kill a zombie with these pointy objects is to stick the pole through the eye socket and into the brain, then destroy the brain with a swirling motion. This has been accomplished only once, and by a trained professional that quickly met his end by a mob of zombies. Probably the best edged weapon is the Japanese Samurai Katana. The Katana, with its tempered steel, can easily slice through zombie flesh and hold up for many encounters with the undead. Run to your local blade shop and grab the nearest Katana when the dead rise.

Explosive
What could be better than blowing the crap out of your enemies? Not much.

What could be better than blowing the crap out of a zombie? Anything.
The use of a simple fragmentation grenade rarely results in a zombie kill. The zombie will be left struggling with destroyed appendages, but the brain will most likely be unharmed. Avoid all explosive, combustible weaponry.

Fire
Flame is an effective way to remove a zombie from existence. The corpse of the burnt zombie will contain no traces of Solanum and is perfectly safe to handle, as it is nothing but ash. However, like any kind of flesh, zombie meat takes time to burn. During that period of time while it is burning, the zombie will literally become a walking torch, burning everything it touches. Another danger is that fire cannot be controlled. If your stronghold catches on fire because you dropped a Molotov inside, you cannot stop the fire after a certain point. Fire is an effective but risky way to destroy a zombie.

Nuclear
Pointless. Zombies are completely resistant to all forms of attack except those that directly destroy the brain. Nuclear energy will make zombies walking radioactive rods, poisoning everything they touch. It is estimated that a United States 15 mega-ton dirty nuclear bomb will destroy about 20 zombies total, all others becoming intensely radioactive.

Poison
Given that poison has no effect on the undead, disregard blowguns or anything of the sort on the undead.

Guns
Probably one of the most preferrable ways to dispatch a zombie. However, as everybody knows, all weapons need training. A gun takes lots. The common belief is that wielding a gun is as simple as:

1. Put in clip.
2. Pull back on the thing that loads the bullet (####).
3. Pull trigger until ammo is expended.
4. Take clip out.
5. Repeat steps 1-5.

This is a dangerous fallacy. A gun takes much skill to use and aim properly. A civilian without training will likely have trouble hitting a trashcan from 30 feet. Imagine trying to hit something as tiny as the human head from that distance. Even if the person knows how to wield a gun properly, a gun still requires oiling and other neccesities. Sometimes it must be dissassembled. However, despite these drawbacks, a gun can be a deadly zombie killer in the right hands. Once, a woman wielding a U.S. M16A4 carbine dispatched 20 zombies in 10 minutes. Before you rush to your local gun shop and load up with the heaviest, "kickass" weapons, make sure you have sufficient knowledge of the weapon you are going to take and use. Histroy has proven that a well-trained person armed with only a rock has a better chance of survival than a newbie with the latest technological marvel.

[Nerevar]

I know all about the Survival Guide. One of my favorite books.
Anyways, if zombies attacked, I have a MichiGun (lawl) right around the corner. I'd head there to grab guns and ammo. Then I'd head to the party store next door and grab food and such. Then I'd head back to my house, stock the upstairs with any food and drink I could find, try to demolish my staircase with my family and such, and hide out upstairs until the food ran out or if I was rescued. If I couldn't demolish the staircase in time I'd make a sort of "ramp" with doors on the stairs. Since zombies would keep trying to go up, they'd constantly slip down.

[Mr. Anderson]

I know all about the Survival Guide. One of my favorite books.
Anyways, if zombies attacked, I have a MichiGun (lawl) right around the corner. I'd head there to grab guns and ammo. Then I'd head to the party store next door and grab food and such. Then I'd head back to my house, stock the upstairs with any food and drink I could find, try to demolish my staircase with my family and such, and hide out upstairs until the food ran out or if I was rescued. If I couldn't demolish the staircase in time I'd make a sort of "ramp" with doors on the stairs. Since zombies would keep trying to go up, they'd constantly slip down.

I'd do something similar, but I no longer have an upstairs or an attic. I live in a Rancher.
Oh, and why are people scientifically analyzing this? "OMG IT CAN'T HAPPEN!!!" It's a hypothetical situation, not a "ZOMBIES CAN EXIST!" claim.

[.sickling.]

I know all about the Survival Guide. One of my favorite books.
Anyways, if zombies attacked, I have a MichiGun (lawl) right around the corner. I'd head there to grab guns and ammo. Then I'd head to the party store next door and grab food and such. Then I'd head back to my house, stock the upstairs with any food and drink I could find, try to demolish my staircase with my family and such, and hide out upstairs until the food ran out or if I was rescued. If I couldn't demolish the staircase in time I'd make a sort of "ramp" with doors on the stairs. Since zombies would keep trying to go up, they'd constantly slip down.

That book is awesome. It treats zombies so seriously yet they don't exist.

[Lumeh]

I have learned the way of the zombie throughout time, I played almost every well-known zombie game, a ton of zombie movies, and learned of their Starcraft counter parts (DotD anyone?). I have a very adaptable brain, in comparison to some people. If I wanted to, I could write a full fledged survival Guide, and I could start right now.

Zombie Survival Guide (new name soon)
Chapter 2: The Early Outbreak
By: Lumi

In the event of a zombie outburst, the news should take a bit to begin circling around. If it is the fault of a corperation, they will keep it a secret to protect and suits, or neglagent charges, and for the "safety of the people". If you see, or hear any public announcments about zombies, to regect at as impossible immediately. Gather any materials as said before, collect as much food and drink supplies as possible and guard it in a safe, easily escapable area.

If you aren't alone, and with say, three (3) other people, get everybody doing something, a few people on the barricading, and get the rest of the people getting weapons and more supplies. Make your way to any nearby place that has specialized insruments to do powerful tasks most people are too weak to do. If the zombies are far off, go immediately for a shed or tool shed, they usually have powerful metal objects used for doing yard labor. Shovels, hoes, chainsaws, weedeaters, lawnmowers, saws, etc. A shovel, your average sharp object, shovels have broad blades, and a wedged point, very good for bashing a zombie, or jabbing a limb. Chainsaws, very strong power tools used to cut down trees, could easily cut down a zombie.

Weedeaters, if the bladed type, could be a usefull weapon in keeping zombies back. A lawnmower could be used for 3 reasons, 1) To take apart for spare materials, 2) To use as a heavy barricading item, 3) If you remove the guards, this could cut off the feet of any zombies, slowing them down substantially. After clearing out a shed, go for a basement, cellar, or garage, they can hold very powerful materials such as car repair tools, home improvement tools, or some tough blunt objects. Dense, multipurpose items like hammers, pipes or crowbars, could be use as weapons or aid in barricading. Tool boxes are a MUST in survival, wrenches, tire irons, screw drivers, materials, are good for both weaponry and barricading as well.

Then raid for raw metrials in there, garages are often used as workshops, holding any power tools you would need, bunches of wood, and nails. End your supply searches in the regular house, closets, maybe holding sports equipment, like metal bats, golf clubs, or hockey sticks and help a lot, Kitchens are also known for sharp objects, tons of knives, heavy bots and pans, and aswell as more food if you didn't gather as much as possible.

Next is to finish the barricading if your 'team' didn't finish already. Remember that when doing this, use materials you can spare, don't tear off the doors to key rooms. Planks, are choice wood, any heavy objects can be used to reinforce the barricades. If you run out of your godsent planks, start breaking apart desks, chairs, and tables, be sure to break off the legs, they can clutter unecissary room in the barricade, and if you break them off, you can have some easily disposable and durable weapons, and firewood if you need it.

The flat, thick, and strong parts of these wooden pieces of furniture are your barricading materials, take your hammering tool and some nails and put them up right away, in the event of a dresser, it is equally wise to dismantle the drawers, or keep them inside. Dismantling will provide more wood, but keeping them in will provide more durability. If you are barricading, always have a lookout, constantly going around the house, peering out windows and doors, and always, ALWAYS, barricade windows and doors at ground level, where they are easily accessable. And never use too many materials on one barricade, a door nailed to the wall with a filing cabinet next to it can be enough to keep them out.

[.sickling.]

The one, most simple rule in a zombie outbreak:
Don't get bitten.

One more rule of thumb: Avoid powered weapons. Like chainsaws. Why carry around 10 more pounds than just grab a much lighter machete that works just as effectively? In addition, once your 5 pound pack of battery is depleted, that monstrous saw of doom will serve as much protection as a handheld stereo box.

[Lone Wolf]

Thats right, once your powered weapons die, they're useless. And knowing my luck, I'd be surrounded by a horde of them when it happens....

I think the general public, if they were smart, would start to ban together and form an army. Hopefully, an organized one, consisting of people who are trained in firearms, like policemen, and people who are, well, general, who should be equiped with crowbars and other such weapons.

It also may be a good idea to make home-made tanks, made out of large trucks, or maybe numerous cars. These would likely be best used to plow through zombie hordes, and to block off areas for security reasons.

[.sickling.]

A zombie, as you know, has no sense of pain. This allows for a never-ending pushing-force until the muscles literally disintegrate to dust. So, home-made barricades are practically useless against even one zombie.

[Lone Wolf]

Though that is true, it would take time to bust it down. Even if a zombie were to push on the door with never-ending strength and persistence, you could use their lack of intelligence to your advantage. Like, blocking a door from the outside, by putting a car or truck in front of it.

A barricade made by the typical human would consist of stuff blocking the door. To your theory, that isn't enough. And it isn't.
You would need to nail other forms of material (like 2x4 on a door) to connect the door to the larger mass, being a house in this case.
Then persist on blocking it for added support.

[Logic]

once your 5 pound pack of battery is depleted, that monstrous saw of doom will serve as much protection as a handheld stereo box.

Yeah, and once your arms get tired from hacking up the zombies you might as well cut them off since they won't do you any good either; just be extra weight to carry around. >_>

[Whois]

What I would do is take incindery grenades (boxes and boxes) and just chuck them off a army tank (being my fail safe). The burn to nothing but dust. Then when all of them in sight have been burned to the ground I would take a fire truck and use the hose to wet the dust so it turns to mush and then chuck them into the sea.

That's how we'll defeat the brain eaters.

[gufu1992]

then animals inhale and die... then turn into zombies

[Whois]

Use the left over grenades and shoot the remains to space.

[.sickling.]

Zombies don't eat brains. They eat any part of your body they can obtain.
A grenade of any sort rarely results in a one-hit kill.

[Lumeh]

Zombies don't eat brains. They eat any part of your body they can obtain.
A grenade of any sort rarely results in a one-hit kill.
The heat, sound, vibrations, and light from an exlosion would undoubtly attract extra Zeds, and also cause uneeded fires, which draw more attention.

[Lone Wolf]

The best a grenade or any explosive could do is clear a path if you get trapped. But, yeah, they would probably attract more of them, which is not good in any case.

The fires would be unessicary, but could be used to scorch them, maybe, if you could trap them in it.

[Joest]

Make 100+ molotov ####tails.
Get a hell of a lot of very flammable liquid.
Go onto a roof of a building.
Pour liquid on zombies.
Light ####tail.
Throw.
Point and laugh as the zombies BURN!

[Whois]

LOL, they bleep out ####tails.

I would suggest a Katana. Go to work on zombies by slicing there heads off.

[Joest]

Too light. A battle axe would work better.

[gentoro]

Too heavy, plus katanas can Decapitate fairly easily.
Everyone go to Naborr's house, He has seven or so swords.

[gufu1992]

As I said - North to Alaska:
zombie plan (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5wYFxXETT-s)

[XGEN-CRaZeD]

Get a belt, pack it with a bunch of knives, tie it around your waist, so when a zombie comes with range, take one out and stabimifiy it.

[gufu1992]

then they won't die since they are alredy dead or don't feel the pain...

[Whois]

Well how about flaming knives (I love fire!).

[Liokae]

This is why I purchased my Zombie Survival Guide and prepared a hideaway well in advance, as it suggested. I urge everyone here to do the same.

[caniverous toilet]

You're all wrong! Dipsy will save us all!!

Naaw, if you're gonna survive shotgun carnage is the way to go!

[Liokae]

Hmm... by the traditional idea of what a zombie is, a shotgun is actually one of the least effective weapons. You're much better off with a high-powered rifle.

Incidentally, old rimfire cartridges are extremely useful too, as they can ricochet around *inside* the skull, destroying brain tissue.

[Lone Wolf]

This is why I purchased my Zombie Survival Guide and prepared a hideaway well in advance, as it suggested. I urge everyone here to do the same.

I can't buy one.:( Anybody want to share the knowledge?

[.sickling.]

Look at my previous post.

[Lone Wolf]

Zombies don't eat brains. They eat any part of your body they can obtain.
A grenade of any sort rarely results in a one-hit kill.

This post?

[mattz1010]

Make 'em eat the grenade.

[.sickling.]

This post?
No, the REALLY REALLY long one. It's on page 7.

[Lone Wolf]

Ok, I read it. It was really good! But, if there's never been a case of Solanum infecting a human, how could there be a guy who moved to the other side of the bridge while all of the zombies tumbled off, or the case of the guy with the pool cue?:confused:

Great stuff, minor error, or hipocritism though.;)

[.sickling.]

Ok, I read it. It was really good! But, if there's never been a case of Solanum infecting a human, how could there be a guy who moved to the other side of the bridge while all of the zombies tumbled off, or the case of the guy with the pool cue?:confused:

Great stuff, minor error, or hipocritism though.;)
There has never been a recorded case of Solanum infecting a human through natural causes.

[Lone Wolf]

But, if he wrote it in a book, wouldn't it have been recorded, techinically speaking?

I'm just joking around, I do that pretty often.;)

[.sickling.]

You better be. -glares-

[Lone Wolf]

Well, I am.:D

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/375622

I also found a great zombie game! up here ^

[gufu1992]

We're discussing the hipothetical situation not the games...

[SalsatheGeek]

Which would be a whole magnitude worse than you dying in the games...

[.sickling.]

Games and literature are the only places where zombies exist.

[Lone Wolf]

Well the thread was zombie-like, so I put the game on here to liven it up a little. Didn't mean anything by it. Sorry, just figured you people would like to know.;)

It seemed to have worked though, by some bizarre irony.:D

[.sickling.]

Zombies don't like brains... they eat any part of your body they can get a hold of.

[Spectral]

The common knowledge of the world today on zombies is common sense and any outbreak would be quarantined.

Someone explain to me what the hell this is supposed to mean please.

[.sickling.]

Someone explain to me what the hell this is supposed to mean please.

What he's saying is that zombies, if they were real, would be combatted by common sense.

[Spectral]

Well duh, common knowledge = common sense. I doubt common knowledge would be to throw turds at the zombies.

[.sickling.]

Our poop would have special qualities that would make zombies explode... if I am reading the Book of Common Sense correctly...

[Lone Wolf]

The thing about common sense is that it's not really common at all....

[gufu1992]

evereone watched zombie movies...

[Scornic]

Ok I would build a barracade and then shoot the zombies at night, while reinforcing the barracade, looking for survivors, and looking for new weapons during the day.

[Honeycomb]

You guy's are stupid saying that you would get shotguns and kill them all. With all the zombies and psychopaths around, you wouldent even last 12 hours. And where the hell would you find a gun?

[Nerevar]

You guy's are stupid saying that you would get shotguns and kill them all. With all the zombies and psychopaths around, you wouldent even last 12 hours. And where the hell would you find a gun?
Well, for one, everyone in my neighborhood knows one another, so I'm fine there.
Plus, there's a MichiGun (gun store for those of you that don't get it) down the street, so I'm also fine there.

[Honeycomb]

Well, for one, everyone in my neighborhood knows one another, so I'm fine there.
Plus, there's a MichiGun (gun store for those of you that don't get it) down the street, so I'm also fine there.

LMFAO, a gun shop in the middle of the boring suburbs? That's America for ya'.

[game-bot]

Hmm...how fast would you think we'd all be dead if zombies were intelligent?

[.sickling.]

Hmm...how fast would you think we'd all be dead if zombies were intelligent?

Several years.
Shotguns are useless against zombies. Because it takes a head shot to "kill" a zombie, a shotgun would have little chance to breach the skull in a barricade scenario. Sniper rifles are by far the most effective weapon against zombies.

[gufu1992]

You just say that due to "last stand"

[.sickling.]

You just say that due to "last stand"
Do I know you?

[gufu1992]

No...

[.sickling.]

-zombie head flies by- That was me.

[Lone Wolf]

This is odd. After I put the game link here, the game got put on XGen.:o

Sniper for long range, pistol for short, uzi just for fun.

[zafarat]

Or maybe it's because it's an awesome and popular internet flash game.

Think of that, Lone Wolf?

Don't forget to bring some matches and gasoline to burn the zombies' bodies if they can get up after a few body hits.

[Ryan200666]

Ill get my shotgun. Own those #####es. Zombies are not possible since there organs are decomposed and not able to work. They mght live for about 10-15 seconds if they somehow came alive.

[coolguy1351]

Just go to Alaska or something. Zombies would freeze and break in half. Not very hard.

[MMC]

Ill get my shotgun. Own those #####es. Zombies are not possible since there organs are decomposed and not able to work. They mght live for about 10-15 seconds if they somehow came alive.

Um, dude, if they're dead already, why would they need their organs? You need organs to live, not unlive. What an idiot! Gosh!

I would probably just use all my surroundings to survive.

I would go in my treehouse. Once you think about it, it's pretty efficiant(sp?). It's high, so it's safe, I have a thick tree under the house, so it won't get knocked over, and it's awesome 'cause I can climb through the trees in the forest straight to the pawn shop I live by that sells guns and ammo; which is right by a gas station so I could get a car probably, or if I couldn't... just blow some zombies to hell with it.

If I ran out of ammo for the real guns, I would use my bb and airsoft guns. I'm a pretty good shot, so I would shoot 'em in the eye. The bb would bounce around in the skull, destroying the brain.

[Lone Wolf]

Or maybe it's because it's an awesome and popular internet flash game.

Think of that, Lone Wolf?

Don't forget to bring some matches and gasoline to burn the zombies' bodies if they can get up after a few body hits.

I was just pointing that out, I wasn't implying I was the sole reason it got put on XGen.

Did you think of that, Nafarat?

I'm not that arrogant, though nearly everybody seems to think so. >_>

Fire would be good to permanantly dispose of the bodies, not so good when it comes to them being "alive" and still moving around. Then you'd have fireballs walking around, catching everything on fire. Think of a cremator machine, it's over 2000 degrees F in there, and it's concentrated. A fire on a zombie would be lucky if it reached 400 degrees F, if it's out in the open. It takes roughly 15 minutes to cremate somebody, mostly because of the heart, at 2000 degrees, so it may take hours to actually "kill" a zombie with fire.

[zafarat]

I was just pointing that out, I wasn't implying I was the sole reason it got put on XGen.

Did you think of that, Nafarat?

I'm not that arrogant, though nearly everybody seems to think so. >_>

Fire would be good to permanantly dispose of the bodies, not so good when it comes to them being "alive" and still moving around. Then you'd have fireballs walking around, catching everything on fire. Think of a cremator machine, it's over 2000 degrees F in there, and it's concentrated. A fire on a zombie would be lucky if it reached 400 degrees F, if it's out in the open. It takes roughly 15 minutes to cremate somebody, mostly because of the heart, at 2000 degrees, so it may take hours to actually "kill" a zombie with fire.First off who the #### is Nafarat?

Secondly, it's not like zombies are impervious to fire anyways. If they were still alive and wiggling around on the ground I'm sure you could still catch them on fire. You're talking about cremation the only thing that remains are bone fragments, to kill something with fire you only have to damage it's vital organs.

[rpgfan]

We will all be safe in a mall unti lsome dip#### wants to save her poodle and opens the barricade, letting all the zombies in. (Deadrising)

I don't feel this all to possible. The common knowledge of the world today on zombies is common sense and any outbreak would be quarantined. After the outbreak is quarantined, the threat would be eliminated. Almost everyone today would know to shoot a zombie in the head to kill it. The only way for this to become an Apocalypse is for zombies just to pop up everywhere all at one time.

shooting zombies in the head doesent work. A zombie does not need its brain. A zombie will keep on fighting until none of its left. A hand will try to kill you. Other than that I agree. The only zombie type substace that would pose any treat to us is the flood.

[Lone Wolf]

First off who the #### is (Z)afarat?

Secondly, it's not like zombies are impervious to fire anyways. If they were still alive and wiggling around on the ground I'm sure you could still catch them on fire. You're talking about cremation the only thing that remains are bone fragments, to kill something with fire you only have to damage it's vital organs.

There, fixed. :rolleyes:

Yeah, something living gets killed when you destroy vital organs, not a zombie. The only vital organ a zombie needs is the brain. I think it'd take a lot of fire to damage the brain enough to "kill" a zombie.

Have you ever tried to speak or type when your ticked off? I think one minor spelling error is good, considering people are thinking that I think I am so f'ing arrogant that I think I am the sole reason a game got featured on XGen.

[zafarat]

I kinda seemed like an ####### with that comment.

How practical would it be to carry around dozens of gallons of gasoline with you in a zombie outbreak? Assuming you could get any.

[Mr. Anderson]

Axe, gun, explosives. All you'll ever need.

[Lone Wolf]

I kinda seemed like an ####### with that comment.

How practical would it be to carry around dozens of gallons of gasoline with you in a zombie outbreak? Assuming you could get any.

You'd be better off using it to power a convoy of pick up trucks, if anything. Still, assuming you could get any.

[zafarat]

Pickup trucks with pitchforks and plows in the front. If needed you could try to siphon gas out of trucks that aren't being used.

[Lumeh]

Um, dude, if they're dead already, why would they need their organs? You need organs to live, not unlive. What an idiot! Gosh!

I would probably just use all my surroundings to survive.

I would go in my treehouse. Once you think about it, it's pretty efficiant(sp?). It's high, so it's safe, I have a thick tree under the house, so it won't get knocked over, and it's awesome 'cause I can climb through the trees in the forest straight to the pawn shop I live by that sells guns and ammo; which is right by a gas station so I could get a car probably, or if I couldn't... just blow some zombies to hell with it.

If I ran out of ammo for the real guns, I would use my bb and airsoft guns. I'm a pretty good shot, so I would shoot 'em in the eye. The bb would bounce around in the skull, destroying the brain.
Yes, this is a very good way to stay out of reach of zombies, but think of the effects this would have on you.


The zombies would crowd around the tree
Escape would be incredibly hard
If you have no resources in the treehouse, you would quickly run out of resources
Backup could not arrive
The zombies may eventually get you down, but way of breaking the tree, or even the most unlikely climbing.There would also be many phychological effects, such as shock, or a panic attack.

[Mr. Anderson]

Hold up, lumi:

1.If you have enough weapons, you can take down the zombies before they can even get to the tree; and if they climb, well, simple really. You shoot 'em right in the head.
2.You'd obviously BRING resources, you wouldn't do that without any.
3.I don't quite understand the panic attack; in a tree house, you're almost completely safe with enough weapons, and you could bring someone if you would go crazy with only yourself.
4.Backup could be some survivors with grenades, or machine guns to just mow down the zombies and come up with you.
5.You wouldn't be planning on escaping if you went into a tree house, eh?

[MMC]

Hmmmm, you both have good points. I would most likely need someone to help me mow down the zombies. But if everyone around me was undead I would go insane with loneliness.

[Lone Wolf]

Wow... Topic went dead for a while...

You may also use a zombie's habit against them, such as eating people. Someone died? No problem! You throw them into a pit, wait for the zombies to surround and eat. Then, kill them all in one convinient (SP?) package!

Or, you could do the thing I would most likely do.

1) Get people, about 10, not too big, as it can become hard to control.
2) Find two vehicles, preferable large ones, such as station wagons or large pickup trucks.
3) Find a gun/ammo store.
4) Stock up. Be sure to have a well-rounded arsenal, like, don't give everybody shotguns, because then, you'd have to wait until they're right in front of you to shoot.
5) Put crates full of ammo, for all guns, possibly some backup weapons also, in the two vehicles.
6) Chances are, the zombies have formed small groups by now. So, Put a guy in each seat, and the rear.
7) Fight through the horde to a store, and stock up on food.
8) Find a secure location, like a buildin with thick walls, thick doors, and not many windows. The windows are considered weak points for the zombies, as they can bust right through it.
9) Defend the location, and hope for the best.

[MMC]

Hmmmm... Do you think zombies can navigate stairs? If they can't, psh, head up the first flight and mow them down with ease, hop off the roof with a chainsaw in hand and quickly get to a car. Don't have keys? No problem! (It may seem unlikely, but I can hot wire a car) Hot wire! Out of gas? I live by a gas station and have like 4 1/2 full cannisters of gasoline. Get a few supplies at the station and travel. When I know I'm gonna die though... Stick a Molotov in the gas tank and take some with me! I think it's foolproof if I take people with me.

[Nerevar]

If you can get into an apartment or some kind of office building, demolishing the first floor stairs would make you okay.
Crowding might be a problem, though.

[gufu1992]

just wait till you get nuked...

[ccc.money]

Well if some way in the world,a zombie outbreak happend,I'd get my guns out of the gun chest.Then I would probably Install electrical fencing around the house
:D!But if that could not happen,I would simply cover the house with 2x4s and stuff.

[SaintsFury]

listen, if a zombie outbreak were to ever happen, we could band together a band of milita and equip them with watever they acn get their hands on. stand on building, behind barricades in ur house through windows, anywhere you can find that the zombies cant get to. we know that zombies are not sophisticated because, by the time they are dead their brain is useless, do to the fact that their brains have totally decomposed. But, if the zombies did find away to actually enhance their brain somehow, and figure out how to open locks, u would destroy your ladders bring the food and paper airplanes that u can get ur hands on and get to the top of your suburban home. Eventually i understand you would run out of rations, faster depending on the size of your family, like lets say you have a family of 6, pretty much, your screwed. though the way i see it, zombies could not enhance their brains because they are to dumb to start with, they would have no idea of how to get there to enhacne their brains. even so, by the time we have the technology to enhance our brains and bring the dead back to life, i hope im dead. and do any of u know why it is that zombies hunger for flesh and brains? Well, i have 2 theories.

1: eating is the basic human instinct. since they r dead the have no need for water or air beacuse their bodies have decomposed enough that the need no water. since they actually need food for energy (as it is the basic human instict) their first thing they do is eat.

2: they hunger for brains because they have none of their own. its as simple as that.

and maybe even by the time there is any way to bring the dead to life, we will have evovled, and will not need to eat any longer.

[.sickling.]

What is a Zombie? Zombies are an abdomination created by the virus dubbed "Solanum." Discovered by an anonymous scientist, Solanum is the so-called "zombie-generator."

How does Solanum create zombies? Solanum infects a host only through direct bodily fluidic contact. Simply brushing an open wound over zombie skin will not cause an infection. However, being splattered by the remains of a zombie, say, after the explosion of a grenade, will result in a high chance of an infection. Once inside a host, Solanum attacks the nervous system and overpowers the immune system. From the nervous system, the virus then travels to the brain, where it injects its genetic material straight into the nerve tissue of the brain. The genetic material mutates the brain into a completely different organ, independent of oxygen and other bodily needs. The result is a completely self-sufficient organism. No organs are required for any function.

The Zombie Itself: The zombie is the product of a Solanum-infected human. Completely self-sufficient, the zombie can be killed in only two manners: decomposition or the destruction of the brain. Decomposition, however, is much more difficult than it seems. Solanum, once finished with its infection, emits a repelling toxin. All non-sentient life avoid zombies due to this repellent. However, a few strains of organisms ignore this repellent and continue to feast on Solanum-infected flesh. The eventual decomposition, however, will take the course of several years. Destroying the brain, although difficult, is still much easier than waiting and avoiding.

The zombie is fueled by an unknown desire of hunger. This is still a mystery as the zombie does not need food for its survival. In addition, zombies seem intrested in mostly human meat. They prefer fresh meat than carrion, and will reject stale meat like the ones at the supermarket. Strangely, zombies have shown almost no desire for thirtst.

The intelligence of the zombie is somewhere below that of an insect. Zombies, under no circumstance, have shown any display of logic in any situation. Once, a man stood on one side of a collapsed bridge while all the zombies tumbled off the edge in a futile attempt to reach him.

Where is Solanum found? Solanum is never found in any wild environment, and is neither airborne nor waterborne. There have been no cases of a human contracting Solanum from the wild. The first strain of Solanum, theoretically, appeared with the first sparks of life. Thankfully, the belief of contracting Solanum from the wild is impossible.

Can you Survive Solanum? Solanum is 100% fatal in any circumstance, no exceptions. Vaccinations are useless: any dosage results in a full-blown infection. There is no cure. Once infected, ANYTHING dies. However, re-animation only occurs in human hosts. Here is the timeslot for the re-animation of a Solanum-infected human-

Hours 1-6: Swelling and discomfort of the bitten area (if the infection came from a bite wound), slight fever.

Hours 7-10: Intense fever, sweating, vomiting.

Hours 11-15: Pass-out. Most vital processes cease in later hours.

Hours 16-22: Zero brain activity. Heart stoppage along with all other organs.

Hour 23: Re-animation.

Disposal of a Zombie: There are many ways to dispatch a zombie, many of which are impractical or ineffective. The only way to kill a zombie is to destroy the brain. Flame, bludgeon, splitting, anything that destroys the brain will "kill" the zombie. I will discuss some of the numerous options:

Bludgeon
Probably one of the harder methods of disposing a zombie. Few blunt objects can breach the skull, and the few that can usually wear after many uses. For example, the aluminum baseball bat is an excellent choice for a one-time encounter, but are known to bend after extended use. Police batons, with their durable plastic, are good for any encounter, but lack the ability to provide a lethal blow (intended in its design). A sledgehammer is also good for numerous attacks, but it is cumbersome and hard to wield. Failing to hit will result in being thrown off-guard and quickly turned to zombie food. Probably the best bludgeon is the crowbar. With its durable steel design, the pointed edge can smash through the skull much easier than other bludgeons. In addition to its zombie-killing usefulness, the crowbar can also assist you in a practical situation, such as opening a locked door. When zombies rise, grab a crowbar for your bludgeon

Edged
Edged weapons have their advantages and disadvantages. Like bludgeons, few swords can split the skull, and the few that can will wear after extended use. However, decapitation can act as an effective disposal method (note that the severed head can still bite and must still be considered a threat). A hatchet can easily sever a zombie's head, but its limited range allow a zombie to pull your arm in. Foils, fencers and rapiers are almost useless and incredibly difficult to kill a zombie with. The only way to kill a zombie with these pointy objects is to stick the pole through the eye socket and into the brain, then destroy the brain with a swirling motion. This has been accomplished only once, and by a trained professional that quickly met his end by a mob of zombies. Probably the best edged weapon is the Japanese Samurai Katana. The Katana, with its tempered steel, can easily slice through zombie flesh and hold up for many encounters with the undead. Run to your local blade shop and grab the nearest Katana when the dead rise.

Explosive
What could be better than blowing the crap out of your enemies? Not much.

What could be better than blowing the crap out of a zombie? Anything.
The use of a simple fragmentation grenade rarely results in a zombie kill. The zombie will be left struggling with destroyed appendages, but the brain will most likely be unharmed. Avoid all explosive, combustible weaponry.

Fire
Flame is an effective way to remove a zombie from existence. The corpse of the burnt zombie will contain no traces of Solanum and is perfectly safe to handle, as it is nothing but ash. However, like any kind of flesh, zombie meat takes time to burn. During that period of time while it is burning, the zombie will literally become a walking torch, burning everything it touches. Another danger is that fire cannot be controlled. If your stronghold catches on fire because you dropped a Molotov inside, you cannot stop the fire after a certain point. Fire is an effective but risky way to destroy a zombie.

Nuclear
Pointless. Zombies are completely resistant to all forms of attack except those that directly destroy the brain. Nuclear energy will make zombies walking radioactive rods, poisoning everything they touch. It is estimated that a United States 15 mega-ton dirty nuclear bomb will destroy about 20 zombies total, all others becoming intensely radioactive.

Poison
Given that poison has no effect on the undead, disregard blowguns or anything of the sort on the undead.

Guns
Probably one of the most preferrable ways to dispatch a zombie. However, as everybody knows, all weapons need training. A gun takes lots. The common belief is that wielding a gun is as simple as:

1. Put in clip.
2. Pull back on the thing that loads the bullet (####).
3. Pull trigger until ammo is expended.
4. Take clip out.
5. Repeat steps 1-5.

This is a dangerous fallacy. A gun takes much skill to use and aim properly. A civilian without training will likely have trouble hitting a trashcan from 30 feet. Imagine trying to hit something as tiny as the human head from that distance. Even if the person knows how to wield a gun properly, a gun still requires oiling and other neccesities. Sometimes it must be dissassembled. However, despite these drawbacks, a gun can be a deadly zombie killer in the right hands. Once, a woman wielding a U.S. M16A4 carbine dispatched 20 zombies in 10 minutes. Before you rush to your local gun shop and load up with the heaviest, "kickass" weapons, make sure you have sufficient knowledge of the weapon you are going to take and use. Histroy has proven that a well-trained person armed with only a rock has a better chance of survival than a newbie with the latest technological marvel.

Extra Info:
Because zombies lack brain capacity, they are unable to climb.

Zombies cannot jump.

Zombies lack the brain capacity to run.

Obviously, destroying any muscle in a zombie renders it unable to function in that area or body part.

If the zombie brain is damaged, but not destroyed, zombies may suffer the same afflictions as humans, such as paralysis.

Zombies do not prefer brains, contrary to popular myth.

Cutting the limb off of an zombie-bitten extremity has less than 10% chance of success of repelling a Solanum infection.

A zombie head is still fully functional, even after complete disconnection from the rest of the body.

A toothless zombie cannot infect you through a bite.

A land mine cannot destroy a zombie.

Severing the spinal cord of a zombie makes the rest of its body useless.


Quoting myself, because, obviously, none of you know how to combat zombies effectively.

[Mashermat]

then animals inhale and die... then turn into zombies
Animals do-not have the biomass and life sopport system to sustain a zombie infection.
Eg: They just die and don't reanimate.

But if you were trapped somewhere and you set fire to the whole place...
1) It'd be like an oven, with you AND the zombies in.
2) Flaming zombies = Death

But if you could cook them in there...
1) Although zombies have no logic whatsoever, they have basic depth perception, so they aren't going to walk into a wall... But fire is not an sold, a liquid or a gas, it is a mix of energy and ash
They cannot determine between a flaming wall of death and air.
2) What i'm trying to say, set fire to a zombie and let it loose in a zombie infested space it spreads the flames.
3) There maybe some cases where zombies may show some slight sense of danger, like retrieving basic instincts: if something is very hot - don't touch it, this could enable control of their general movement if using Molotov coktails. there has been no recorded case of this however...

[.sickling.]

Animals do-not have the biomass and life sopport system to sustain a zombie infection.
Eg: They just die and don't reanimate.

But if you were trapped somewhere and you set fire to the whole place...
1) It'd be like an oven, with you AND the zombies in.
2) Flaming zombies = Death

But if you could cook them in there...
1) Although zombies have no logic whatsoever, they have basic depth perception, so they aren't going to walk into a wall... But fire is not an sold, a liquid or a gas, it is a mix of energy and ash
They cannot determine between a flaming wall of death and air.
2) What i'm trying to say, set fire to a zombie and let it loose in a zombie infested space it spreads the flames.
3) There maybe some cases where zombies may show some slight sense of danger, like retrieving basic instincts: if something is very hot - don't touch it, this could enable control of their general movement if using Molotov coktails. there has been no recorded case of this however...Wrong. Zombies have no feelings, or any thoughts of that manner. They are completely emotionless and are void of any reaction to pain. They ignore fire completely, and are stupid enough to walk right into it. If they catch flame, they will shamble around with absolutely no reaction whatsoever.

Fire is not a mix of energy and ash, fire is a very basic form of a self-sustained combustion. Ash is not part of fire, it is a product.

[deafman]

But remember a zombie is infact a person who has died being reincarnated so the zombie can look like any normal human. Plus they may obtain supernatural powers or extremely hard to shoot like in 28 days later. Maybe they might be able to hold gun like in AREA 51 where aliens & zombies attack a base which the zombies hold weapons. The zombie may have hunting skills that might be stronger than a human being.

[.sickling.]

But remember a zombie is infact a person who has died being reincarnated so the zombie can look like any normal human. 1. Plus they may obtain supernatural powers or extremely hard to shoot like in 28 days later. 2. Maybe they might be able to hold gun like in AREA 51 where aliens & zombies attack a base which the zombies hold weapons. 3. The zombie may have hunting skills that might be stronger than a human being.


No. A zombie only has the powers that its former living self had. However, since zombies are oblivious to pain, they do not suffer the lactic acid buildup that we humans sometimes have, therefore allowing their muscles to be used indefinitely until the muscle itself finally, literally disintegrates.

No. After infection from the Solanum/Rage virus, zombies lack the cognitive and brain ability to operate any machinery, or even employ the use of logic. The only weapon the zombie has is itself.

Hunting skills? No. A zombie is not "better" than a happy, healthy, intelligent human in any way. Although zombies do possess more acute senses of perception (sight, smell, hearing) their skills or senses do not exceed ours. They are not sight-dependent, meaning that they rely more on smell and hearing to get around and spot prey. This allows them to operate "better" in the dark, but they are hampered compared to us in broad daylight.

[SaintsFury]

wrong deafman, even by the time they r brought back to life their skin and organs and stuff have already partially deteiriorated thus, they would NOT under ANY circumstances look like a human.

have u guys seen dawn of the dead? where the zombies could run? that was stupid. otherwise it was a kickass movie.

[MMC]

wrong deafman, even by the time they r brought back to life their skin and organs and stuff have already partially deteiriorated thus, they would NOT under ANY circumstances look like a human.

Wrong. They are human, just reanimated. From a long distance they would look exactly like a human. From a distance they would look almost exactly like a human, except for paler skin. From a short distance they would look like a human except for minor details, Pale skin, no pupils, or maybe perhaps wounded. Plus, one that has recently been bitten and reanimated was only dead for 23 hours, not that much time to have deteiriorated that much, eh? I'm just saying, it's living-zombie look ratio is mostly determined by, amount of time dead, number of bites, and where the bites are placed.

[Joest]

I know a fun way to deal with the undead.

1. Load up on supplies just in case. A few weeks of food, water, weapons, ammo...
2. Climb up on a sufficiently tall concrete structure.
3. Lure the zombies in.
4. Get a group of 10+ zombies underneath you.
5. Light up a Molotov ####tail.
6. Throw onto the zombies and watch them burn.
7. As this might not kill them use all of the weapons and ammo you previously stocked up on and use that to finish them off.

[.sickling.]

Wrong. They are human, just reanimated. From a long distance they would look exactly like a human. From a distance they would look almost exactly like a human, except for paler skin. From a short distance they would look like a human except for minor details, Pale skin, no pupils, or maybe perhaps wounded. Plus, one that has recently been bitten and reanimated was only dead for 23 hours, not that much time to have deteiriorated that much, eh? I'm just saying, it's living-zombie look ratio is mostly determined by, amount of time dead, number of bites, and where the bites are placed.

A freshly created zombie has no acute differences between a human. The only differences are the characteristic limping, rolled-up eyes, and hellish moan. A zombie has to be existent for months until it achieves that "decayed," grayish-flesh look.

[Liokae]

Several years.
Shotguns are useless against zombies. Because it takes a head shot to "kill" a zombie, a shotgun would have little chance to breach the skull in a barricade scenario. Sniper rifles are by far the most effective weapon against zombies.

Only if *partialy* destroying brain mass is an effective kill. By most accepted standards, a standard rifle with rimfire cartridges is best.

[SaintsFury]

ok master monkey cheif. u got me there but, have u considered that they would make sounds? you would be able to tell if they were dead or not. lets say i was infected. i was 10 feet away from u. u would be able to tell i was a zombie because of the way i acted. if i were not infected i would call for help or assistance in something. the manurisms that the zombies make differ from our own. they may limp when they walk, they may moan.

[.sickling.]

Only if *partialy* destroying brain mass is an effective kill. By most accepted standards, a standard rifle with rimfire cartridges is best.

For the discerning civilian without access to military or high-grade weaponry, yes. For maximum efficiency, no.

[Liokae]

For maximum efficiency, yes. A standard rimfire cartridge has a much higher chance of destroying the majority of brain mass than a sniper shot does. Rimfires have a tendency to richochet once inside the skull; sniper shots are virtually always straight blow-through.

[MMC]

ok master monkey cheif. u got me there but, have u considered that they would make sounds? you would be able to tell if they were dead or not. lets say i was infected. i was 10 feet away from u. u would be able to tell i was a zombie because of the way i acted. if i were not infected i would call for help or assistance in something. the manurisms that the zombies make differ from our own. they may limp when they walk, they may moan.

Not in early stages of the attack. Before it was broadcast on television about that stuff, anyone could mistake you for someone that is just in deep pain and needs medical attention. This is how the virus would spread; Limping man on street, he's moaning and hurt. Some guy drives over and asks whats wrong... and before you know it there's a freaking army of these undead creatures urging for fresh succulent flesh! Simple as that.

[.sickling.]

For maximum efficiency, yes. A standard rimfire cartridge has a much higher chance of destroying the majority of brain mass than a sniper shot does. Rimfires have a tendency to richochet once inside the skull; sniper shots are virtually always straight blow-through.

Which destroys the brain.

[MMC]

Not entirely. There's a chance of survival from the zombie. Well, maybe. It depends on distance, caliper, and aim.

[.sickling.]

Not entirely. There's a chance of survival from the zombie. Well, maybe. It depends on distance, caliper, and aim.


If a serrated, partially seperated bullet tears through the fleshy bits of your brain, wouldn't you think that any brain, even that of stone, would be obliterated?

[MMC]

Again, it all depends on caliper, distance, and aim. Plus, most sniper rifle's rounds would go directly through the head, not stay long enough to fully obliterate it. Point out a rifle that would stay lodged in the skull if I'm wrong.

[rpgfan]

I don't feel this all to possible. The common knowledge of the world today on zombies is common sense and any outbreak would be quarantined. After the outbreak is quarantined, the threat would be eliminated. Almost everyone today would know to shoot a zombie in the head to kill it. The only way for this to become an Apocalypse is for zombies just to pop up everywhere all at one time.

Wrong! Zombies are all but indistructibe. You would have to completely vaporize a zombie to kill it. Even if there were only the hand left it would fight you. It would be impossible to kill them all. BUUUUT, zombies are incredibly slow and stupid, and a quarintine would starve them of food and kill them all. Theyre stupid beacause they hardly ever if at all use thir brain. Its more like a nervous system through the entire body, than one control room (brain). Thats why they are so stupid.

[Vagrant]

For maximum efficiency, yes. A standard rimfire cartridge has a much higher chance of destroying the majority of brain mass than a sniper shot does. Rimfires have a tendency to richochet once inside the skull; sniper shots are virtually always straight blow-through.

Although, really, in the case of a zombie, you want to shatter the spine, not so much the brain. A good sniper would sever the brain stem in a single shot, which would be a shot horizontal from the nose bridge.

And shotguns would be an effective zombie killer. At a close range, they could literally rip limbs off and blow holes through organic matter. That's an effective killer.

However, to kill zombies, the best method would be trapping. A land mine and a doll of a human would easily trick a zombie into attacking.

Wrong! Zombies are all but indistructibe. You would have to completely vaporize a zombie to kill it.Inaccurate. Severing the spine or the neck would kill a zombie. Bodies don't move without an electrical signal.


I would expect the best improvised weapon would be a baseball bat straight to the head. Sledges are hard to wield, but bats are quite perfect for heavy damage. That is, if you don't light them on fire. I would expect rotting matter to light quite well.

[.sickling.]

Although, really, in the case of a zombie, you want to shatter the spine, not so much the brain. A good sniper would sever the brain stem in a single shot, which would be a shot horizontal from the nose bridge.

And shotguns would be an effective zombie killer. At a close range, they could literally rip limbs off and blow holes through organic matter. That's an effective killer.

However, to kill zombies, the best method would be trapping. A land mine and a doll of a human would easily trick a zombie into attacking.

Inaccurate. Severing the spine or the neck would kill a zombie. Bodies don't move without an electrical signal.


I would expect the best improvised weapon would be a baseball bat straight to the head. Sledges are hard to wield, but bats are quite perfect for heavy damage. That is, if you don't light them on fire. I would expect rotting matter to light quite well.

No, zombies have the ability to tell the living from the dead. They have no interest in non-living material and completely immune to non-living bait.

Not so. When the zombie virus overtakes a human, the brain is transformed into a completely new organ which is independent from a spinal cord and other organs. The way zombies accomplish this feat is still unknown. If a zombie's spinal cord is shattered, it can still barely move (crawl), but most of its abilities will be impaired.

[Licurius]

A zombie acopolapse (However you might spell that word) might be caused by a team of geeks, nerds, goths, and fantasy/ science fiction fans with PhDs. They will scour the graveyards, digging up dead bodies across the globe, attempting numerous times to create a frankienstien, werewolf, or vampire: any mythical creature, basically. In the end, they manage to create an authentic Jason Voorheees: a zombie. They post this amazing triumph over the web, and share numerous other theories and ideas. Pretty soon, all the scientists and fanatics join together in an effort to "evolve" the zombies they have. They sceed, but at a terrible cost: all the researchers and such people involved die at the hands of their extremely angry pet zombies. They managed to grow a developed brain which allowed for speech, enhanced senses, and ultimate strength. Something like the monsters in "Hills have eyes." Exactly like them, perhaps. Anyway, they are things you won't want within 1000 yards of your home. Anyway, these zombies vowed to be the new dominant species of Earth. They transformed their once researchers into zombies, and the zombie population exploded. Any remnant of a dead organism can be transformed into a walking nightmare. Graveyards lay empty across the US, puzzling residents. It was too late when they stormed North Korea's nuclear research faciliteis: A whole chunk of south east Asia was laid to waste. The radiation explosion mutated the deformed zombies even further, giving them more horrendous visages and made them into monsters that was fit for Hell itself. They rapidly swept across the globe, until, suprisingly, The United States of America was the last country standing. They battered the undeads with everything they had, but soon, all but New Jersey was taken. Why? That's because the zombies had one weakness: Garlic and the New Jersey Devil!!! No, just kidding. New Jersey lasted for about 5 months under siege and constant 24/7 assualt from the horrendous reeking dead walking dead. They were literally running on fumes of the moist earthen bodies, until the residents became zombies themselves. A war broke out, until Hell opened up and swallowed the Earth whole, for its dastardy sins of tampering with the dead: with nature. ("Hell", meaning the Sun: The Zombie Wars lasted till the Sunexploded, and By that time, It had spread to Mars. 1 week passes before All traces of walking dead organisms and the Solar System was erased from the universe.
The End!

[.sickling.]

A zombie acopolapse (However you might spell that word) might be caused by a team of geeks, nerds, goths, and fantasy/ science fiction fans with PhDs. They will scour the graveyards, digging up dead bodies across the globe, attempting numerous times to create a frankienstien, werewolf, or vampire: any mythical creature, basically. In the end, they manage to create an authentic Jason Voorheees: a zombie. They post this amazing triumph over the web, and share numerous other theories and ideas. Pretty soon, all the scientists and fanatics join together in an effort to "evolve" the zombies they have. They sceed, but at a terrible cost: all the researchers and such people involved die at the hands of their extremely angry pet zombies. They managed to grow a developed brain which allowed for speech, enhanced senses, and ultimate strength. Something like the monsters in "Hills have eyes." Exactly like them, perhaps. Anyway, they are things you won't want within 1000 yards of your home. Anyway, these zombies vowed to be the new dominant species of Earth. They transformed their once researchers into zombies, and the zombie population exploded. Any remnant of a dead organism can be transformed into a walking nightmare. Graveyards lay empty across the US, puzzling residents. It was too late when they stormed North Korea's nuclear research faciliteis: A whole chunk of south east Asia was laid to waste. The radiation explosion mutated the deformed zombies even further, giving them more horrendous visages and made them into monsters that was fit for Hell itself. They rapidly swept across the globe, until, suprisingly, The United States of America was the last country standing. They battered the undeads with everything they had, but soon, all but New Jersey was taken. Why? That's because the zombies had one weakness: Garlic and the New Jersey Devil!!! No, just kidding. New Jersey lasted for about 5 months under siege and constant 24/7 assualt from the horrendous reeking dead walking dead. They were literally running on fumes of the moist earthen bodies, until the residents became zombies themselves. A war broke out, until Hell opened up and swallowed the Earth whole, for its dastardy sins of tampering with the dead: with nature. ("Hell", meaning the Sun: The Zombie Wars lasted till the Sunexploded, and By that time, It had spread to Mars. 1 week passes before All traces of walking dead organisms and the Solar System was erased from the universe.
The End!
Excuse me, but HUMANS won the Zombie War.

[Sub0]

Sorry if this has been posted, I did not read the 18 pages of this thread...


http://ozort.org/zombie-handbook/index.php#run

[Joest]

No, zombies have the ability to tell the living from the dead. They have no interest in non-living material and completely immune to non-living bait.You have never seen Shaun of the Dead or The Mummy. When acting like a zombie you can fool them into thinking them into thinking that you are a zombie.

[Sub0]

Just to be completely clear, is there no possibly way that zombies, or people with zombie-like characteristics, can be created? Even in theory?

[Joest]

No. It is imposssible.

[Vagrant]

Just to be completely clear, is there no possibly way that zombies, or people with zombie-like characteristics, can be created? Even in theory?

Unless you happen to be Satan with God's powers, no, it's not possible.

[TGNcomics]

"Just to be completely clear, is there no possibly way that zombies, or people with zombie-like characteristics, can be created? Even in theory? "

if zombie movies had never been made then i would agree to it being imposible, however due to the fact that the movies were created i whouldn't put it past some government waither it is ours or some other would perpously create a zombie like ailment.

that being said i do have an elaborate and intracate plan with very open ends with plenty of room for variables. i do consider myself to be a self-made expert on the subject.:rolleyes:

-Twisted mind of tisor

[Mr. Anderson]

"Just to be completely clear, is there no possibly way that zombies, or people with zombie-like characteristics, can be created? Even in theory? "

if zombie movies had never been made then i whould agree to it being imposiable, however due to the fact that th movies were created i whouldn't put it past some government weither it is our or some others whould perpously create a zombie like ailment.

that being said i do have a elaborate and itracate plan with very open end with room for variables. i do consider myself to be a self-made expert on the subject.:rolleyes:

-Twisted mind of tisor

So, you're suggesting a government conspiracy because Zombie Apocalypse movies were made?

Go back to watching TV, I think Teletubbies is on.

[TGNcomics]

So, you're suggesting a government conspiracy because Zombie Apocalypse movies were made?

Go back to watching TV, I think Teletubbies is on.

i'm sugesting that governments would all want to be the first with that kind of power, it is a compleatly arguable theroy. and based on the way the governments all reacted during the race for nuclear technology in the cold war it also has historical merit. if zombie movies hadn't been made then simpley there would be no spark for such an event. i'm not saying it will happen, i'm saying its possible

-twisted mind of Tisor

[Joest]

That kind of power? It is easy to kill hundreds of zombies. An axe or sword would take care of it.

It would also require a country killing millions of people. Phail.

[.sickling.]

You have never seen Shaun of the Dead or The Mummy. When acting like a zombie you can fool them into thinking them into thinking that you are a zombie.

That's just a glorified, media conception of a zombie. The "real" zombie will instantly tell if you are an imposter or an actual zombie. All atempts to "mask" human scents with perfumes or other odors has been proven to be futile.

[Joest]

No. Shaun of the Dead depicted zombies in their truest form.

You CAN fool them. Zombies, after all, are incredibly stupid.

[Licurius]

Aren't the freaks on Hills Have Eyes zombies? They're already dead and everything......

[TGNcomics]

i dont belive you can fool a real zombie like that. it kinda depends on what kind of zombie your looking at. it it were the 28 days later zombies then youd be screwed trying somthing like that. however dawn of the dead zombies might be fooled for a minute or even less.

personaly i think the most likely zombieoutbreak to happen would be along the lines of the 28 days zombies. face it reanimation just isnt possible. however the "rage" drug seems to fit into merit for our modern world.

-twisted mind of tisor

[.sickling.]

No. Shaun of the Dead depicted zombies in their truest form.

You CAN fool them. Zombies, after all, are incredibly stupid.

28 Days Later/28 Weeks Later depicted a more realistic zombie impression than Shaun of the Dead.

[TGNcomics]

28 Days Later/28 Weeks Later depicted a more realistic zombie impression than Shaun of the Dead.

compleatly agreed

[theryman]

Not so. When the zombie virus overtakes a human, the brain is transformed into a completely new organ which is independent from a spinal cord and other organs. The way zombies accomplish this feat is still unknown. If a zombie's spinal cord is shattered, it can still barely move (crawl), but most of its abilities will be impaired.
You are an idiot. The virus would not be able to change the way the body works. The simple fact of the matter is that humans run on electrical impulses sent through bundles of nerves, and a zombie would do the same thing. Now, there is a chance of movement even if the head has been severed by just using reflex impulses from the spinal cord, but they would be largely ineffective, and most likely not sustained.

however due to the fact that the movies were created i whouldn't put it past some government waither it is ours or some other would perpously create a zombie like ailment.
I disagree again. Within 20 years, the ability to make viruses will be in every high school in the country. It will just be part of normal biology class. However, some kid with a tool may figure out, 'hey, if I change this set of bases to this, the virus makes a completely new protein! Cool!' Then enter the fact that there are millions of kids who might do this, and the not too far fetched result is that one of them makes a super virulent virus- I doubt whether it would turn people into zombies, but it may.

[TGNcomics]

I disagree again. Within 20 years, the ability to make viruses will be in every high school in the country. It will just be part of normal biology class. However, some kid with a tool may figure out, 'hey, if I change this set of bases to this, the virus makes a completely new protein! Cool!' Then enter the fact that there are millions of kids who might do this, and the not too far fetched result is that one of them makes a super virulent virus- I doubt whether it would turn people into zombies, but it may.

compleatly agreed at that point. but at the current level of science in this point in time the gov. has a much more likely chance of perposly or accidently creating the virus. in the future however your theory makes just as much since

[ripht|CoC]

28 Days Later/28 Weeks Later depicted a more realistic zombie impression than Shaun of the Dead.

-.-
You did not seriously just say that. -sigh-

You folks are all a bunch of amateurs.

Mmkay, when the outbreak first begins in my area, I'll be taking my crowbar, as many supplies as me and my team can reasonably handle, and I'll be heading to my parents' house. It's a two story house with enough room to maintain a decent number of survivors, and running water until our water tower empties. The staircase to the upstairs and the staircase to the basement run parallel with nothing in between, so by removing the staircase to the second story there will be a twelve foot drop preventing zombies from having any chance of entering the upstairs. There's easy roof access, so with the help of a ladder we can easily get in and out of the house. There's a fenced off area in the backyard that we'll be able to easily fortify, making it much easier to get in and out without difficulty. Once we've got our base of operations set, we'll be moving to the grade school, about a block away, and clearing it out. It's a large brick building that will be very easily fortified, and again easy roof access is ideal. The school will be our place to collect as many survivors as we can. We'll collect supplies and wait.

My village is surrounded by three larger cities, and I anticipate waves from each of them. Once food runs out in these cities, the zombies will move outward looking for more. They should be reasonable spread out by the time they reach us, but we won't be taking any chances.

Once "lunch rush" is over, the first order of business is finding good locations at each corner of the village. We'll clear these out and use them as lookout posts. Then we'll start at the edges of the city and move inward, clearing out every nook and cranny. Then comes the wall. We'll get a crane from one of the nearby shipping yards, and we'll use whatever materials we can find. Cars, lumber, and whatever building materials we can scrounge.

Once the city is secure, we'll begin voluntary hunting parties. We'll be clearing the countryside first, and then the surrounding cities. With a little luck and forethought, we could have the majority of this area cleared within a five years of the start of the outbreak.

[TGNcomics]

-.-
You did not seriously just say that. -sigh-

You folks are all a bunch of amateurs.


hmmm, thats a good well thought out plan, especially if you like to die and take down everyone who follows you as well.

1)your idea with the stairs is a good old classic and was a part of my original plan. the problem is that with 5 or more zombies you once again are compleatly screwed.
2)you also note a water tower, the problem with that is that you wont be the only one useing it. countless others will be using it for their own needs. its better to imediatly fill up as much as you can get and keep those in storage until the water gos out.
3)schools, built to withstand a riot, not a zombie attack. a grade school is typicaly one story with lots of fire exits and windows. not very ideal for zombies. also schools contain lots a school food that when the energy turns off will melt and all those chicken nugets will become decaying balls a disease.
4)those "well spread out waves" from each of those citys they will actually well concintraited from the desire of food, the wave will rach you in at least groups of 1-2hundred and about three groups for each city depending on there size and proximity to surviving citys.
5)moving inwards when clearing zombies might not be a good idea, becaus while your moving inwards they will be moving in on you from behind and in front. its better to find an extreamly secure position that can be excaped from and draw them to you.
6) the wall.... .... ... ... ... .. . wow, im not going to deep into this one but the building of such a wall will have giant holes in easy acces for a zombie and the constuction for it will atract any zombie in a 10 mile radiuse to you little village.
7)do not even try the hunting part thing that is the absolute stupidest thing you can do in a zombie apocolips for the first 2-10 years of such an event the world will be in utter chaos by both survivors and zombies. the best thing to do it to create a anti zombie parimiter and stay alive. begin to clear zombies outside your zone ONLY when you know that the world wide hunger rush has ended.

im doing this not to insult you but for your own safety and for those around you... and i am NOT an amateure

[theryman]

im doing this not to insult you but for your own safety and for those around you... and i am NOT an amateure
So you have experience dealing with zombie uprisings? That is an odd statement to make.

As for me, I would rather go with Riphti's plan- schools can be surprisingly secure.

[TGNcomics]

So you have experience dealing with zombie uprisings? That is an odd statement to make.

As for me, I would rather go with Riphti's plan- schools can be surprisingly secure.

well no, but im in no way an amture in the subject. also the idea of useing schools is good. just not a grade school, which a typicaly nat near as secure as a high school, which is a much better choice.

the rest of his plan i sadly has to say resides extreamly in overconfidence of ones ability over the undead, (most people think that they and three of their friends with shotguns can saftly survive)

[MMC]

Dude, Ripht, I'm so in your group. But seriously, I would collect all my close friends and family. I would set up a caravan of survivors ranging from 5 to 7 in each vehicle. We would travel to Alaska, collecting supplies weapons and anything of use on the way. In Alaska we would stay up until the horde reached northern Aspen. We would then go up farther in Alaska and alert them of the threat. We would continue this cycle and ultimately set up a base in a very cold area. There would be good game and with any luck we could set up a large wall to isolate us from the threat. We would capture animals and leave some wild and some in breeding. Eventually, the zombies would decay enough to leave safely. All of this would be in (luckily) a 5-10 year period of time.

[Syrito]

1)your idea with the stairs is a good old classic and was a part of my original plan. the problem is that with 5 or more zombies you once again are compleatly screwed.
2)you also note a water tower, the problem with that is that you wont be the only one useing it. countless others will be using it for their own needs. its better to imediatly fill up as much as you can get and keep those in storage until the water gos out.
3)schools, built to withstand a riot, not a zombie attack. a grade school is typicaly one story with lots of fire exits and windows. not very ideal for zombies. also schools contain lots a school food that when the energy turns off will melt and all those chicken nugets will become decaying balls a disease.
4)those "well spread out waves" from each of those citys they will actually well concintraited from the desire of food, the wave will rach you in at least groups of 1-2hundred and about three groups for each city depending on there size and proximity to surviving citys.
5)moving inwards when clearing zombies might not be a good idea, becaus while your moving inwards they will be moving in on you from behind and in front. its better to find an extreamly secure position that can be excaped from and draw them to you.
6) the wall.... .... ... ... ... .. . wow, im not going to deep into this one but the building of such a wall will have giant holes in easy acces for a zombie and the constuction for it will atract any zombie in a 10 mile radiuse to you little village.
7)do not even try the hunting part thing that is the absolute stupidest thing you can do in a zombie apocolips for the first 2-10 years of such an event the world will be in utter chaos by both survivors and zombies. the best thing to do it to create a anti zombie parimiter and stay alive. begin to clear zombies outside your zone ONLY when you know that the world wide hunger rush has ended.Congrats, you're an amature!

1) Hardly, if five zombies tried to come up the place where the stairs were, they won't try to form into a large tower and try to climb up and eat you. They'll simply stand on the ground, watching you, and preparing to kill the one that falls. But if they do somehow get up, a hard strike with a crowbar will end up knocking them down, making them harmless until they manage to try again, but then you could repeat the process until you dispatch them. GTFO.

2) Notice how Ripht noted the volume... OH WAIT, HE DIDN'T! You hardly took that into factor, didn't you? You also forgot to note that people don't need to consume water every ten minutes.

3) How is a riot different then a zombie attack? Explain or GTFO. Also, those "chicken nugets" won't turn into "decaying balls a disease" just because you feel like it, you don't need to eat the rotten stuff. Personally, I'd be more worried about rotting zombies.

4) Zombie1:"brb im hungry lol"
Zombie2: "Hmm. I'm feeling rather hungry too."
Zombie1: "where shuld we go???"
Zombie2: "I think we should go look somewhere in the forest or we should look in no specific direction, god knows that we could read a map and spread out in all directions. We might end up in a small town to feast in."
Zombie1: "omg its gay how we cant reed maps!!!!!"
Zombie2: "Indeed."
Zombies aren't going to suddenly charge to Ripht's town, if I could choose, I'd pick the larger cities, or I would cannibalize.

5) I hardly think that the whole "Leeroy Jenkins"-Charge-through-the-zombies alternatives are any better.

6) I'm pretty sure that a man-built wall wouldn't yield large enough holes for a zombie to get through easily, and would be easily bottlenecked.

7) I'd expect Ripht's base would be well established enough by the time that they clear out the local threats in a short amounts, and the hunting is essential, in order to prevent more local threats.

GTFO.
For the third time this post.

[ripht|CoC]

Hee hee... I love it when I don't even have to defend myself.

Syrito, if you ever find yourself in the midwest during a zompocalypse, you'll be welcome in our village.

[Mr. Anderson]

hmmm, thats a good well thought out plan, especially if you like to die and take down everyone who follows you as well.

1)your idea with the stairs is a good old classic and was a part of my original plan. the problem is that with 5 or more zombies you once again are compleatly screwed.
2)you also note a water tower, the problem with that is that you wont be the only one useing it. countless others will be using it for their own needs. its better to imediatly fill up as much as you can get and keep those in storage until the water gos out.
3)schools, built to withstand a riot, not a zombie attack. a grade school is typicaly one story with lots of fire exits and windows. not very ideal for zombies. also schools contain lots a school food that when the energy turns off will melt and all those chicken nugets will become decaying balls a disease.
4)those "well spread out waves" from each of those citys they will actually well concintraited from the desire of food, the wave will rach you in at least groups of 1-2hundred and about three groups for each city depending on there size and proximity to surviving citys.
5)moving inwards when clearing zombies might not be a good idea, becaus while your moving inwards they will be moving in on you from behind and in front. its better to find an extreamly secure position that can be excaped from and draw them to you.
6) the wall.... .... ... ... ... .. . wow, im not going to deep into this one but the building of such a wall will have giant holes in easy acces for a zombie and the constuction for it will atract any zombie in a 10 mile radiuse to you little village.
7)do not even try the hunting part thing that is the absolute stupidest thing you can do in a zombie apocolips for the first 2-10 years of such an event the world will be in utter chaos by both survivors and zombies. the best thing to do it to create a anti zombie parimiter and stay alive. begin to clear zombies outside your zone ONLY when you know that the world wide hunger rush has ended.

im doing this not to insult you but for your own safety and for those around you... and i am NOT an amateure

1: Uh, how? You think the zombies would have the patience and intelligence to stack themselves up? Besides, with weapons, they'd all be dead within a few minutes.

2: Yeah, but how long will a few buckets or a cooler or two last? A hella lot less than a gigantic water tower.

3: Uh, what? It's got huge brick walls and strong windows. Fortify them with chairs and desks, block the entrances, and you are prepared. How is a zombie outbreak any different than a riot? It may be more violent, but that's it.

4: That's pretty much what he said. Waves; large groups coming in.

5: They are moving in on seperate fronts. Corners. No sneaking in from behind.

6: IT'S A BLOODY WALL. HOW THE #### WILL IT HAVE HOLES? There will be debris and supplies for it, you can fill it all in. Done.

7: Uh, what? DON'T clear out the zombies coming in? Wait for them to come to you? I belive that contradicts your own argument.

Good day to you, sir, I hope the zombies use your body as a sex slave and your brain (if you have one) for the finest stew.

[theryman]

Of course, if it is a zombie apocalypse like Cell, we are all basically SOL. Lunch meat. Every one of us.

[h00pla]

Of course, if it is a zombie apocalypse like Cell, we are all basically SOL. Lunch meat. Every one of us.

Were the cell zombies similar to the "zombies" of resident evil 4? (I know they weren't real zombies, they were victims of a parasite) As in they could plan and run and wield weaponry?

I'm not completely sure what I'll do in the event of a zompocalypse. we live in a somewhat remote location that could be somewhat easily defended assuming we have some warning and a little forethought. most of our windows are 15-20 ft up. The big question is do zombies understand stairs? It would seem that a shuffling mindless ebing wouldn't be able to lift it's feet high enough to walk up a flight of stairs.

[theryman]

Were the cell zombies similar to the "zombies" of resident evil 4? (I know they weren't real zombies, they were victims of a parasite) As in they could plan and run and wield weaponry?
Similiar. At first, they were dumb... probably worse than most zombies. But by the second or third day, they were organizing into giant flocks, and were being controlled by one central hive mind. It... was... awful.

Luckily, though, once they were organized, they were less violent, and would retaliate only if attacked. However, they were herding all the humans to places that would turn them into zombies, too.

[Mr. Anderson]

Similiar. At first, they were dumb... probably worse than most zombies. But by the second or third day, they were organizing into giant flocks, and were being controlled by one central hive mind. It... was... awful.

Luckily, though, once they were organized, they were less violent, and would retaliate only if attacked. However, they were herding all the humans to places that would turn them into zombies, too.

I loved Cell. I hope the movie comes out soon.

Yeah, we'd be screwed if that happened. The humans willingly obeying the zombies, unknowingly being led to their zombification, and shunning/killing the "rebels", or "Flock Killers" who try and take a stand.

[theryman]

I loved Cell. I hope the movie comes out soon.

Yeah, we'd be screwed if that happened. The humans willingly obeying the zombies, unknowingly being led to their zombification, and shunning/killing the "rebels", or "Flock Killers" who try and take a stand.
October 2007, I think. It was definitely one of his best recent ones.

[TGNcomics]

Congrats, you're an amature!

1) Hardly, if five zombies tried to come up the place where the stairs were, they won't try to form into a large tower and try to climb up and eat you. They'll simply stand on the ground, watching you, and preparing to kill the one that falls. But if they do somehow get up, a hard strike with a crowbar will end up knocking them down, making them harmless until they manage to try again, but then you could repeat the process until you dispatch them. GTFO.

2) Notice how Ripht noted the volume... OH WAIT, HE DIDN'T! You hardly took that into factor, didn't you? You also forgot to note that people don't need to consume water every ten minutes.

3) How is a riot different then a zombie attack? Explain or GTFO. Also, those "chicken nugets" won't turn into "decaying balls a disease" just because you feel like it, you don't need to eat the rotten stuff. Personally, I'd be more worried about rotting zombies.

4) Zombie1:"brb im hungry lol"
Zombie2: "Hmm. I'm feeling rather hungry too."
Zombie1: "where shuld we go???"
Zombie2: "I think we should go look somewhere in the forest or we should look in no specific direction, god knows that we could read a map and spread out in all directions. We might end up in a small town to feast in."
Zombie1: "omg its gay how we cant reed maps!!!!!"
Zombie2: "Indeed."
Zombies aren't going to suddenly charge to Ripht's town, if I could choose, I'd pick the larger cities, or I would cannibalize.

5) I hardly think that the whole "Leeroy Jenkins"-Charge-through-the-zombies alternatives are any better.

6) I'm pretty sure that a man-built wall wouldn't yield large enough holes for a zombie to get through easily, and would be easily bottlenecked.

7) I'd expect Ripht's base would be well established enough by the time that they clear out the local threats in a short amounts, and the hunting is essential, in order to prevent more local threats.

*sigh* here we go

1)zombies are hunger mad crazed beasts and with enoughe of them (and amournt ranging from 5-10
is a minimun amount) they will climb on top of eachother until they reach you.

2)yea but you also forget the posibility that the water will shut down or some idiot with a shotgun will blow a hole in a pipe and all the water will be contaminated. its better to have a supply already prepared for when that thing gos out.

3)when food rots it crates AIRBORN desieases that can severly damage you. a riot is people and people get bored and move on. zombies will stay there and keep pounding until the get in somehow, more then likly in more then one way, and how whould you fell in a heavy secure building that you baracated all the exets of with desks when they start poring in

4)no zombies arnt organized im saying that when there are hundreds of them and they dont find food in one place, or the other, there going to move on. and more then likely there all going to be moving on in large groups that all think "mayby this way?"

5)i didnt say charge throghe the zombies, i said find a safe place ( a roof or tower) and make a lot of noise to draw them out, then pick them off safely.

6)he said he whould use cars and stuff, generally cars have windows, and when he puts another caar on top of that the windows will shatter and be crunched down but whos to say waither or not they will compleatly, or if he uses a van thats windows dont crunch at all. not to mention a space between cars that of corse will be filled up, but that raises another question, how sturdy are those fillups, and do we have enoughe for all the holes?
those are the questions that get you killed.

7)yes feel free to go out and hunt them, however when your activitys killing the five or six hidden in the woods call zombies from all over to your position lets just hope you can get back in time.

again this is just critisizm and i only do that when i see major death flaws

not a amature

Of course, if it is a zombie apocalypse like Cell, we are all basically SOL. Lunch meat. Every one of us.

ahh hell don't even say that, *shivers* thats just not cool there aint no way we could beat that:(

[MMC]

*sigh* here we go

1)zombies are hunger mad crazed beasts and with enoughe of them (and amournt ranging from 5-10
is a minimun amount) they will climb on top of eachother until they reach you.

2)yea but you also forget the posibility that the water will shut down or some idiot with a shotgun will blow a hole in a pipe and all the water will be contaminated. its better to have a supply already prepared for when that thing gos out.

3)when food rots it crates AIRBORN desieases that can severly damage you. a riot is people and people get bored and move on. zombies will stay there and keep pounding until the get in somehow, more then likly in more then one way, and how whould you fell in a heavy secure building that you baracated all the exets of with desks when they start poring in

4)no zombies arnt organized im saying that when there are hundreds of them and they dont find food in one place, or the other, there going to move on. and more then likely there all going to be moving on in large groups that all think "mayby this way?"

5)i didnt say charge throghe the zombies, i said find a safe place ( a roof or tower) and make a lot of noise to draw them out, then pick them off safely.

6)he said he whould use cars and stuff, generally cars have windows, and when he puts another caar on top of that the windows will shatter and be crunched down but whos to say waither or not they will compleatly, or if he uses a van thats windows dont crunch at all. not to mention a space between cars that of corse will be filled up, but that raises another question, how sturdy are those fillups, and do we have enoughe for all the holes?
those are the questions that get you killed.

7)yes feel free to go out and hunt them, however when your activitys killing the five or six hidden in the woods call zombies from all over to your position lets just hope you can get back in time.

again this is just critisizm and i only do that when i see major death flaws

not a amature

1: If zombies limp like hell and travel at a step a second, do you think they would climb? Niether do I.

2: If someone aims anything at the tower, I'm sure at least I would give him a taste of my cold steel.

3: Can you pound through concrete, desks, or metal? No. Can a heavily decayed corpse do so? Hell no.

4: Zombies don't think. They would stay where they were.

5: What? That's retarded! Why not find a safe place, heavily barricade it, and leave it at that. There is at least a chance of escape when all the zombies aren't crowding aroud your base alone.

6: Have you ever stacked cars? No. Would you know what happens? No.

7: Who said he's going in the woods? The streets would be better and a quick escape.

Not an amatuer on this subject? No he's right. He's a newb.

[Liokae]

TGNcomics is the single worst zombie strategist I've ever seen.

[TGNcomics]

1: If zombies limp like hell and travel at a step a second, do you think they would climb? Niether do I.

2: If someone aims anything at the tower, I'm sure at least I would give him a taste of my cold steel.

3: Can you pound through concrete, desks, or metal? No. Can a heavily decayed corpse do so? Hell no.

4: Zombies don't think. They would stay where they were.

5: What? That's retarded! Why not find a safe place, heavily barricade it, and leave it at that. There is at least a chance of escape when all the zombies aren't crowding aroud your base alone.

6: Have you ever stacked cars? No. Would you know what happens? No.

7: Who said he's going in the woods? The streets would be better and a quick escape.

Not an amatuer on this subject? No he's right. He's a newb.

now this is getting too easy,
1)when i stratagize i assume the worst so i assume 28 days later zombies, that climb and run.

2) according to the original plan he will be in a house or the school and not near the tower, someone could blow it easily.

3)if a corpse was heavily decayed then they wouldnt be zombies the brain decays as one of the firsts things so a zombie couldnt get made from it.

4)no. zombies whould go hunting for food, do you pay attention at all?

5)do you have any brains, this section of the plan was to clear out surrounding zombies not to stay hidden the point of this part is to kill them in the most efficiant way possible.

6)yes, yes i have stacked cars like that and yes i know what happens,

7)he dsaid hes going to clear the surrounding area not go on the roads the surrounding area is more then likly part woods, if your going to be a critic then you have to know what were talking about.

im the best strategist you will ever find outside the military.i find every flaw, every factor and every scinario. don't call me a newb if your a newb, at least the other people raised actuall points, don't talk unless you know something about whats being discussed.

[Liokae]

now this is getting too easy,
1)when i stratagize i assume the worst so i assume 28 days later zombies, that climb and run.

2) according to the original plan he will be in a house or the school and not near the tower, someone could blow it easily.

3)if a corpse was heavily decayed then they wouldnt be zombies the brain decays as one of the firsts things so a zombie couldnt get made from it.

4)no. zombies whould go hunting for food, do you pay attention at all?

5)do you have any brains, this section of the plan was to clear out surrounding zombies not to stay hidden the point of this part is to kill them in the most efficiant way possible.

6)yes, yes i have stacked cars like that and yes i know what happens,

7)he dsaid hes going to clear the surrounding area not go on the roads the surrounding area is more then likly part woods, if your going to be a critic then you have to know what were talking about.

im the best strategist you will ever find outside the military.i find every flaw, every factor and every scinario. don't call me a newb if your a newb, at least the other people raised actuall points, don't talk unless you know something about whats being discussed.

1. Dude, the creatures in 28 days later weren't even zombies. They're still ALIVE.

2. Most water towers are NEAR houses. Hell, my girlfriend has the local water tower literally IN her back yard. Modification is easy enough to extend barricading around the tower itself.

3. You didn't answer his point. Zombies are strong, yes, but not superhumanly so. They're not going to break through concrete.

4. Zombies are dead, and mindless. They'll go after food when they can sense it around, but they're not even animal level intelligence, which is the minimum neccesary to come up with the idea of 'hunt'. You don't get to make up you own ideas of what a zombie is to support your pet idiocies.

5. Hunting out zombies before you've FIRMLy established your base is a poor plan. What you do is create an easily defensible position *before* the zombies start cropping up, and then you stay the **** inside it, killing those that get near it from a distance. Going out and killing zombies is an 'as-needed' thing- when you go out to get food, for instance. Although that shouldn't have to happen for years if you prepared properly. The most 'efficient' way of killing zombies is to make sure you get to stay alive to do it. The safest way of doing that is individual kills without alerting other zombies. Sure, you can get a bunch at once by attracting attention, but there's too many variables that can futz that plan up.

6. And yet stacked cars are still the best 'quick and dirty' barricade you're going to be able to make. Better ones are going to require actual construction, which would fall under preparation, not reaction.

7. Heck, knowing Ripht, his base is more than likely going to be in deep countryside, and the entire surrounding area would be woods. Just more reason not to use your idiotic plan of attracting them over to kill them.

You know, for someone who's billing themselves as a great strategist, you're amazingly poorly educated. You type poorly, your grammar sucks, and you don't even know what 'strategy' is. Everything you've put up so far is *tactics*, and piss-poor ones at that.

[h00pla]

now this is getting too easy,
1)when i stratagize i assume the worst so i assume 28 days later zombies, that climb and run.

2) according to the original plan he will be in a house or the school and not near the tower, someone could blow it easily.

3)if a corpse was heavily decayed then they wouldnt be zombies the brain decays as one of the firsts things so a zombie couldnt get made from it.

4)no. zombies whould go hunting for food, do you pay attention at all?

5)do you have any brains, this section of the plan was to clear out surrounding zombies not to stay hidden the point of this part is to kill them in the most efficiant way possible.

6)yes, yes i have stacked cars like that and yes i know what happens,

7)he dsaid hes going to clear the surrounding area not go on the roads the surrounding area is more then likly part woods, if your going to be a critic then you have to know what were talking about.

im the best strategist you will ever find outside the military.i find every flaw, every factor and every scinario. don't call me a newb if your a newb, at least the other people raised actuall points, don't talk unless you know something about whats being discussed.

1) So not true zombies then?

2)I haven't been following much of the water tower thing, but they're more ubiquitous than you seem to think. Regardless, you should always have water stored away for yourselves in case of anything, zombie or not.

3)You reveal your lack of knowledge of what a zombie is. They decay because they're bodily functions have ceased. Cell upkeep and replacement has ended.

4)It is you who does not pay attention. Zombies have no real sense of hunger except when in the presence of food. Only then do they hunt. Out of sight, out of mind (or what's left of it)

5)Killing the surrounding Zombies would be for retaking the town. This si pretty heavily dependent on your circumstances. How many effective people do you have? how big an area needs clearing? and are the zombies being reinforced from somewhere else? I would do this if the numbers of zombies and area were relatively low. clear out my small town and barricade a larger area for my self. Big enough to start a garden or some way to revitalize my supplies.

6)But then again, what zombie is going to think of (let alone be capable of) crawling through a car?

7)The surrounding area would first consist of the town he's in. Then he might move out into the woods, but that's a risky and ultimately moot proposition at best. There'd be no ppurpose unless you needed a lot of farm area to support the human community.

8)If you are the best stratagist outside of the military, what the frak are you doing outside the military and what the frak are you doing planning for an impossible (leaving the realm of the thread here) scenario?

[Matt]

I loved Cell. I hope the movie comes out soon.

Yeah, we'd be screwed if that happened. The humans willingly obeying the zombies, unknowingly being led to their zombification, and shunning/killing the "rebels", or "Flock Killers" who try and take a stand.
"Cell" was an amazing book. If anything happens I think it'll be like that book.

[SitarFreak]

See here gentlemen, zombies are easily disposed of.

All you need, is a phalanx, of about 10-20 men, in a nice orderly fashion, marching forward, impaling all the zombies with their spears and pikes.

Of course, if you're alone, and don't happen to be part of that phalanx, a 2x4 works quite well. Long reach, sluging the zombies...

If defense is your cup of tea, you bar the windows and doors. The only way to leave would be through a high window, in which you would throw molotov ####tails, sprinkle gasolene (and then light it up), cast firaga, or any other mass destroying method you'd so choose. then you could get down and on your merry way.

No way, do it the Han Chinese way, with numbers.

[MMC]

now this is getting too easy,
1)when i stratagize i assume the worst so i assume 28 days later zombies, that climb and run.

2) according to the original plan he will be in a house or the school and not near the tower, someone could blow it easily.

3)if a corpse was heavily decayed then they wouldnt be zombies the brain decays as one of the firsts things so a zombie couldnt get made from it.

4)no. zombies whould go hunting for food, do you pay attention at all?

5)do you have any brains, this section of the plan was to clear out surrounding zombies not to stay hidden the point of this part is to kill them in the most efficiant way possible.

6)yes, yes i have stacked cars like that and yes i know what happens,

7)he dsaid hes going to clear the surrounding area not go on the roads the surrounding area is more then likly part woods, if your going to be a critic then you have to know what were talking about.

im the best strategist you will ever find outside the military.i find every flaw, every factor and every scinario. don't call me a newb if your a newb, at least the other people raised actuall points, don't talk unless you know something about whats being discussed.

1) If you've even seen that movie, you wouldn't have to be told that they aren't zombies.

2) (See 7)

3) Missed my point. Plus, the brain isn't the first to decay, the whole body decays at once. Maybe if you stopped researching zombies so much you would know that. Don't you think?

4) Yes they would. IF IT WAS NEAR THEM.

5) Do you? That isn't very efficient. Well, unless you consider suicide effiicient.

6) I was talking about in real life, not postal 2 or GTA san andreas.

7) Watertowers aren't in the woods. They're in the city. So it would make sense that he be in the city.

Best strategest? My brother is a better strategest and he gets it all from civilization 3. By the way, how old are you? We'll know if you're lying.

[TGNcomics]

1) If you've even seen that movie, you wouldn't have to be told that they aren't zombies.

2) (See 7)

3) Missed my point. Plus, the brain isn't the first to decay, the whole body decays at once. Maybe if you stopped researching zombies so much you would know that. Don't you think?

4) Yes they would. IF IT WAS NEAR THEM.

5) Do you? That isn't very efficient. Well, unless you consider suicide effiicient.

6) I was talking about in real life, not postal 2 or GTA san andreas.

7) Watertowers aren't in the woods. They're in the city. So it would make sense that he be in the city.

Best strategest? My brother is a better strategest and he gets it all from civilization 3. By the way, how old are you? We'll know if you're lying.
1)yes we all know that, but they are more likely to happen then actual living dead.

2)(no replie no answer)

3)yes the whole body decays at once but diffrent parts decay faster smart guy, the brain decays as one of the quickest.

4)if no food is near them they dont just stand there, they will act as any preditor whould and go looking.

5)running in guns a blazing was his idea, mine was to fortfy a location and pick them off, which sounds more like suicide?

6)yes, in real life.

7)how did you get water towers? he said that he would go out into the woods hunting the zombies and i said not too, were in gods name did water towers come from?!?

civ3 is a good srat game. and im 16, i've had above a college reading level since 4th grade. i'm an actual certified young guines, dispite my horrable phinetic spelling. but thats not what were talking about

p.s. liokea earlier noted tactics, yes i know the diffrence if you dont then your stupid, the original plan that was posted was a stratagy, my critizism of it was tactics, because i fully don't know his town i only know what he tells me it would be impossible for me to create a stratagy for it. i can only point out flaws that one in my position can see just by reading it.

and yes i know my spelling and grammer are horrable, im phinetic, its similer to someone who's dysestic. it means that i spell how i here the words. like all of those kinds of ailments it takes yeas of practice to master yourself over it and it is very freaking hard so i apreciate you not ratting on me for it.

[deafman]

I think all americans would....RUN LIKE LITTLE SISSIES. Go far from the infection. Hopefully everyone would evacute,suposing bush is president and drops a bomb on us like a little retard he is. Then we send highly trained soldiers to stop the zombies from progressing. But then if the virus travels like a vapor or liquid in our air & water, we are screwed ladies and gentlemen. But i'm not really good at how the elements would be combined into each other, so please don't insult I know i'm not educated in zombiology. But I want to know how can anyone support or dissmiss this theory.

[h00pla]

1)yes we all know that, but they are more likely to happen then actual living dead.
And I'm more likely to suddenly turn stuff to gold instead of silver, doesn't make any different

3)yes the whole body decays at once but diffrent parts decay faster smart guy, the brain decays as one of the quickest.
Not if the brain is the one organ with any activity. Since destruction of the brain is needed to stop a zombie it isn't that far-fetched to believe that cell maintainence and replacement still occurs, albeit at a stunted level. Therefore the brain is the last organ to decay

4)if no food is near them they dont just stand there, they will act as any preditor whould and go looking.
They aren't predators. They're scavengers. Mindless scavengers. They might wander around because there is no food, but actual hunting would not take place

5)running in guns a blazing was his idea, mine was to fortfy a location and pick them off, which sounds more like suicide?
No, methodical clearing and fortifying was his idea.

6)yes, in real life.
Tell me the situation you were involved in that invovled stacking vehicles. Seriously, who does that just for fun?

7)how did you get water towers? he said that he would go out into the woods hunting the zombies and i said not too, were in gods name did water towers come from?!?
Water towers came from #2 and the fact that you assumed he'd have to go into the woods to get to it.

civ3 is a good srat game.
I don't believe that civ3 is what I'm going to base all my survival tactics off of in the face of a zombie invasion.
and im 16, i've had above a college reading level since 4th grade. i'm an actual certified young guines, dispite my horrable phinetic spelling. but thats not what were talking about
I have a 13 inch penis. The interweb said it so it must be true. -_-

[TGNcomics]

Not if the brain is the one organ with any activity. Since destruction of the brain is needed to stop a zombie it isn't that far-fetched to believe that cell maintainence and replacement still occurs, albeit at a stunted level. Therefore the brain is the last organ to decay


They aren't predators. They're scavengers. Mindless scavengers. They might wander around because there is no food, but actual hunting would not take place


No, methodical clearing and fortifying was his idea.


Tell me the situation you were involved in that invovled stacking vehicles. Seriously, who does that just for fun?


Water towers came from #2 and the fact that you assumed he'd have to go into the woods to get to it.


I don't believe that civ3 is what I'm going to base all my survival tactics off of in the face of a zombie invasion.

I have a 13 inch penis. The interweb said it so it must be true. -_-

ok the decaying thing is actually a good theroy right there...

scavegers dont kill, zombies kill, that makes zombies preditors

no his idea was to send out serch parties to get killed.

i have an uncle that used to work in a scrap-yard and yes we did it just for fun.

i never said we would have to go in the woods for a water tower. ever

i didn't say civ3 was good for zombie stratagy i just noted that it was a good stratagy game.

no, its 3 inches and you cry to sleep evey night because of it:P (im just teasing)

[h00pla]

ok the decaying thing is actually a good theroy right there...
Of course it is[/ego]

scavegers dont kill, zombies kill, that makes zombies preditors
predators actively search out their food and stalk it. Zombies go after it if it's there. They don't actively seek out food.

no his idea was to send out serch parties to get killed.
Read it again "genius."
Once the city is secure, we'll begin voluntary hunting parties.
Clear out a house, secure it. Clear out the school, secure it. Clear out the town, secure it. It's methodical and a good idea in order to stay alive. just keep working farther and farther while making sure you have a good fallback.

i have an uncle that used to work in a scrap-yard and yes we did it just for fun.
Far more believable that a story about being a "genius" that's incapable of learning how to spell

i never said we would have to go in the woods for a water tower. ever
Yeah, the other guy just mashed it in for convenience.

i didn't say civ3 was good for zombie stratagy i just noted that it was a good stratagy game.

no, its 3 inches and you cry to sleep evey night because of it:P (im just teasing)
I'm at a loss for what I could possibly say that would actually register.

[Liokae]

and yes i know my spelling and grammer are horrable, im phinetic, its similer to someone who's dysestic. it means that i spell how i here the words. like all of those kinds of ailments it takes yeas of practice to master yourself over it and it is very freaking hard so i apreciate you not ratting on me for it.


Then jesus christ almighty are your ears ****ed up, because you're spelling those words NOTHING like what they sound. "Dysestic"? "Yeas"? "Phinetic"? Not to mention that even were that true, it doesn't explain the grammar.

Don't try to bull**** a bull****er, kid. You just don't know how to write, and you're making up a lameass story to cover it. Keep trying to pass yourself off as something an illiterate monkey could tell you're not, and I'm just going to say that you're not allowed to participate in the zombie discussion anymore.

[TGNcomics]

Then jesus christ almighty are your ears ****ed up, because you're spelling those words NOTHING like what they sound. "Dysestic"? "Yeas"? "Phinetic"? Not to mention that even were that true, it doesn't explain the grammar.

Don't try to bull**** a bull****er, kid. You just don't know how to write, and you're making up a lameass story to cover it. Keep trying to pass yourself off as something an illiterate monkey could tell you're not, and I'm just going to say that you're not allowed to participate in the zombie discussion anymore.

dude what the hell is your problem, im not makeing it up. you have no idea how freaking hard it is to write so that it's possible to read it. as long is a can spell almost everything right then i don't care about grammer too much.

what kind of prick makes fun of a kid with a problem that he is activly controlling, do you also steal from babies and trip blind people? thats just not cool man. all im doing is talking about zombies, why the hell do you have to frickin rip on me.

[Liokae]

And what did you say you have again? Because every single phoentic disorder I can find information on is a *speech* disorder.

[TGNcomics]

And what did you say you have again? Because every single phoentic disorder I can find information on is a *speech* disorder.

the disorders range from writeing, reading and speech. phinetic is speech and writing, and its when my subconciouse tells me to write and say things how i see them writen. even if i know its wrong, for the most part im over the speech part, (thoughe i sometimes have to repeat a word 5 or 6 times to get it right).

are we done with this and may now continue on with the zombie dicussion

[h00pla]

the disorders range from writeing, reading and speech. phinetic is speech and writing, and its when my subconciouse tells me to write and say things how i see them writen. even if i know its wrong, for the most part im over the speech part, (thoughe i sometimes have to repeat a word 5 or 6 times to get it right).

are we done with this and may now continue on with the zombie dicussion

But you don't even spell anything phonetically. phonetic spelled phonetically is fonetik. Perhaps you have this disorder along with an lack of education past the 1st grade and never grasped what vowels make what sound.

Or maybe your a zombie getting very lucky while mashing at the keyboard! DUN DUN DUN!

[TGNcomics]

But you don't even spell anything phonetically. phonetic spelled phonetically is fonetik. Perhaps you have this disorder along with an lack of education past the 1st grade and never grasped what vowels make what sound.

Or maybe your a zombie getting very lucky while mashing at the keyboard! DUN DUN DUN!
like i said erlier i've been take classes and doing exercises for 9 years now and im alot better at writing words normaly now, the only times i revert back to my horrable spelling is when im stressed or in a hurry

p.s. lol that would be a lot of luck :)

[zbooyjack]

the only times i revert back to my horrable spelling is when im stressed or in a hurry

So you're stressed or in a hurry all the time, then?

[theryman]

Or maybe your a zombie getting very lucky while mashing at the keyboard! DUN DUN DUN!
Gahh! It's happenning! I'll get the shotgun! Initiate defense plan delta riphti! GOGOGOGO!

[h00pla]

Gahh! It's happenning! I'll get the shotgun! Initiate defense plan delta riphti! GOGOGOGO!

but we don't have the spam covered gerbils, we used them the last time we initiated offensive formation beta lio.

I think we'd be better off with defense plan lambda marie.

[Liokae]

but we don't have the spam covered gerbils, we used them the last time we initiated offensive formation beta lio.

I think we'd be better off with defense plan lambda marie.

Hey! My plans are plenty defensive! Why are you always picking on them? They're perfectly fine!

[h00pla]

when was I picking on them? I said we don't haev the materials for delta riphti because we used them during the last assault using beta lio. beta lio is a great offensive formation but this is astrictly a defensive situation and beta lio is offensive.

[.sickling.]

Grab yourself some Red Bull and you'll be fine.

[Liokae]

when was I picking on them? I said we don't haev the materials for delta riphti because we used them during the last assault using beta lio. beta lio is a great offensive formation but this is astrictly a defensive situation and beta lio is offensive.

... I guess the joke I was trying for was a little too subtle. I was being defensive? Get it? *sigh*

[h00pla]

... I guess the joke I was trying for was a little too subtle. I was being defensive? Get it? *sigh*

I was at work at the time. Now it's blindingly obvious to me. My sense of humor atrophys whiel its here

[canadian patriot]

Alright, I think if there is a zombie outbreak, it'll follow more of a "28 days later" type thing, with the "infected" being still human, but just, well, infected. I mean, common sense here, if you rip off the head of someone, they wouldn't just keep walking, going through their everyday lives, no, they die on the ground. Obviously, this infection would be highly contagious and infectious, most likely genetically engineered, which is possible, but very, very, very, unlikely. Let's explain why:


There can only be so much stuff in a virus. You'd need to make it so that the hearing, smelling, and sight of the host be severely acute. Then, they'd have to make it so that the virus reproduces very very quickly and the incubation period very, very short, or else the quarantine and eradication would be very swift. Next, to make the host continuously pump adrenaline, or else the zombies would be close to harmless. This is also problematic, because the host would get adrenal poisoning after awhile. Lastly, they would need to have a distinction between themselves and the humans, or else the quarantine and eradication would be that much easier.


Simply put, even if it does happen, it would be comparable to a car bomb going off in a crowded area. The zombies would be far from perfect, and would be gunned down easily.

[SaintsFury]

i think a quick run of an m-16 through a group of zombies is a good way to estiguish them !!

[h00pla]

Alright, I think if there is a zombie outbreak, it'll follow more of a "28 days later" type thing, with the "infected" being still human, but just, well, infected.
And thus, not a zombie

Are we trying to use common sense for a zombie? coupled with muscle memory and zombie does not need to use its brain for some functions like biting at what comes near.

[quote]Obviously, this infection would be highly contagious and infectious, most likely genetically engineered, which is possible, but very, very, very, unlikely. Let's explain why:


There can only be so much stuff in a virus. You'd need to make it so that the hearing, smelling, and sight of the host be severely acute. Then, they'd have to make it so that the virus reproduces very very quickly and the incubation period very, very short, or else the quarantine and eradication would be very swift.
False, you'd want a nice long incubatino period to allow for maximum infection before anyone knows what's going on.
Next, to make the host continuously pump adrenaline, or else the zombies would be close to harmless.
A being who feels no pain, remorse, or anything else and wants only to feed isn't harmful?
This is also problematic, because the host would get adrenal poisoning after awhile. Lastly, they would need to have a distinction between themselves and the humans, or else the quarantine and eradication would be that much easier.
-_-We're talking zombies not cold+1 patients


Simply put, even if it does happen, it would be comparable to a car bomb going off in a crowded area. The zombies would be far from perfect, and would be gunned down easily.
See prior reasoning from everyone but TGNcomicz.

[canadian patriot]

And thus, not a zombie

No, it's not undead. But it's far from harmless, and a zombie does not need to be undead to be a zombie. It just can be a rapant thing, that when infected with somthing, it loses it's humanity.

I mean, common sense here, if you rip off the head of someone, they wouldn't just keep walking, going through their everyday lives, no, they die on the ground.

Are we trying to use common sense for a zombie? coupled with muscle memory and zombie does not need to use its brain for some functions like biting at what comes near.

Actually, you need some of your brain to do just that. And I'm using common sense to debunk the zombie apocolypse theory. Which shouldn't be too hard, after all.


False, you'd want a nice long incubatino period to allow for maximum infection before anyone knows what's going on.

Then, it'd be easy. Mass suicide and killing. Once the early symptoms arrive. Then quarantine, etc.

A being who feels no pain, remorse, or anything else and wants only to feed isn't harmful?

If they are slow and lumbering, yes. Besides, even those with no pain could still die, albeit, not as easy.

-_-We're talking zombies not cold+1 patients

Cold patients can run, use weapons and such. But the generic zombies are just slow and lumbering and wants to eat your brains. They are hardly dangerous. I could take a knife, slit it's throat, and gouge it's chest within 10 seconds. They are not completely harmless, I'll give you that, but they could hardly provide an apocolypse.



It's quite impossible, main reason being, the odds of it happening naturally is behemothly low. Maybe if someone genetically engineered it. But even then.

I can't believe I'm argueing over somthing so trivial.

[h00pla]

No, it's not undead. But it's far from harmless, and a zombie does not need to be undead to be a zombie. It just can be a rapant thing, that when infected with somthing, it loses it's humanity.
That's not a zombie. We're discussing how to survive a zombie apocalypse as defined by the Zombie survival guide, not 28 days/weeks later.



Actually, you need some of your brain to do just
that.
You don't need any. I watched a rattle snake missing its head (which had just been cut off) move with the same speed it had while alive to "bite" when it was touched.

And I'm using common sense to debunk the zombie apocolypse theory. Which shouldn't be too hard, after all.
We're not here to debunk the theory. We're here (under the guise of certainty that it will happen) to better perfect our strategies

Then, it'd be easy. Mass suicide and killing. Once the early symptoms arrive. Then quarantine, etc.
What are you talking about? If even more people are infected it's harder to contain it

If they are slow and lumbering, yes. Besides, even those with no pain could still die, albeit, not as easy.
Not when there are millions of them

Cold patients can run, use weapons and such. But the generic zombies are just slow and lumbering and wants to eat your brains. They are hardly dangerous. I could take a knife, slit it's throat, and gouge it's chest within 10 seconds.
Which would do nothing to it.

It's quite impossible, main reason being, the odds of it happening naturally is behemothly low. Maybe if someone genetically engineered it. But even then.
You've entered the thread under the wrong mind set

I can't believe I'm argueing over somthing so trivial.
What did you think we'd be arguing about in here?

[canadian patriot]

I thought someone would agree with me. And, sorry I couldn't be bothered to waste my day reading 24 pages.

Anyways, me, I'd just barricade my door, with everything I could find, board up my windows, grab my grandfather's machete and wait. When day comes, I try to find any more survivors, to help me. Then, I try to find as much food and water as possible, and try to move locations to a police department, in which they'll most likely carry some type of arms. Like pistols and ammunition. They may even have a spare shot gun lying around. If I can't move there, I'd at least grab as much weapons as possible. Then try to survive as long as possible.

[BladeMaster123]

hmm. A good question. As an avid player of Dead Rising for the Xbox 360, my best bet would be to scrounge for anything offensive to a zombie, and smash it with said item. I would then attempt to look for survivors to help create an army to clear a pathway to my local marine corp area or police stations to look for guns to use against the zombies. If the survivors could drive, we would take a military truck and a whole bunch of gas and drive cross country to gas stations and keep refilling until i made it to California, which there I would find other survivors to help create a resistance base somewhere in L.A. If the resistance team found an antidote for the apocalypse, we would send it to whats left of the government so they could duplicate it, somehow amass it all into some giant nuke and drop the nuke in the U.S. and thus save the U.S.A. from the zombie apocalypse. Also, if i had time i would raid the video game stores for video games!!! sweet!!! lol :P

[Joest]

hmm. A good question. As an avid player of Dead Rising for the Xbox 360, my best bet would be to scrounge for anything offensive to a zombie, and smash it with said item.You would need a sufficiently Heavy/Hard/Sharp object.

I think bricks would be a good blunt weapon. Hard, easy to throw, easy to aim...

Either that or Shaun of the Dead it and throw records and flatware at the zombies. They'll back off when I throw my old Pink Floyd records at them.

[deafman]

Hey what happens if the inffection comes through some medicine that people purchased from some other country and some people get infected! it is possible you know

[Vuze]

well, the zombie outbreak if one were to happen would have many things compromising it.

1. World is divided by water , so basically if the out break would happen in europe the goverments would stop all transport from that area and evacuate certain people in certain areas and send them to the USA, or some other uninfected continent/country

2. If it would happen on some island US would just send a squad to kill them all and keep it a total secret

Summary: There are great chances that 40-60% people will survive a massive zombie outbreak, and in some cases the world might not even hear about it, thanks to the naughty US goverment

[Robotdeath]

Then, it'd be easy. Mass suicide and killing. Once the early symptoms arrive. Then quarantine, etc.
Let's say that this virus is both water and air borne and is highly contagious. Now coupled with a long incubation period, then it will do tons of destruction, but can be contained. Say that such a virus is being developed by a country for biological warfare just in case. Now the BWC prohibits such a thing, but you know what they say, "Laws are made to be broken." And countries are usually able to keep these tiny details hidden. But say there was a traitor inside the government that had access to samples of these viruses, and for whatever reason, he gave it to a suicide cult. Now say the suicide cult destributed the samples among it's members, and gave instructions on what to do with it. Instructions that told the members to go to different international and domestic airports, and then it told them to release the pathogens into the air either in the check in area, or in Airport staff rooms, especially the ones for pilots and flight attendents.

How do you quarintine such a thing?

If they are slow and lumbering, yes. Besides, even those with no pain could still die, albeit, not as easy.

Say they aren't slow or even dead. Just infected. They'll probably die.
But they are essentially animals, and animals can move very fast.

[hamza]

i,ve read some news about it on the internet

[Werecat_FTW]

I know what i would do.
i would dig a hole to the center of the earth, then in a "V" like shape, dig up. That would let people who are being chased by zombies run through, while all the zombies just fall in the core and desintigrate!!:D

[Raneman25]

Now the Technical problems,out.A zombie dosn't have to be a dead body.I mean,it could be a mass exorcisom,(from demons,yeah,I'm Christian.)causing us to go aganst each other,thus starting world war 3.Or manulpulated mind by a parasite,Living dead is a nearly impossible theoary.Yeah Defibbulaters work,but the heart of a courpse would not have a chance of restarting.

[Mvbomber]

well if its an airborne pathogen then i would hope that i had not been infected yet and raid a army surplus store and get as many hazmat suits as i could get my hands on and find a nice defensible position and kill any and all zombies that come our way anyone want to come i already found the place =P

[Ember_Wolf]

The zombie virus is neither airborne, waterborne, or anyborne. It cannot be found in nature.

[czhe97]

I'm disappointed that many people still believe in the existence of zombies *sigh*... I say that they wouldn't stand a chance. We have nukes, tanks, APCs, and assualt rifles, etc. On the other hand, if they could utilize everything we use, then that's a whole different story. Flamethrowers would still be extremely effective against them...

[Ember_Wolf]

I'm disappointed that many people still believe in the existence of zombies *sigh*... I say that they wouldn't stand a chance. We have nukes, tanks, APCs, and assualt rifles, etc. On the other hand, if they could utilize everything we use, then that's a whole different story. Flamethrowers would still be extremely effective against them...

Nuclear weaponry is useless against zombies. Use a nuke, then that's 6 zombies down, then the we have to deal with radioactive zombies that contaminate everything they touch.

The only way to kill a zombie is by headshot. We'll need our best marksmen and not our grunts.

Zombies cannot utilize our tools. Their only weapon is their ability to spread the disease through the mouth.

Flamethrowers, in fact, are very, very bad weapons against zombies. Flamethrowers are nearly extinct in the military. Light a zombie on fire, and it will probably be lumbering after you for several minutes, while still on fire. For those several minutes, you have a walking torch chasing you.

[czhe97]

Sure... Whatever... And how would you know anything about zombies? Has there ever been a zombie? Have you ever met a zombie? Society portrays things in a manner that makes it interesting. Remember how they thought the first spaceship would be or the first miniaturized computer? Looks pretty dumb now... We never ever have seen a zombie, so the only way we can tell is to wait.

What I would do is get my hands on a shotgun and rocket launcher and start blowing the snot outta those zombies...

[h00pla]

czhe get out now before I continue campaigning for bans against stupidity. This thread is meant for a serious discussion about a fantasy apocalypse. Go find the zombie survival guide and then come back

Nuclear weaponry is useless against zombies. Use a nuke, then that's 6 zombies down, then the we have to deal with radioactive zombies that contaminate everything they touch.
More than 6 would be killed but the vast majority would be radioactive

The only way to kill a zombie is by headshot. We'll need our best marksmen and not our grunts.
Even grunts can pull off headshots, just not from 1 km with an m16

Zombies cannot utilize our tools. Their only weapon is their ability to spread the disease through the mouth.
It's simply throughout their body, any contact between fluids transfers it

Flamethrowers, in fact, are very, very bad weapons against zombies. Flamethrowers are nearly extinct in the military. Light a zombie on fire, and it will probably be lumbering after you for several minutes, while still on fire. For those several minutes, you have a walking torch chasing you.

But for a bunch in a building a flamethrower woudl work quite nicely with one zombie igniting the one next to it. And the flame thrower isn't nearly extinct it's just evolved, we're now working on a bomb that operates in a manner similar to the stream of fire of a flamethrower, it's going to be used to clear out cave systems