View Full Version : Marijuana (is it bad for you???)
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:04 PM
I am trying to figure out if marijuana is bad for u? and if so are they worse than cigaretts?
Icek05
08-06-2003, 04:10 PM
of course marijuana is worse than cigaretts
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:14 PM
okay i dont do drugs but i know many people that do and pot is not bad for you at all. you can die from cigaretts but there has been no case of someone dying from pot. Sure many people die while there on pot but it's not the pot that kills them
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:19 PM
i agree w/ kevin
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:22 PM
I also you cant kill other people by smoking pot
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:23 PM
yeah u can......it messes w/ ur perception and judgement so u can do something stupid and kill someone or urself
Millions Knives
08-06-2003, 04:24 PM
well, i don't do drugs either, but i know some people, and it doesn't seem that they are dying or anything, but they don't really do anything. They just sit around and get stoned.But I have heard of someone i know who died while smoking pot and driving.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:25 PM
like i said before it's not the pot that kills it's what the person does
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:26 PM
the only bad thing taht marijuana does fo ru is kill brain cells, but it doesnt kill a great amount unles u do it everydayu all day....and there are actualy good things it does
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:30 PM
pot does not kill brain cells. Where you got that idea was a report that was done on chimps what they did is they pumped a closed helmit with the smoke from pot for 5 mins the chimps died and got brain damage because they had no air to breath
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 04:33 PM
let me put it this way, marijuana is like putting an aspirin in dog crap. It's not good, it totally nasty.
Kevinok, smoking pot is unhealthy. Why? because you're putting chemicals in your body that shouldn't be there. Also the smoke is very unhealthy.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:34 PM
any thing you eat or do can be bad for you vag
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:34 PM
smoking pot is jus fine
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:36 PM
well i dont do drugs but i dont think there bad
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 04:38 PM
Why do I even bother? Go ask a frickin health official, or police man. They'd be happy to tell you.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:45 PM
well you havent even tried to prove me wrong vag
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:47 PM
lol he is scared becuas ehe dont wanna get into a huge argument w/ u
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 04:54 PM
I'm not scared, but you're never gonna listen to me kevin.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 04:56 PM
yea how about castle doesnt say stuff for me
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 04:58 PM
what do u mean? "castle doesnt say stuff for me"???? i dont get what u mean
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 04:58 PM
I'm just saying, ask someone with the credentials kevin
kevinok
08-06-2003, 05:02 PM
i have the thing about the report was told to me by an teacher and i have talked to knowledge people
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 05:03 PM
who cares its not proved that its bad or good for u
kevinok
08-06-2003, 05:05 PM
castle shut up and let us talk
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 05:07 PM
why? its getting annoying everyon argue....marijuana isnt bad for u except the tar int he lungs
theryman
08-06-2003, 06:03 PM
tar in ur lungs is bad. there have bben many cases of ppl who smoke marijuana, and die someway or another. some1 had a bulettproof vest and asked his friend to se if it would work pointblank with a shotgun. it didnt. they crash cars, they kill other ppl they are mad at
kevinok
08-06-2003, 06:07 PM
that is not the pot it's just stupid people
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 06:07 PM
yeah but we wanna know if pot kills u...not u killing urself becuase of pot
theryman
08-06-2003, 06:09 PM
the effects are from pot. both are bad, but pot is ILLEGAL.
tiritaka
08-06-2003, 06:13 PM
if marijuana doesn't make anything bad to the user (which i really think that does) it obviously may affect other people like theryman says.
It "turns of" your brain, it was already said that it degenerate and destroy the neurons, it do turn the users addicted, it is mental, but it turns the user dependent......
i don't like to compare it with the cigarretes because the "addicting factor" is diferent (one is chemical and the other is mental) and the effects are diferent, what i can say is: don't do drugs, legalized or not....................
kevinok
08-06-2003, 06:15 PM
the effects are from pot. both are bad, but pot is ILLEGAL.
well it's legal in canada and it's legal in my state
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 06:17 PM
that is why canada is the best ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
kevinok
08-06-2003, 06:23 PM
yea well it's legal where i live
CastleFreak04
08-06-2003, 06:24 PM
where do u live?
theryman
08-06-2003, 06:27 PM
read his location. wat do u expect from a state were arnold shwarzenagger and a stripper are runnin for governer?
kevinok
08-06-2003, 06:36 PM
dont for get porn king larry flint
theryman
08-06-2003, 09:04 PM
lol or all the other average citizens who have an extra 3500 bucks
Freddy
08-06-2003, 09:18 PM
of course pot is bad, any kind of smoke in your lungs is bad for u. they are worse than cigarettes because it effects your brain while cigarettes dont.
Namhet
08-06-2003, 09:39 PM
Pot is not legal in L.A. I've had my dad busted for pot and other drugs, its not legal.
Pot is very bad for you. It has 4x the amounts of harmful chemicals as a cigarette, a blunt has no filter.
And besides.
Studies have proven that smoking pot gives you man boobs.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 09:51 PM
it is legal under state law
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 09:59 PM
Is that a law that says you can just go out and smoke it, or one that has it regulated for only medical use?
kevinok
08-06-2003, 10:13 PM
medical use only but still
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 10:19 PM
so, the people using either have a good reason or a nice/stupid doctor
Namhet
08-06-2003, 10:29 PM
Well medical marijuana is not marijuana, a while back they invented a "high-less" pot that still gave the healing effects.
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 10:31 PM
I thought the high was what you wanted, because it took your mind off the pain
Namhet
08-06-2003, 10:35 PM
Yes, it is the high you wanted, medical marijuana is a load of crap, (in my opinion).
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 10:36 PM
It might be, but I have no experience to further my opnion
kevinok
08-06-2003, 10:37 PM
well some of the stuff they give you is real
Namhet
08-06-2003, 10:49 PM
yes, in some places "real" marijuana is still used.
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 10:50 PM
Like I Said, what good is high-free marijauna, when the high is the magic element that takes your mind off the pain.
Namhet
08-06-2003, 10:52 PM
Its not any good, medical marijuana is a load of crap anyways. But the gov't doesn't want high disabled seniors running around, now do they ? :D
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 10:53 PM
I assume they use it in a reasonable way that they aren't completely spaced out.
tiritaka
08-06-2003, 11:01 PM
you have to be very strong to control the marijuana, otherwise it WILL control you.....
And it doesn't matter if it is legal or not, what matters is that it IS HARMFULL for the human body.......good HEALTH is the objective.........
Besides all that, if only drugs makes you feel happy, your life is crappy and you need a shrink, not drugs......
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 11:03 PM
I agree 100%
kevinok
08-06-2003, 11:05 PM
i dont do drugs but i dont think doing them is a bad thing
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 11:07 PM
Why not? I mean why dont you think doing them is bad.
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 11:13 PM
Comeon kevinok, all the evidence from officials points that it's unhealthy (that's saying it lightly)
tiritaka
08-06-2003, 11:19 PM
don't worry guys, i think he's just feeling the need to disagree to all of us......who knows......
kevinok
08-06-2003, 11:22 PM
no i dont do them because i dont want to but if my friends do them i will let them. I just think they should be legal so that way they can be controiled and trust me if they become legal less people will do them
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 11:24 PM
Making them legal won't help anyone except the thrill seekers who only do it for the risk of being caught, but don't forget it is addictive.
tiritaka
08-06-2003, 11:27 PM
i don't see how making it legal could help......
if it is legally the number of people that would start to do drugs that didn't used to do because it was ilegal won't be that lower then the number of people that uses only because it is illegal, besides, i don't think that much people would stop using just because it is legal.....
if someone doesn't understand, i'm sorry, it is kind of confusing.....
Vagrant
08-06-2003, 11:31 PM
It's like this, because if it was legal, more ppl would use it because no risk from the law
kevinok
08-06-2003, 11:34 PM
well i think it being legal would help and heres why. Okay first you can control it so and keep it clean so then it's not laced with anything. Second the goverment could make money off it. Third you can control how much. You would also stop gangs that deal drugs thus less deaths. Also I know alot of people that do drugs just to be a rebel and if it was legal then they wont be a rebel and then they wont do drugs.
tiritaka
08-06-2003, 11:48 PM
first you can control it so and keep it clean so then it's not laced with anything. Second the goverment could make money off it. Third you can control how much. You would also stop gangs that deal drugs thus less deaths. Also I know alot of people that do drugs just to be a rebel and if it was legal then they wont be a rebel and then they wont do drugs.
in theory the gov could control, but that's really hard. How you can control "how much"?The gangs would stop dealing MARIJUANA, the real bad stuff would continue, so the death drop wouldn't be that high.The "rebel" people you know are probably so addicted to it that they wouldn't stop just beacuse it is legal, but they could look for another thing that is ilegal, that would make things worse.......
the only thing that could be good is the money the gov could make in taxes, but it's still not worthy........too many disadvantages, too few advantages.....
kevinok
08-06-2003, 11:52 PM
well thats just my idea
K_and_H
08-06-2003, 11:56 PM
I feel its sort of like the situation we had with alchol, if we ban, people will sneak it in, and if its legal, people will just keep using it.
kevinok
08-06-2003, 11:58 PM
i just think you could make things safer if it were legal
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 12:33 AM
With prohibition, ppl took advantage cause they could earn money, but there were fewer ppl drinking... so it's a 50 50
kevinok
08-07-2003, 12:40 AM
well thats how the kenedeys made there money
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 02:45 AM
yes they did....i know that for a fact....well i dont but my mom was personal friends w/ their family...and she said that its true
Namhet
08-07-2003, 04:33 AM
Yes... making drugs legal would help the gov't control the quality, which would make it much safer.
But drugs are not a good thing. Give me 3 good reasons to do drugs that i can't refute, give another example where that reason is false, or laugh at you.
Galactus
08-07-2003, 04:58 AM
Umm...anyways, back on the original question so I can finally throw my two cents in here...
I don't see how there can be any argument here as to whether or not marijuana is bad for you -- it is. Not only does it affect your memory, it also does more damage to your lungs than a cigarette ever will. It causes brain damage like any smoke would, because when you breath in the smoke, you are lowering the amount of oxygen that gets into your bloodstream -- oxygen which is needed to keep your organs alive.
Other problems arise with use as well. Most everyone I know that smokes pot is also a drinker. They enjoy getting 'blitzed' (high and drunk at the same time). Doing both things at the same time can make people feel very sick, and further decreases their ability to function.
And the fact that pot messes with folks' attention span and depth perception is also hazardous. Ready for a true story? I used to know this girl named Katie. One night, she and one of her friends were high, and possibly drunk. They decided that they wanted to cross a local freeway, and she got hit by a car. She died. We all know that no one in their right conscience would put themself into that situation, so how can anyone justify saying that it's not the pot, it's what the people do while they're high? That statement is only half true. In any circumstance, most of what happens is what's based on what someone decides to do. But people wouldn't decide that they need to take unneccessary risks or put themselves into situations where they or others can get hurt if it weren't for the pot.
So, uh.....thanks for your time?
Namhet
08-07-2003, 05:01 AM
Exactly. You posted what i was too lazy to write myself.
I hear a lot of dirty hippies smoke weed.
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:10 AM
I wouldnt doubt it
The First
08-07-2003, 10:17 AM
I don't even see why this topic was made.. pot is obviously bad for your health what else could you think?
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:25 AM
Youd be suprised at what some people think.
The First
08-07-2003, 10:28 AM
Yes I have read most of the topic, but thanks for the information
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:31 AM
Your welcome 8)
Namhet
08-07-2003, 05:41 PM
And what the hell, may i ask you, is wrong with hippies?
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 05:42 PM
exerything! i hate hippies
kevinok
08-07-2003, 05:46 PM
exerything! i hate hippies
i would do something but im a hippie
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 05:48 PM
your a hippie? and u dont do drugs...what kind of hippie r u
Namhet
08-07-2003, 05:48 PM
Well? what EXACTLY do you find so bad about hippies?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 05:53 PM
your a hippie? and u dont do drugs...what kind of hippie r u
you dont have to do drugs to be a hippie
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 05:58 PM
oic...and ur in la....so how r drugs not illegal in LA?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 06:32 PM
pot is legal in this state for meditcal use only
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 06:51 PM
hey castle your confusing a few things and using pre-made concepts to "judge" kevinok without knowing what you're talking about......
as kevin said, you don't have to do drugs to be a hippie, i don't know how to explain, but the hippie movement are "diferent" from the "others" because they diferent beliefs and diferent ways to think, act and etc.......not by the type of drugs they do, or the clothes they wear.....the thing is a little bit more complex........right kevin?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 06:58 PM
hey castle your confusing a few things and using pre-made concepts to "judge" kevinok without knowing what you're talking about......
as kevin said, you don't have to do drugs to be a hippie, i don't know how to explain, but the hippie movement are "diferent" from the "others" because they diferent beliefs and diferent ways to think, act and etc.......not by the type of drugs they do, or the clothes they wear.....the thing is a little bit more complex........right kevin?
It's more of a thought process
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 07:14 PM
I find hippies annoying, but at times funny.
kevinok
08-07-2003, 07:52 PM
why do all you people hate hippies
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 08:32 PM
Well If all hippies do drugs then I have a reason to hate them.
eatmorchikin6464
08-07-2003, 09:55 PM
for all of those people who think drugs arent bad for you, let me tell you something. you have all probably heard of ozzy osbourne. and i hoped you have noticed you he talks and walks and how he is very slow to understand things. well that is from takin drugs. also if drugs werent bad for you, cops wouldnt arrest people for takin them
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 09:57 PM
yeah we all know acid and all that is bad fo ru.....but is marijuana?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 10:24 PM
not all hippies do drugs. and lets look at keith richards he will never die
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:26 PM
well all hippies int he 70's did....today tehy are called new age hippies
The First
08-07-2003, 10:28 PM
True. Vagrant is right. drugs are bad period.
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:32 PM
marijuana isnt that bad for u....i think beer and cigaretts are worse than marijuana
kevinok
08-07-2003, 10:35 PM
im a hippie
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:37 PM
ur only 15 years old.......why r u a hippie? i mean whats the point
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 10:40 PM
marijuana isnt that bad for u....i think beer and cigaretts are worse than marijuana
it isn't that bad??
that's what you think because it degenerate your brain slowly, you don't see it coming, when you notice it, it's too late......
Drink and cigars are worse?
So what it still doesn't make any good to the organism, there are a lot of worse drugs, but that doesn't make marijuana good.......
kevinok
08-07-2003, 10:43 PM
ur only 15 years old.......why r u a hippie? i mean whats the point
whats your point???????????????
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:45 PM
r u a hippie becuase of the music....or because u think its cool or wat?
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:45 PM
Everybody needs to get it through their thick heads-- DRUGS ARE BAD.
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:47 PM
we all got that point
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:51 PM
You sure about everybody having that point?
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:52 PM
ok well i have that point...even though i still smoke pot....but i dont do it very often
kevinok
08-07-2003, 10:53 PM
im a hippie because of there ideas
K_and_H
08-07-2003, 10:53 PM
Ok maybe I need to add that thick headed people know its bad they're just too thick-headed to think about the fact that it'll to stuff to them.
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:55 PM
what are the hippie ideas? peace love everything is groovey?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 10:56 PM
drugs arent that bad
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 10:58 PM
well why does it matter for u if u dont do drugs?
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:04 PM
you know nothing about hippies
CastleFreak04
08-07-2003, 11:05 PM
yeah i know a great deal about hippies
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:07 PM
Castle Freak... i agree with kevin, I don't think you do....
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:08 PM
hey vag is on today
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:09 PM
I've been on half the day kevinok
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:10 PM
i mean you've been smart today
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:13 PM
Oh well... I felt like being smart today, besides, I just need a good setup to pull it off.
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:15 PM
yea well your smart every now and then
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:16 PM
It all depends on the setup and the mood I'm in. I need to have a good mood so I go the extra distance.
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:19 PM
so if your in a bad mood your stupid
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:20 PM
No, I just don't go the extra distance like getting those star pics from the star viewer.
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 11:21 PM
let's say slow.........not stupid.............. :D
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:22 PM
okay how about not smart
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:24 PM
Just get back on topic ppl....
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:27 PM
well in away we are on topic
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 11:28 PM
yeah, because we are talking about dumbness, and marijuana makes you a dumb person...........
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:30 PM
okay all it does is make you lazy
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:30 PM
It gets you high kevin, it doesn't make you lazy
kevinok
08-07-2003, 11:32 PM
and when your high your lazy
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 11:33 PM
with the time, it does makes you slow......
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:33 PM
when you're high you're not always lazy...
tiritaka
08-07-2003, 11:36 PM
yeah.....but when you use it constantly or not, it uses your brain and consume your neurons, so you get slow, dumb, stupid, whatever you want to call.....
Vagrant
08-07-2003, 11:36 PM
a druggie in other words.
sefts
08-08-2003, 05:32 PM
Medically speaking: Smoking Mary Jane has the effect of smoking 10 cigarettes but the advantage is that Mary Jane doesn't have any "addictive effects" like cigarettes.
Physically Speaking: TO me marijuanna has addictive properties... People really like effect of marijuanna and therefore get addicted to it.
tiritaka
08-08-2003, 05:51 PM
Medically speaking: Smoking Mary Jane has the effect of smoking 10 cigarettes but the advantage is that Mary Jane doesn't have any "addictive effects" like cigarettes.
Physically Speaking: TO me marijuanna has addictive properties... People really like effect of marijuanna and therefore get addicted to it.
yeah, there are no CHEMICAL addictive effects, but i does has mental adicctive effets, like i already said before................
kevinok
08-08-2003, 10:07 PM
pot is better then cigarettes in so many ways. No has died from pot. PEople may die from things they do while there on pot. But the drug it self doesnt kill you. But cigarettes can and do kill you
tiritaka
08-08-2003, 10:26 PM
pot is better then cigarettes in so many ways. No has died from pot. PEople may die from things they do while there on pot. But the drug it self doesnt kill you. But cigarettes can and do kill you
even if IT doesn't kills you, it affects your mind and THAT can kill/hurt you and the people around, because you lose your acknowledge of "what's right and what's wrong", you feel soo good, but that's the problem, you feel good doing anything.....anything that does take you out off your normal conscience state is bad......
Danielle
08-08-2003, 10:29 PM
okay here is a true story about how pots messes up your judgement...
There was this guy who was a long time smoker of pot and he got in a tiny fight with his brother and the n got high. he went back to his brother and chopped off his head and carried it around with him and put his body on his moms door step. he is now in jail though and admitted the whole thing
Galactus
08-08-2003, 10:30 PM
See? There's two true stories now about how pot can mess up your head. Just because it's not the thing 'doing harm' to those other people, that doesn't mean that it's not harmful in it's entirety.
kevinok
08-08-2003, 10:42 PM
that is not something some one on pot would do and for all you know that person might have done it anyways
Danielle
08-08-2003, 10:53 PM
i am just saying that taht is one of the stories i ahve heard...
tiritaka
08-08-2003, 10:55 PM
that is not something some one on pot would do and for all you know that person might have done it anyways
yeah, i admit that this person probably was already mentally ill and that he might had killed his brother with or without pot, but that can be a consequence of the "abusive" use of the drug......it mess and f**k (sorry mods) up with your brain, so don't mess with it..........
kevinok
08-08-2003, 11:01 PM
well you really never know though
Vagrant
08-08-2003, 11:17 PM
Never really know? Kevinok, take a druggie's pot away, see what he'll do.
kevinok
08-08-2003, 11:52 PM
Never really know? Kevinok, take a druggie's pot away, see what he'll do.
THe thing is you can never really know
Vagrant
08-09-2003, 12:38 AM
Well true... he may be thinking a million ways to kill you...
tiritaka
08-09-2003, 12:39 AM
hey kevin, i think you're sleepy like me and just want to make some fuun now.......lol..........i get a little dumb when i'm sleepy.........it's 1:32 am here.......it's still early, i know, but i've been sleepy lately.....
kevinok
08-09-2003, 01:02 AM
yea well its just something i argue about
CastleFreak04
08-09-2003, 02:13 AM
kevin jus argues about ne thing and everything....its just something that gets him posts adn gives hims omething to do
kevinok
08-09-2003, 02:23 AM
no it's just that i fight for what i think
CastleFreak04
08-09-2003, 02:25 AM
yeah ur like my dad....even if a billion people think ur wrong and 10 agree w/ u or even 100 think ur right....u will think ur right....even if its totally wrong
kevinok
08-09-2003, 02:27 AM
well iff you prove me wrong i will change my mind
CastleFreak04
08-09-2003, 02:34 AM
yeah well ur better htan my dad....if u prove him wrong....he still wont believe....and to prove u wrong aobut drugs...look at the OD's and OZZY!
tiritaka
08-09-2003, 09:26 AM
We won't convince him if he doesn't have an open mind for this issue, and we can't force him to think like we do, he has this right........think whatever he wants, independent of who and how much people say otherwise.......
the number of people that think he's wrong doesn't make him wrong........
kevinok
08-09-2003, 06:44 PM
well all the things every one has said can be disproven which i have done
Vagrant
08-09-2003, 06:57 PM
Ummm kevinok? In your dreams maybe....
kevinok
08-09-2003, 07:28 PM
in my dreams what
Galactus
08-09-2003, 07:35 PM
Dude, how have you disproven anything I've said? Can you go and get me some evidence that Marijuana doesn't do more damage to your lungs than cigarettes? I can get you evidence that it does.
kevinok
08-09-2003, 07:45 PM
okay let me see it onslaught
Galactus
08-09-2003, 07:53 PM
Marijuana smoke contains many of the same respiratory irritants and carcinogens found in tobacco smoke - many in higher concentrations.
Source: http://www.sk.lung.ca/content.cfm/xtra0095
A new study shows that smoking crack cocaine and marijuana can damage the lung's immune system more than smoking cigarettes.
Source: http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/4d1fe.htm
Okay, now where's your evidence?
kevinok
08-09-2003, 08:00 PM
okay and how is the pot smoken in this study
Galactus
08-09-2003, 08:02 PM
How is the pot smoked? It doesn't matter. Be it joint or bong or bowl, they all do the same thing.
Lots of people think that a bong will lower the amount of bad stuff, but the filter also lowers the amount of what gets you high through, so you need to smoke even more of it, doing the same amount of damage.
Now come on Kev, I gave you evidence, now where's yours? Want some more of mine?
A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers. Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.
Source: http://www.drug-effects.com/effects-of-marijuana.htm
Actually its been clinically proven that smoking marijuana has NO long term affects.
Galactus
08-09-2003, 08:05 PM
Man, that's like the stupidest comment in this thread. No offense, but I'm giving out links to medical resourecs left and right pointing out the damaging effects of marijuana, and then you come in and say it has no effects.
kevinok
08-09-2003, 08:09 PM
thank you kero
Galactus
08-09-2003, 08:10 PM
Neither of you have any evidece to back that up, kevin, why don't you just admit defeat on this one?
kevinok
08-09-2003, 08:24 PM
because right now im to lazy to find my info
InsaneFootman
08-09-2003, 08:37 PM
lol i'll find it for you
kevinok
08-09-2003, 08:43 PM
okay thank you insane
Vagrant
08-09-2003, 11:03 PM
I agree with onslaught.... I mean what the hell? All officials say Marijuana is bad for your health permanently.... Unless you get $20000 surgeries...
eatmorchikin6464
08-09-2003, 11:05 PM
yeah, if you dont think marjuana is bad for you, then you must of been usin it for 20 years to make you that stupid
kevinok
08-09-2003, 11:58 PM
well this is just what i think okay
K_and_H
08-11-2003, 11:19 AM
Well maybe you need a different mind set
CastleFreak04
08-11-2003, 02:55 PM
marijuana is not even near as bad as cigarettes whoever thinks they are that bad then they are retarted there ar eno diseases or cancers u can get from pot and it kills such a small amount of braincelss it doesnt matter
K_and_H
08-11-2003, 03:13 PM
Darn Idiots, IT IS BAD FOR YOU!!!!!! Look it up. And you havent given any evidence to support your case.
K_and_H
08-11-2003, 03:15 PM
The medical dictionary gives this definition--marijuana
A often used street drug that is derived from the marijuana plant (active ingredient tetra-hydro-cannabinol). Used to heighten perception, cause mood swings and relax the mind and body. Signs of use include: red eyes, lethargy and uncoordinated body movements. Long term effects include a decrease in motivation, but may also have harmful effects on the brain, heart, lung and reproductive system.
CastleFreak04
08-11-2003, 03:17 PM
dude please dont double post on my thread...there is an edit button....and secondly those side affect..the long term ones...arent usual u dont get ne thing wrong w/ ur brain hear or lung or reproductive system unless u smoke an ounce a day everyday
Vagrant
08-11-2003, 03:22 PM
There is a reason cigarrettes are allowed to sell in super markets, and a reason why marijuana and ppot is illegal.
CastleFreak04
08-11-2003, 03:24 PM
well if u lived in canada pot is leagal...and cigarrets should be illegal adn so should alcohol
Vagrant
08-11-2003, 03:27 PM
no, not alcohol.... it has some actual uses. And we don't want prohinbition again in America. cigarettes, maybe.
CastleFreak04
08-11-2003, 03:28 PM
yeah alcohol is great....pot is great....cigarrets suck
Vagrant
08-11-2003, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't say pot is great... but that's me.
Alcohol actually is used sometimes in church services and at times is useful as a sort of morphine.
kevinok
08-11-2003, 04:27 PM
ah yes the blood of christ right vag. Then we get to jews so much drinking there
tiritaka
08-11-2003, 04:53 PM
If you think there is no long term effects, smoke a lot, and when you see yourself dumb, thinking slowly, acting slowly, with all your neurons dead, you'll see it's long term effects.........
kevinok
08-11-2003, 04:55 PM
okay lets just end this topic now we each think what we want either right or wrong and we wont change what anyone eles thinks
tiritaka
08-11-2003, 05:02 PM
That's for sure.......we'll all fight till the topic gets locked and no one will change it's mind......
kevinok
08-11-2003, 05:04 PM
yea i know i wont change my mind that easly and i think the same goes for every one eles
CastleFreak04
08-11-2003, 05:27 PM
and i wont chagne my mind...POT IS FUN....ALCOHOL IS GOOD...and GOD IS REAL...i say we have a MOD. Lock the God threads because those are neverending arguments and so is this one
tiritaka
08-11-2003, 05:46 PM
i say we have a MOD. Lock the God threads because those are neverending arguments and so is this one
funny....why you started it then?
kevinok
08-11-2003, 09:55 PM
how about we dont talk about religen, drugs, and politics
CastleFreak04
08-12-2003, 12:05 AM
i started it becuse i dind thtink ti woudl cause this much argument i thought it would only be like a page and its up to 13
kevinok
08-12-2003, 12:08 AM
yea so you made a mistake
CastleFreak04
08-12-2003, 12:12 AM
sure did and so did the people w/ the god ones
kevinok
08-12-2003, 12:14 AM
and then the politics ones to
CastleFreak04
08-12-2003, 02:41 AM
YEAH ACTUALLY ALL OF THEM LOL BECUAS EAN ARGUMENT STARTS IN ALL OF THEM! LOL....SO WE SHOULD JUS LEAVE THEM ALL
Galactus
08-12-2003, 02:45 AM
You know what though, if you're gonna do pot, just eat it. Make some brownies. The onset takes a lot longer but the effects are with you for 3 to 4 hours, much longer peak, and no badness for your lungs. It's actually the safest way to use pot. It has no effect on your system whatsoever, aside from maybe feeling nausea if you eat too fast.
Vagrant
08-12-2003, 12:16 PM
Hmmm.... that must be odd. But wouldn't there be a large withdrawal?
jason
08-12-2003, 12:46 PM
what do u mean withdrawal like um.. staying away from everyone
kevinok
08-12-2003, 06:17 PM
the effects it has on you
Vagrant
08-12-2003, 07:08 PM
I mean, like about a few hours or even days after it, the side effects you feel.
CastleFreak04
08-12-2003, 07:53 PM
smoking it is the best
Vagrant
08-12-2003, 08:17 PM
No. It gets in ur lungs if you smoke. Eating it is probably the healthiest way.
K_and_H
08-12-2003, 09:37 PM
there is no heathy way to do pot
tiritaka
08-12-2003, 09:53 PM
there is no heathy way to do pot
yeah, i think it is bad any way you do it.......
Vagrant
08-12-2003, 11:37 PM
stilll of all the coices, healthiest
kevinok
08-12-2003, 11:55 PM
any thing can be bad for you
Vagrant
08-12-2003, 11:57 PM
Such as uranium, cyanide, lead, bullets, and various house utensils.
kevinok
08-13-2003, 12:25 AM
Bluebarries can be bad for you
tiritaka
08-13-2003, 12:32 AM
it could........but only if you were really stupid....
kevinok
08-13-2003, 01:48 AM
Anything can kill you
Vagrant
08-13-2003, 01:08 PM
Welll duh.... even grass could....
jason
08-13-2003, 01:54 PM
grass lol just like clone high....
marijuana can be fun and cure ur eyes so it can be good for you sometimes
kevinok
08-13-2003, 11:38 PM
pot can also help people that are in pain
Liokae
08-13-2003, 11:44 PM
pot can also help people that are in pain
There's a full Doonsebury story arc on that, actually. Quite good.
Feuer frei
08-14-2003, 12:43 AM
I have personally been smoking pot sence my parents died (4 years ago) and I still maintain a 4.0 or higher. I still have a job...And im still the smartest person you know...The only thing pot is good for in calming people down. You can die of pot, but thats only if you smoke 3-5 joints a day for 50 years. You can do stupid things while on pot, but those stupid things are funny as hell when your high. Those stupid things dont involve burning houses down or anything, more illegal then pot. Some people do drink while high, and they do die...Then again those people deserve darwin arwards anyways....
kevinok
08-14-2003, 12:47 AM
I have personally been smoking pot sence my parents died (4 years ago) and I still maintain a 4.0 or higher. I still have a job...And im still the smartest person you know...The only thing pot is good for in calming people down. You can die of pot, but thats only if you smoke 3-5 joints a day for 50 years. You can do stupid things while on pot, but those stupid things are funny as hell when your high. Those stupid things dont involve burning houses down or anything, more illegal then pot. Some people do drink while high, and they do die...Then again those people deserve darwin arwards anyways....
I have been waiting for your comment.
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 12:47 AM
pot can also help people that are in pain
It's better to use morphine or an alcohol.
kevinok
08-14-2003, 12:49 AM
Pot is safer then both of those vag
Feuer frei
08-14-2003, 12:50 AM
Vag stop being the voice of reason here!!! AAWW youngin!
Hehe Ive been gone for awhile, and I just saw this thread.
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 12:52 AM
Pot is safer then both of those vag
Safer than morphine? You must be smoking some pot right now.
W00t! voice o reason
kevinok
08-14-2003, 12:53 AM
you people really need to stop trying to change peoples minds
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 12:55 AM
You need to stop using that pot and share it.
You won't listen will you?
Feuer frei
08-14-2003, 12:56 AM
Share my pot...*Hands vag a pipe full of killa and a lighter* Here light it up....
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 12:58 AM
*takes a deep breath
Yah... that's the stuff.
kevinok
08-14-2003, 01:01 AM
there we go. *Takes a hit from the joint*
d-d-d-d-u-u-u-u-u-d-d-d-d-e-e-e-e look at the colors
Feuer frei
08-14-2003, 01:02 AM
The spin is rooming... For real though I think I should get high....
kevinok
08-14-2003, 01:05 AM
yea that would be nice right now.
look at the purple haze
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 01:09 AM
Oohh the colors... so pretty..
kevinok
08-14-2003, 01:11 AM
Vag you would be a really odd stoner
Vagrant
08-14-2003, 01:11 AM
Sorry... being a Christian, it's hard to fake.
kevinok
08-14-2003, 01:17 AM
i know christans that smoke pot
anoanoguy
08-15-2003, 03:49 PM
Its much worse than a cigarette
Feuer frei
08-15-2003, 03:54 PM
I know but most people who smoke cigs, smoke a pack a day. most people who smoke pot, smoke one every two or three days....
anoanoguy
08-15-2003, 04:13 PM
:-# pot is bad :-#
Feuer frei
08-15-2003, 04:33 PM
So, the air you breathe now adays is bad for you...
John_117
08-15-2003, 05:02 PM
not as bad
Feuer frei
08-15-2003, 05:51 PM
Its more likely you'll be killed by a house landing on you. Then being killed by pot........
Stick Bat Boy
08-15-2003, 07:44 PM
duh it is bad it leaves you slower than most average people. i think it is stupid to smoke marijuana even cigarettes!!!!!!!
kevinok
08-15-2003, 07:50 PM
well your so young
Feuer frei
08-15-2003, 07:53 PM
Ive been smoking it for 3 years and I still have an IQ of 187. And Im one of the smartest people on the fourm...
tiritaka
08-15-2003, 09:48 PM
but it seems to me that it took all of your modesty away.........lol.......
kevinok
08-16-2003, 01:42 AM
Ive been smoking it for 3 years and I still have an IQ of 187. And Im one of the smartest people on the fourm...
Yea only behiend me. My iq is 198.
Harris90210
08-16-2003, 10:33 PM
pepple that have cancer smoke pot so they dont throw up after the take medisine
tiritaka
08-16-2003, 10:37 PM
Ive been smoking it for 3 years and I still have an IQ of 187. And Im one of the smartest people on the fourm...
i never took a test because i'm not curious to know how dumb i am, i actually don't believe very much on iq tests, i'm not sure if they do really "measure" someone's inteligency.........
Vagrant
08-16-2003, 11:04 PM
Yeah. Real intelligence is wisdom, not just knowledge.
Stick Bat Boy
08-17-2003, 11:07 AM
why smoke it?????
it is illegal!!!
angee1
08-17-2003, 02:20 PM
You don't die from smoking pot. It makes you lazy. The only possible way you are going to die on pot is if your house catches on fire while making munchies. Pot is less addictive in nature than ciggerettes. Pot is a naturally occuring substance. Tobacco is as well but pot isn't treated with tar and chemicals before it's smoked.
Those are just the first few points that come to mind on the subject.
And btw I smoke ciggerettes. I quit pot in highschool.
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