Depression (Not FTW?)

[XGEN-CRaZeD]

I'm depressed and such. I'm always inside and it's a beautiful day out... But there is nothing to do outside. All my "Friends" are always somewhere doing something awesome, and im stuck here, doing nothing... No, I don't do drugs. And I am gaining weight from staying inside to much. I feel lonely from not having any "friends" around... Don't call me an attention wh0re. What should I do? Turn goth? Suicide? Just stop doing anything? Thanks guys.

[JoeyG]

You should try cutting yourself.

Edit:
Seriously, though, you should go bike over to the library or something. Get a good book, or meet some homeless people (for the record, I'm being dead serious here: as long as you don't touch or believe them, homeless people are incredibly fun to listen to). You could try jogging, as AR suggested, or find something to do inside: you could write music, or a book, or something (PM me for story ideas).

[AssaultRifle]

You should try cutting yourself.
Joey, stop being a dick. The guy is asking for help, not for you to make the situation worse.
Edit: Thank you, Joey.

XGC: Get outside. Take a jog, ride a bike, go fishing! Do something that will get you off of the computer and out of the house.

[Logic]

I'm depressed....Don't call me an attention wh0re. What should I do? Turn goth? Suicide? Just stop doing anything? Thanks guys.

Is this a joke on the other depression thread? Sorry if it's not and you take offense, it's just awkward timing.

Anyway, if you're being serious, go outside. All you have to do is actually go outside, and then you're outside. From there you can do things that don't require electricity for entertainment, such as playing a sport, landscaping, yardwork, mechanics, whatever.

[XGEN-CRaZeD]

Is this a joke on the other depression thread? Sorry if it's not and you take offense, it's just awkward timing.

Anyway, if you're being serious, go outside. All you have to do is actually go outside, and then you're outside. From there you can do things that don't require electricity for entertainment, such as playing a sport, landscaping, yardwork, mechanics, whatever.

No, it's not a joke.

[AssaultRifle]

XGC, just get up and go. Right now. Seriously, get off XGen and do some pushups or something. When you are done, you will feel great about yourself.

[Sperry]

Since when did XGen receive its Doctorate?

Things like this, if serious, should seek a higher level of guidance than a rabble of teens.

[AssaultRifle]

Since when did XGen receive its Doctorate?

Things like this, if serious, should seek a higher level of guidance than a rabble of teens.

But then again, a group of peers in the same age range might understand it better. I'm not saying not to seek professional help, I'm just suggesting that XGen isn't entirely useless when it comes to this.

[ipwnkthxbai]

Start doing drugs, dead serious.

[Honeycomb]

Holy crap, why are all my E-Friend's always have to be Nerd's and Loner's?!

Why do your "friend's" exclude you? Phone one of your friend's, invite him over, go over to his house and ask why they keep excluding you. If they keep excluding you, take revenge. Egg there house, TP it, shoot them with a Airsoft gun.

You can do that or try and get some new friend's (Talk to people at school, that's how you make more friend's).

[AssaultRifle]

Start doing drugs, dead serious.

Get out. Drugs are not to be used as a crutch.

[ipwnkthxbai]

Pot is a hero.

[JoeyG]

Pot will help with depression in the following cases:

When the depression would last under 24 hours anyway
When you aren't depressed


and it will be a very very bad idea in the following cases:

Anything else

[ipwnkthxbai]

You people are so ill-informed. You probably all have no problems with drinking(if you do then what's your problem?), but when it comes to pot, a less dangerous drug you guys are all like "LIEKOMFG D00D POT IS BAD YOU LIEK DIE YEAH!!!!!11one"

[Joest]

Pot will help with depression in the following cases:



When the depression would last under 24 hours anywayWhenWhen
you aren't depressed
n the following cases:

Anything else




Not entirely since Medical Marijuana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_marijuana), they even have candy laced with pot for kids with cancer.



I say go outside and go to a park, play some sports and go out with your friends, even if you don't want to because its better then sitting in front of a screen all day.

[AssaultRifle]

You people are so ill-informed. You probably all have no problems with drinking(if you do then what's your problem?), but when it comes to pot, a less dangerous drug you guys are all like "LIEKOMFG D00D POT IS BAD YOU LIEK DIE YEAH!!!!!11one"

I have no problem with drinking (you would know that, as many others do on this forums), and I have no problem with drugs. I do have a problem when drugs are used to solve problems. As I said, drugs should not be used as a crutch.

[Joest]

Drugs are not a crutch, in the 80's people in the ghetto were taking crack just for the hell of it but they started doing suicide and such. If you use drugs for a crutch or just for the hell of it get some help, If you get hooked on some stuff you might never be able to get off.

Like in Ray, he was going through withdrawal in the hospital.

[snoman99991]

Try getting a job, or importantly, just do work.

There's nothing that brings you up like the feeling that you've accomplished something. Even if your lazy, it's always nice to feel useful.

[Jimbimanim II]

You don't even have to do anything outside... Just lie back on a deck chair... or the grass or something and watch the birds... or sleep.

Or you could walk around your garden. Always works.

[Tanktunker]

You people are so ill-informed. You probably all have no problems with drinking(if you do then what's your problem?), but when it comes to pot, a less dangerous drug you guys are all like "LIEKOMFG D00D POT IS BAD YOU LIEK DIE YEAH!!!!!11one"
Actually, I think JoeyG mentioned being on the chronic.
I'd smoke, but I'm too scared of getting dirty (As in laced with something that isn't Marijuana) pot.

[h00pla]

You people are so ill-informed. You probably all have no problems with drinking(if you do then what's your problem?), but when it comes to pot, a less dangerous drug you guys are all like "LIEKOMFG D00D POT IS BAD YOU LIEK DIE YEAH!!!!!11one"

1. Something about drinking a substance my liver must actively FIGHT off just doesn't sound like the best idea to me.

2. Pot's a less dangerous drug like bungie jumping with a rope is less dangerous than without. it doesn't mean it's "safe"

and I love how it's "ill informed" not to have a problem with a legal substance but to when it comes to an illegal substance we don't agree with it.

[ipwnkthxbai]

Of course there is a down-side to pot. There's a down side to pretty much anything. Pot does help you relax, when you're worked up about something, pot helps. I'm not saying it's good for you, but it's for the most part not too harmful. This isn't an addictive drug or anything that we're talking about. Smoking it will probably do a little damage to your lungs, but this isn't any different than doing something like running. Sure, it does damage to your knees, but it has benefits. We argue all day about the negative effects of pot, but there's one thing we can agree on, it's something that will help you out if you're going through problems in life. There are probably better ways to solve problems, and if you don't want to do pot then don't, but in the end the decision is up to xgen-crazed.

[M4l3x]

Talk to people at school, that's how you make more friend's
Yes, We all know how to make friends.
Try taking some time to bike a few km. or run

[Sperry]

Its very much possible to tie my shoes with a forklift, but its hardly the best way to do it. Just because one particular method exhibits "benefits" does not mean that this method is correct or even sensible.

[h00pla]

Of course there is a down-side to pot. There's a down side to pretty much anything.

Breathing has yet to have a down side

Pot does help you relax, when you're worked up about something, pot helps. I'm not saying it's good for you, but it's for the most part not too harmful.

So do other things, and a lot of those are legal

This isn't an addictive drug or anything that we're talking about.

Not addictive in the same way porn isn't addictive, there may be no physical craving but that doesn't mean your mind doesn't crave it

Smoking it will probably do a little damage to your lungs, but this isn't any different than doing something like running. Sure, it does damage to your knees, but it has benefits.

Show me a scientific benefit of pot. And to let you know, smoking pot is worse for your lungs than a cigarette

We argue all day about the negative effects of pot, but there's one thing we can agree on, it's something that will help you out if you're going through problems in life.

If you define help as ignoring then I suppose so. But maybe you could do something known as "dealing with it" to sort out your problems

There are probably better ways to solve problems, and if you don't want to do pot then don't, but in the end the decision is up to xgen-crazed.

at least you know there are better ways.

[JoeyG]

Breathing has yet to have a down side
And yet you say that breathing pot has a downside. Contradiction!

Not addictive in the same way porn isn't addictive, there may be no physical craving but that doesn't mean your mind doesn't crave it
Okay... the same can be said for food, and drink, and brushing your teeth every night. Please tell me how it's relevant.

Show me a scientific benefit of pot. And to let you know, smoking pot is worse for your lungs than a cigarette
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/mari.html

Not sure how "Relaxation" and "Reduced blood pressure" are bad. Certainly can't see how reducing stress is bad for you, given that increasing stress is bad.

I'll take note of your lung damage point. I'll go tell all my friends who some 30 joints per day for 50 years. They'll be very surprised, I imagine.

[h00pla]

A mental addiction is just about as bad as a physical one. And eating and drinking are required for living, pot isn't. as for brushing your teeth, if you can get addicted to that I'd be a little worried.

Not sure how "Relaxation" and "Reduced blood pressure" are bad. Certainly can't see how reducing stress is bad for you, given that increasing stress is bad

of course that list is also followed by

# sleepiness
# disruption in attention
# an altered sense of time and space...a good reason not to drive or operate machinery while under the influence.

and a little later

* hallucinations
* delusions
* impaired memory
* disorientation.

things which aren't good. And again, using a drug as a crutch is even worse than using the drug to begin with.

Then again, I'm usually against messing with my body's chemistry. It hasn't done anything wrong and I'd hate to tip the balance

I'll take note of your lung damage point. I'll go tell all my friends who some 30 joints per day for 50 years. They'll be very surprised, I imagine.

And I'm sure all the people who smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day were surprised when they learned how bad it was for them

I might be able to swallow cyanide and not die, does that mean it's safe?

[JoeyG]

*sigh* Reduced stress and blood pressure will both have lasting effects on your well-being. Being disoriented and tired do not. There's no evidence for hallucinations being bad for you, and recent studies have shown that in the vast majority of cases, hallucinations have a *good* effect on your well-being.

If I don't brush my teeth, I get this gross fuzzy feeling after 18 hours that makes me want to brush them. By your definintion, I'm "addicted", because I have a mental want that won't go away until it's satisfied. In fact, I'm more addicted than your typical pothead.


Your cyanide argument is bogus: it's a thoroughly false analogy.

[Posh Jibbons]

My cure for depression is working out. It used to be pot, but for many reasons, I stopped.

I've ALWAYS been a loner myself. I just dont need friends or that kind of attention like most people do. Probably why I get along so well on the internet... anyway, start working out. Once you see and feel yourself getting stronger and more fit, your self esteem will go up, and you wont be so depressed. Its hard work but it's worth it.

Good luck, dude.

[Eon26]

10 LAPS AROUND UR HOUSE... i mean NOW!!!! HUT HUT!!!!!

[h00pla]

*sigh* Reduced stress and blood pressure will both have lasting effects on your well-being. Being disoriented and tired do not. There's no evidence for hallucinations being bad for you, and recent studies have shown that in the vast majority of cases, hallucinations have a *good* effect on your well-being.

ANd yet I've managed reduced stress and blood pressure without a drug. Amd while the engative affects may be temporary, what could happen in that period might not be.

If I don't brush my teeth, I get this gross fuzzy feeling after 18 hours that makes me want to brush them. By your definintion, I'm "addicted", because I have a mental want that won't go away until it's satisfied. In fact, I'm more addicted than your typical pothead.

You can't control yourself? Even for brushing your teeth?


Your cyanide argument is bogus: it's a thoroughly false analogy.

I like using extreme comparisons

[DrugAddict]

shut up dude... you're asking others to adopt this vice while you yourself are trying to get rid of the addiction. drugs are bad for your health. for example, if you choose to take steriods, your body doesn't produce as much ADP as before because steriods provides you with an easy path for obtaining energy. and certainly your parents don't want to see you taking them. you should eat more chocolate/candies and do some exercise. sometimes seeking conselling service helps too. you'll feel better.

[DrugAddict]

well. it was just an example to illustrate the idea of drug addiction. not every druggie you see suffers from an ADP deficiency when they stop taking drugs. and recent studies have shown chocolates(or any other substances that contains a high concentration of sugar) helps reduce signs of depression.
and besides, ADP keeps recycling inside your body(more than 1000 times each day). you only need a trace amount of ADP (roughly 0.1 mole) to sustain yourself. therefore, the main source of ADP comes from your body itself, not from the outside environment.
think of ADP as an enzyme. (it doesn't behave like one tho) it doesn't have to be replenished because ADP is always kept inside your body. although ADP is converted to other forms during respiration, everntually it changes back to its original form. from this defintion, you don't need to absorb ADP from other organisims at all. same for NADH/GDP.

[SalsatheGeek]

Do something useful and make some new friends..........

[mattz1010]

Breathing has yet to have a down side.
It's the leading cause in death.

Somebody mentioned it once on one of the 3 forums that I go to. Not that I care to remember the specifics, but I think it had something to do with oxygen and the failure of some cells to process it correctly. As to be expected, the # of cells that do this increase drastically over time.

[h00pla]

those are the user errors the cells undergo. the underlying process is just fine

[Vagrant]

Depression is often caused by a lack of seratonin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seratonin) being produced in the brain. Seratonin is associated with better emotions such as happiness and pleasure. However, clinical depression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_Depression) usually consists of more reasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_Depression#Causes_of_depression) than just chemicals in the brain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_Depression#Causes_of_depression). If you find that you are depressed, and have some of the listed reasons, consult your psychiatrist or doctor immediately. Clinical Depression should be treated ASAP. If it is not treated, it will slowly destroy a person from the inside.