Zeropoint battery by John Hutchison

[manoftheman6]

Hey, was grounded from teh computer for a wile, I was watching a program on the discovery channel and i noticed 2 things, one, the Hutchison effect, which is really neat, but even better, was the zero point battery he made and is selling to the japanize, they use basicly rocks and christals and the power lasts as long as the actual mineral lasts, which is vertually forever, if anyone can elaborate on this subject *looks at dark and vag* Please do so, I'm thinking of doing something of the sort for a science fair project at school, think Id get prity high marks for doing so.

[ehntoo]

I can elaborate.

These "batteries", for lack of an easily usable word, collect radiant energy from all around you and convert them into electricity.

For example, they could take a radio station signal and a one of the rocks he uses would pick the waves up, and change the radio waves into an electrical current.

There's not much of a way you could do it for a science fair, though... the rocks he uses have really rare crystal structures.

[manoftheman6]

how is that true? I saw him on the TV show go around town picking up normal rocks just off the street in flower beads and such and tranfered the radient energy into enough electric current to turn on a pen light.

[Hijacker27]

that's because it's a TV show, they probalby put them there for him to pick up or something, and the pen probably had a battery in it...

[manoftheman6]

it diddnt dude, it was on discovery channel, they dont lie, ever, and seriously, I dont think charcol can make a pen light up if it wasnt supposed to.

[DarkReality]

Charcoal can only light something up if it's burned. He didn't say they're lying, they just wanted to make it visually appealling to the audience. Or would you be interested if he went into some laboratory storage, picked out some carefully chosen rocks, and then made it work? Not as much as if he just went around town.

And speaking of going around town, in south africa, there are beaches which habe crude diamonds in them (however, they're fenced off and I believe the government troops shoot you on sight if you climb over the fence). So it all depends on where you are.

[manoftheman6]

well then, what are the gems or rare minerals that you need for the power cell to function? I really want to make it into the nationals :D

[DarkReality]

http://archives.openflows.org/electronetwork-l/msg00175.html

This is a short article desribing another attempt at zero-point technology. After reading this, I have the feeling you will, under no circumstance, figure out how it works. Should an energy-gaining machine really have been developed, something tells me you won't be able to a) cover it in something like a school science fair project and b) won't even figure out how it works. Anyone who invents this and simply puts it in the internet is either an idiot or a communist revolutionary who wants everyone to have free energy.

[manoftheman6]

well, being a left wing communist really does say soem stuff about me, and that brings up the next topic im about to make in a couple of seconds, and when i get legal, im turning north america into a left wing commie/dictatorship ness and everyoen will be happy, exept the stupid texans and such, but they will get happily uthanized :D

EDIT: O yes that website dosnt help me one bit, and it is possible, just some people are to ignorant to see that it does work.

[DarkReality]

well, being a left wing communist really does say soem stuff about me, and that brings up the next topic im about to make in a couple of seconds, and when i get legal, im turning north america into a left wing commie/dictatorship ness and everyoen will be happy, exept the stupid texans and such, but they will get happily uthanized :D

EDIT: O yes that website dosnt help me one bit, and it is possible, just some people are to ignorant to see that it does work.

*blink* So you mean to say that you think it's possible to defy one of the fundamental laws of physics and create energy by using a freaking crystal that can be found in your neighborhood? Don't you think someone may have thought of that a bit earlier? Like, around the time electromagnetic were discovered?

The interesting part of the useless website was near the bottom, when they stated how highly debated zero-point technology is. Interesting was also the last bit, this:

Is this story a hoax?

Since publication of this story, CNN and other media have been
criticized for falling for a clear hoax. According to popular
technical web site slashdot.org the story is full of holes.

"Three 100 Watt light bulbs created a drain of 4500 Watts", - it
should be 300 Watts. The inventor comments that perpetual motion is
impossible, but then says what he's created is a "self-sustaining
unit" that generates surplus energy, surely just another name for the
same thing?

Slashdot points out that this inventor's claim contravenes the second
law of thermodynamics which states that in a closed system, any real
physical process ends with less useful energy than it started with,
some is always wasted.

In other words, a perpetual motion machine is impossible.

You don't have to read it if you feel like you know it all anyway.

And experience tells us that people aren't happy in communism, simply because of human nature. Not only that, but it's not exactly easy to turn North America into a dictatorship. Not to mention that no one would really agree, storm your home/headquarters, and tear you into bits and pieces and then call themselves heroes. On top of that, dictators have a history of being killed more often than not.

Some people should be shot for their stupidity. Seriously.

[manoftheman6]

well, not alot of people have as many facts as you do, most of us are just starting to figure out everything in the world, such as me, and o ya, that last quote from you, is untrue, its not prepetual motion, it just uses energy that is usually wasted in a battery, etc, there fore its not prepetual motion, and if its impossible, then why do 23 collages and over 100 scientists that have seen his invention say theres no flaw to it and it will change the world? It seems some people are ignorant to facts, And I know Id get killed easily, just a little dream i have now and then, still, i cant see why so many people are capitalist still? (no offence to anyone there, just I had to say it, since it seems kinda odd to me.)

[DarkReality]

Well, then I'd like to see these facts I'm so ignorant of. Once again I have to restate, if this idea worked, then it would have long been used. The idea of light being caught is an excellent one. Light can be incredibly powerful, in theory. But it hasn't been used. Similarily, these crystals and rocks that supposedly convert radiant energy are going to or already have one or more flaws that make them utterly useless.

Kind of like nuclear power. It's a great idea, but the radiation makes it somewhat... ineffective.

And instead of whining about how you don't know as much, there's a simple solution, learn it. Because you can't expect to do any of this as a science fair project if you don't inform yourself and learn how it works.

[manoftheman6]

i wasnt talking about the zero point power cell in my last post, I was talking about (damn, i forget his name) s energy machine, which does some phisics and such which i have no idea how to comprehend (im 13 if you didnt notice) im not trying to start a fight or anything, your my idol on this message board, but the reason that neither have gotten into the US market, is well, the patent office still thinks both are prepetual motion machines and arnt going to let them get US patents, Even though it dosnt cost them anything, and John Hutchison actually has a couple of japanize power companies working whith him to globally to sell his power cell, their manufacturing HQ is actually in hiroshima, and also, the zero point power cells nickname is the hiroshima battery. I dont think Japanize power companies would risk giving John the money to start up a warehouse, no?

[DarkReality]

Well, then I'd like to see these facts I'm so ignorant of

Seriously. You have my attention. I want some info. Web pages, his own for all i care, anything describing this. When searching zero-point technology on google, I get sites like the one above. Or I didn't look correctly, which could be it as well.

[manoftheman6]

Lol, Thats one of the reasons i posted it on here, you can probably find some stuff about the tv show at www.exn.ca and such, the discovery channel brodcasted it last week i think, watched it very carefully, if it helps, he also founded the Hutchison effect, which you can find at www.americanantigravity.com

[kevinok]

Zero-point energy is a really intresting concept. Now it is debateable if this already out there. I heard a whole show about this on Coast to Coast.

[manoftheman6]

I saw about 5 documentaries on the topic as well, all seem totally ligitamate to me, since they WERE on the discovery channel, and if they werent, then you could sew (sp?) discovery channel to kingdom come for fulse advetizing. (remeber: DISCOVERY!)