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Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 10:55 PM
This is just something that as been bugging me for awhile! I know alot of you are to young to really understand cloning (then again most of the people here are awsomely smart). Anyways to the point. What do you think about cloning? Do think that by making it Illege to clone im the U.S as set mankind back a few years? Or do you think that cloning a person is a bad idea? I just want to know what you all think. Thanks!

kevinok
07-16-2003, 10:59 PM
im not for full cloning of people because society isnt ready yet, plus do u really want 5 cthulhu running around. but i think we should clone organs because being able to do this will save count less numbers of lives.

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:04 PM
Agreed. But the cloning of people would be a future step. I mean if you could come the best people in the world and throw them in a room and tell them to make something they would make it. Then again if you can clone the best people you can also clone the worst of people.

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:10 PM
yet again do we really want 5 of either of us running around

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:12 PM
I would. 1 to clean the house. 1 to goto work. 1 togo onother job. 1 to spent time with my girlfriend. And the last 1 to Fix my car.

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:13 PM
okay we do want 5 skyes so he can get cinderfall out. but would u want 5 soleans

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:14 PM
So I can kill him in 5 different ways.

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:24 PM
yea but still that would be scary

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:27 PM
Id have to agree, but it would still be so much FUN!!

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:37 PM
fun if u dont die of fear

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:38 PM
Im not afread of much anymore, Besides the wrath of my girlfriend.

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:41 PM
yea girlfriends are scary

chipmcwood
07-16-2003, 11:48 PM
Try not to have meaningless convos that have nothing to do with the threads.

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:50 PM
You and your job. Anyways we were on topic till about the last 3 posts. Anyways I still think we should clone atleast animals in the U.S. BUT NO THE GOVERNMENT SAYS NO! LAND OF THE FREE MY ARSE!

kevinok
07-16-2003, 11:53 PM
land of the free if your white male christan

Feuer frei
07-16-2003, 11:54 PM
Ok i think this belongs in enough treat. Ill make it in Spam Land, That way I wont get yelled at.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 12:04 AM
no not in spam land

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 12:08 AM
Its kinda late, now.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 12:18 AM
it's never to late

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 03:52 AM
You cant turn back the clock.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 03:38 PM
just watch me *Opens up a clock and moves the hands back* so ha i did it

jason
07-17-2003, 03:42 PM
um.... ok weird

kevinok
07-17-2003, 03:46 PM
yea well thats me

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 03:50 PM
I mean you can turn back the hands of time, but you cant turn back time itself.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 03:51 PM
thats what u think

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 03:53 PM
No, Thats what I know. With our current technonlogy we cant even teleport more then one cell at a time. How are we gonna travle through time.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 03:55 PM
dont ask because u will see

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 03:56 PM
Then travle through time and bring my parents back......

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:05 PM
yea im to lazy

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:06 PM
You sick evil b@st3rd.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:08 PM
yea well thats me

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:10 PM
I know, I know. I wish they could clone Jesus. That would be cool. I would be the first person to attempt to Assassinate him.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:12 PM
dont kill the black man

Liokae
07-17-2003, 04:14 PM
Cloning a person wouldn't be all that big a deal; genetics isn't the sole factor in personality, yknow. Even in Star Wars they had to use something they called "flash-imprininting" to get a clone to have the same memories, skills, and personality.

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:15 PM
Wha? I dont think Jesus was black. In all those paintings hes white...or well appears white.

Sinkman34
07-17-2003, 04:16 PM
Jesus is a chic dude!

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:17 PM
he would be black just look at the skin tones of the people around that time

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:18 PM
Not black. Mixed maybe. Like the people of the middle east. But I dont think he would be black. (Im not racist or anything, I just dont think he was black).

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:27 PM
i just think he would be but does it matter

Liokae
07-17-2003, 04:28 PM
Yes, Jesus would have been Arabic. He's white in paintings because those paintings were done by Europeans.

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:29 PM
I know he would be Arabic, But thats not Black....

Liokae
07-17-2003, 04:30 PM
Indeed it is not.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:36 PM
yea so we know he's not white

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:37 PM
I know, but hes also not black....He Arabic. But Id still try to Assassinate him......

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:39 PM
yea it would cool to say u killed him

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:41 PM
Like in Jail. "Hey why are you in here?" Me, "I killed someone." The guy, "Really who?" "Jesus." "WHAT YOU ****ER GET HIM!"

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:43 PM
no it was i who killed him

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:47 PM
No! I killed Jesus! LOL thats is just a dumb statement!

Liokae
07-17-2003, 04:49 PM
Heck, there's lot's of guys in prison for killing someone named Jesus. It's just that it's usually reffering to some Spanish guy.

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:50 PM
Thats ture. It still would be pretty funny.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 04:57 PM
yea he mows my lawn

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 04:58 PM
Hahahahahahah! That would be fun. Make a army of Jesus's....

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:02 PM
your lawn would look great

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:03 PM
I hate my lawn. The little kids who live next door aways run on it. Im tempted to put mines all over my yard.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:06 PM
sounds like a plan to me

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:08 PM
I would like to see a few of the kids blown into tiny little kid chunks, but people are messy...

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:09 PM
we are sick people

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:11 PM
I know. I think Im sicker then you though....

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:18 PM
well your two years older then me so give me time.

Liokae
07-17-2003, 05:19 PM
You don't qualify as sick until you have a top 1500 rank in the Kill Everyone Project.

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:22 PM
Wha?

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:23 PM
You don't qualify as sick until you have a top 1500 rank in the Kill Everyone Project.


the what

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:24 PM
Yeah tell us. We are confused! And It takes alot to Confuse Kevinok and I.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:26 PM
yea i dont get confused lol

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:27 PM
We dont. I bet our combined IQ is more then 300.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:29 PM
what is your iq

Liokae
07-17-2003, 05:29 PM
The Kill Everyone Project: Modelling killing everyone in the world... one at a time.

Genocide has never been this easy! (Or featured a chat).

www.homokaasu.org/killeveryone

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 05:30 PM
Mine IQ is 178.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 05:31 PM
ah i see

mine is either 188 or 198 so were a combined almost 400

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 08:08 PM
Yeah see we could rule the world.

kevinok
07-17-2003, 08:15 PM
we are 2 smart for these people if u subtact are iq's bush would still be less then that number

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 08:17 PM
Yeah. But I would rather of Bush as president, then Gore. I hate Gore!

kevinok
07-17-2003, 08:24 PM
we need a third party

dogs dA BEST
07-17-2003, 08:32 PM
gore all the come on

Feuer frei
07-17-2003, 08:50 PM
That made no sence.

dogs dA BEST
07-17-2003, 08:54 PM
yea sorry that suppose to make sence i didnt do it right

kevinok
07-17-2003, 09:18 PM
nothing makes sence

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 03:19 AM
People make sence? YOU ALL LIE!!!

Zeta_Riticuli
07-18-2003, 04:54 AM
its sort of a good idea, but as most inventions it will get into the wrong hands and go out of hand

kevinok
07-18-2003, 03:39 PM
okay yea so cloning

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 03:55 PM
Who all voted No??

Zeta_Riticuli
07-18-2003, 04:25 PM
i didnt vote

kevinok
07-18-2003, 04:50 PM
i voted yes

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 04:51 PM
I know you did. I did to. I just wanna know who voted no.

kevinok
07-18-2003, 04:52 PM
well alot of people are against it

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 04:53 PM
People should DIE!

kevinok
07-18-2003, 05:01 PM
or just spontenuly combost

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 05:08 PM
Yeah that would be pretty sweet....

kevinok
07-18-2003, 05:23 PM
it's like

Bob: I don't think cloning is*Boom*
Kevin: haha *Points*

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 05:46 PM
That would be kinda fun.

kevinok
07-18-2003, 05:57 PM
if i ever made a movie something like that would happen

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 05:58 PM
Ive always wanted to make a porn flick. And have me as the only guy in the flick....

kevinok
07-18-2003, 06:00 PM
porn and chicken

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 06:02 PM
lol. Backyard s!uts 3.

kevinok
07-18-2003, 06:10 PM
maybe we should stop this now

Hand of the Castle
07-18-2003, 06:51 PM
Yes... You should...

kevinok
07-18-2003, 06:56 PM
yea it was getting alittle to "R" ish

Hand of the Castle
07-18-2003, 06:57 PM
Yep, we have little kids in this forum ya know!

kevinok
07-18-2003, 07:01 PM
yea little kids is redundent

Scalps r us
07-18-2003, 07:46 PM
yes, cloning can increase life spans and what not, but if some psycho gets their hands on it, they could make an army of millions. and why not, it would only take maybe thirty years. not to mention the fact that we're playing God. what's the purpose of cloning humans if we're just going to harvest them for organs anyway?

Hand of the Castle
07-18-2003, 07:48 PM
True, but a lot of individuals require certain organs, harvesting organs of clones is effective in the way that there is already a "bob" or whoever. However, I agree with the 'being god' thing.

Danielle
07-18-2003, 07:59 PM
We have been made as indivisuals and i dont think that someone should be able to clone as that would take away our indivisualism. I mean honestly would you want a clone of you walking arould living life?

Hand of the Castle
07-18-2003, 08:29 PM
Well, theoretically, you aren't making an exact clone when you clone someone as the cells that you clone someone from are older. So technically, you are still an individual, but only technically. However, your indivuality is being taken because the clone looks, talks, walks, etc. similiarly to you. Everything you do would most likely be the same if your clone did it. So... Yes, individuality is being taken to some extent. I would want a clone to do everything I hate, but I don't want to have two of me running around and me losing my individuality, however, I could increase productivity exponentially which is a good thing. Especially for my RP site which is to be completed.

Feuer frei
07-18-2003, 11:50 PM
yes, cloning can increase life spans and what not, but if some psycho gets their hands on it, they could make an army of millions. and why not, it would only take maybe thirty years. not to mention the fact that we're playing God. what's the purpose of cloning humans if we're just going to harvest them for organs anyway?

I knew someone was gonna say we would be playing god! ARGH simplitons! Think about this for on second, logicly. (Logic doesnt seem to be a big part of religion, EVER!) If we can save someones life, by say cloning people and harvesting there heart, isnt that worth it. Cause like people with religion say, "But clones wont have a soul." If they dont have a so called 'soul' then there would be no problem. As for cloning a army....Clones would cost to much to make an army...Hell it costs millions to clone a damned animal.

We have been made as indivisuals and i dont think that someone should be able to clone as that would take away our indivisualism. I mean honestly would you want a clone of you walking arould living life?

I would want onother one of me alive, HELL Id want 4 or 5 or me. Indiviuality, hhmm. Well lets see, no one really as that. Because people are always coping other people ALL THE TIME. I mean look at it. What are you wearing, what are you eat, driving ect ect. Its all the same! Indiviuality, Ha there is no such thing......

Hand of the Castle
07-18-2003, 11:58 PM
yes, cloning can increase life spans and what not, but if some psycho gets their hands on it, they could make an army of millions. and why not, it would only take maybe thirty years. not to mention the fact that we're playing God. what's the purpose of cloning humans if we're just going to harvest them for organs anyway?

I knew someone was gonna say we would be playing god! ARGH simplitons! Think about this for on second, logicly. (Logic doesnt seem to be a big part of religion, EVER!) If we can save someones life, by say cloning people and harvesting there heart, isnt that worth it. Cause like people with religion say, "But clones wont have a soul." If they dont have a so called 'soul' then there would be no problem. As for cloning a army....Clones would cost to much to make an army...Hell it costs millions to clone a damned animal.

We have been made as indivisuals and i dont think that someone should be able to clone as that would take away our indivisualism. I mean honestly would you want a clone of you walking arould living life?

I would want onother one of me alive, HELL Id want 4 or 5 or me. Indiviuality, hhmm. Well lets see, no one really as that. Because people are always coping other people ALL THE TIME. I mean look at it. What are you wearing, what are you eat, driving ect ect. Its all the same! Indiviuality, Ha there is no such thing......

You give very good points, but I think they're speaking theologically. They're speaking from the heart, so to speak. They speak with their beliefs.

Playing God is doing what god does. Making creatures. So techincally, in a theological way,(sounds weird I know) we are playing god. In another way you can look at it, we're playing god by making miracles. Replacing bad hearts and lungs. It's a very dubious topic to debate about... So I think I'll give my brain a rest for now.

Individuality isn't just what we wear, drive, eat, etc. It's how we look, how we see things, how we do things. A person who copies you doesn't see the world in your way. He doesnt' have the same parents(unless he's your brother or sister). He doesn't have the same experiences and values you have. You may have similiar morals, but it's almost always never teh same. There's always a little difference here and there.

Feuer frei
07-19-2003, 12:02 AM
There is no indivuality though, The government (of the US) as taken that away.

Hand of the Castle
07-19-2003, 12:57 AM
How so?

Uncle Sam Eagle
07-19-2003, 01:16 AM
magic wands and wizrds over the rainbow of magic- oh...umm....What were you saying?

kevinok
07-19-2003, 01:36 AM
the goverment trys to make us all the same

Hand of the Castle
07-19-2003, 02:07 AM
I guess that's true. They do try to make us all follow their command.

kevinok
07-19-2003, 02:13 AM
like schools with there uniforms

Feuer frei
07-19-2003, 01:18 PM
magic wands and wizrds over the rainbow of magic- oh...umm....What were you saying?

Thats just spam you moron. Dont post here again you moron. Yeah the Government is slowy molding us to be one. ...

Liokae
07-22-2003, 04:08 PM
like schools with there uniforms

Yknow, far more private schools have uniforms than public.

Solean
07-22-2003, 04:09 PM
Communist's wish, cloning is.

kevinok
07-22-2003, 04:22 PM
and whats wrong with Communist

Hand of the Castle
07-22-2003, 04:37 PM
Communism usually leads to the destruction or deterioration of a country because it is against human nature. We are greedy and selfish bastards who can't do jack... I'm sorry I had to say that but it's true to most people...

Liokae
07-22-2003, 04:39 PM
Correction: Communism *would* lead to a counries downfall. It's would instead of does because we've never had a communist country. They fall during the socialist phase.

Hand of the Castle
07-22-2003, 04:45 PM
They fall because someone wants more power than others and some jobs SHOULD pay more than others. I mean, lets say you get 5000 for every job. Janitor shouldn't get that much, doctors, etc should get more. Not fair is it? They'lll eventually get pissed, etc and you know what it'll lead to....

Liokae
07-22-2003, 04:55 PM
I agree it, wouldn't work. Doesn't change the fact that we've never actually had communism.

Hand of the Castle
07-22-2003, 04:57 PM
The soviet/russia had communism, but they too fell prey to its corrupting ways...

Liokae
07-22-2003, 04:58 PM
No, they had socialism. Their populace espoused the communest ideas, and the leadership claimed to, but they were still in the "socialist" part of the road that is supposed to lead to communism.

tlim
07-27-2003, 06:10 PM
i dont want 2 tokillanattacuses

ToKillAnATTICUS
07-27-2003, 06:11 PM
I do!!!!!! CLONE CLONE CLONE!

Vagrant
07-27-2003, 06:16 PM
Where did this topic come from?

ToKillAnATTICUS
07-27-2003, 06:17 PM
I don't know...lol

Namhet
07-27-2003, 06:47 PM
uhh... why i dont want a clone of me...

I wouldn't want to find out all the obnoxious things i do that everybody else already knows about but i dont... lol

But clones... well sometimes, cloning doesn't turn out right... kinda like photocopying... theres always one thats kinda missing something important.

Like a liver.

ToKillAnATTICUS
07-27-2003, 06:52 PM
I wouldn't want to find out all the obnoxious things i do that everybody else already knows about but i dont... lol Trust me there's a lot. haha jk

tiritaka
07-27-2003, 08:25 PM
i'm not sure about what i think of clones, but i think that our opinion doesn't matter because the scientists, with the power to create them, wouldn't tell us that they did clones if we declare we don't want them.......

ToKillAnATTICUS
07-27-2003, 08:34 PM
Freaky! :!:

OddLittleMan
07-28-2003, 12:20 PM
i want to clone my own, personal tokillanatticus - and use him to stick sharp objects in when im stressed

ToKillAnATTICUS
07-28-2003, 03:05 PM
Thats nice. I hope that comes true. :lol:

The First
07-29-2003, 07:41 PM
what about 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000 skyes

tiritaka
07-30-2003, 01:22 PM
that would suck, i wouldn't know what forum to frequent, or what forum is the best.........but the games would be finished in seconds........ :D

blackmagic24084
08-01-2003, 12:58 PM
Then travle through time and bring my parents back......

what happend to your parents

Rambo
08-04-2003, 10:55 PM
i think his parents died

CastleFreak04
08-05-2003, 12:37 AM
i dont think cloning is good.its like playing god..and u shouldnt do thatt

kevinok
08-05-2003, 12:44 AM
yea but what if you could make some one a heart or a lung or liver how many lives could you save

CastleFreak04
08-05-2003, 01:09 AM
well taht is still playing god...people ar emeant to die...if it doesnt happen like he planned then there is be an over population

Vagrant
08-05-2003, 10:28 AM
There will already be over population soon if you think about it CastleFreak.... a disease or something is bound to happen soon.

SaintsFury
06-28-2007, 03:08 PM
u dont understand the seriousness of cloning- i voted no. cloning yourself means that there would be two yous! i understand it would be nice to have someone go to school for u but wat would u learn from that?! u would have to hide your other self! lets say you were an only child, the other u would get attention too, not just u! VOTE NO FOR CLONING

DarkReality
06-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Holy. ####. This HAS to deserve an award! FOUR ####ING YEARS?! Did you pick the oldest, non-locked thread there is and revive it? And couldn't you have at least read the topic before posting ignorant #### like that?

What happened in the last four years? I mean, what happened to topics with well worded posts? What happened to people typing with correct grammar? I mean, compare Kevinok's or Feuer Frei's one-liners with the abomination that SaintsFury posted...

What do you want from me?
06-28-2007, 03:27 PM
u dont understand the seriousness of cloning- i voted no. cloning yourself means that there would be two yous! i understand it would be nice to have someone go to school for u but wat would u learn from that?! u would have to hide your other self! lets say you were an only child, the other u would get attention too, not just u! VOTE NO FOR CLONING
Dude, you are the most epic fail ever. A four year thread. Just wow.

SaintsFury
06-28-2007, 03:35 PM
i still say no

.sickling.
06-28-2007, 05:35 PM
Our current methods of cloning are so pathetic that all our clones fail to function properly, leaving them in a permanent, miserable, sickly state. Through the process of birthing through cloning, a specific gene is left inactivated and causes these horrible afflictions.

e p
06-28-2007, 05:37 PM
I feel like an idiot for voting now.

This thread is 4 ####ing years old! I don't even know half of the people that posted here!

Liokae
06-28-2007, 07:26 PM
Wow... a thread so old, it had the biggest spammer the boards have ever known in it. *salutes in awe*