View Full Version : What is your belief in God?
zippydaspinhead
03-08-2006, 05:44 AM
They say that everyone belives in God or religion in a different way. I'd like you to vote in the poll and share your idea's on religion.
In brief, my beliefs in God are that he's real, he does watch over us, but he doesn't control just about anything.
I belive that the unviverse we are in is a training ground. We go through every life in this universe, from complex things like humans to simple things like bacteria, so that we can learn. God's roll is just to oversee everything, and provide advice. He doesnt affect people's chocies to be "good" or "bad" either.
Once we have gone through every life in the universe we are "complete" and we create our own unviverse and rule as its God or maybe team up with friends and do a Greek mythology thing.
undeadkillers
03-08-2006, 06:21 AM
true i picked the first one but i was going to pick "other"
Vagrant
03-08-2006, 07:47 AM
We go through every life in this universe, from complex things like humans to simple things like bacteria, so that we can learn.
Bacteria don't exactly have intelligence... all they do for "intelligence" is acquire new DNA.
Once we have gone through every life in the universe we are "complete" and we create our own unviverse and rule as its God or maybe team up with friends and do a Greek mythology thing.
I never did get the whole "become your own god" thing. Maybe it's just me, or does it seem more like a mortal desire rather than an immortal being's desire?
I'm a Christian. I think God has a plan for all, but he's waiting until the time that was prophesied is correct. So, for the moment, he does not directly influence the world, but rather, indirectly changes things.
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 07:58 AM
Bacteria don't exactly have intelligence... all they do for "intelligence" is acquire new DNA.
I never did get the whole "become your own god" thing. Maybe it's just me, or does it seem more like a mortal desire rather than an immortal being's desire?
I'm a Christian. I think God has a plan for all, but he's waiting until the time that was prophesied is correct. So, for the moment, he does not directly influence the world, but rather, indirectly changes things.
I believe that God does not influence the world at all after He first created it. Instead, He modifies the composure of the base material He used to start the big bang (yes, I realize that it means nothing to modify an infinitely dense dot, but maybe to God it does). Because He is outside of our 4-dimensional world, time is irrelevant to Him and therefore he can change how the world turns out based on our prayers. That's my theory, even if I explained it horribly.
I don't like the idea that God would make all these physical laws and then intervene in arbitrary points of space-time.
Teh~GD
03-08-2006, 09:44 AM
If God really did have a "plan" for us, we wouldn't have free will. Look, according to the Bible God is all-knowing. Think about that for a second. He would know everything you do before you do it, he would know what decisions in life you will take. So free will and all-knowing make a paradox.
ToothMachine
03-08-2006, 10:43 AM
This John Lennon quote pretty much sums up my views about God:
I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.
pemdas21
03-08-2006, 11:05 AM
I have a hard time believing that there could be a "supernatural being"...
Kevim
03-08-2006, 01:09 PM
This John Lennon quote pretty much sums up my views about God:
I've seen that quote before, I just didn't know it was from John Lennon. Well, The Beatles are gods, so I geuss he knew what he was talking about. :)
Anyways, I'm a Buddhist, so I don't believe in god, or any god for that matter.
He is a fake. If thier is a god why do kids get rapped?
Wow what a religion crisis!!! too many topics!
Yeah they all belong in the debate club.
STICK.FU.MASTER.
03-08-2006, 04:51 PM
I pick the first one, but I think he is more than just all powerfull and has plans for everyone.
uh... no comment just whats with the problems in god not existing... yeah why do kids get raped god? (lol)
No spamming(dont use lol).
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:09 PM
If God really did have a "plan" for us, we wouldn't have free will. Look, according to the Bible God is all-knowing. Think about that for a second. He would know everything you do before you do it, he would know what decisions in life you will take. So free will and all-knowing make a paradox.
No, predictability does not deny free will. If you spend enough time with a person, you will learn their quirks and habits, and will be able to predict what they will do in any given situation to a certain degree of accuracy. Logically, an infinitely intelligent God would be able to predict this to a perfect degree of accuracy.
He is a fake. If thier is a god why do kids get rapped?
People rap because they think it sounds cool. That has nothing to do with religion.
People *rape* each other because the devil tells them to. If there is no God, then all the good in the world is unexpainable. Religion is more complicated than you'd think.
Anonymous
03-08-2006, 05:09 PM
There is a substantial chance that he is up there, I believe.
Jshall
03-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Lets all just face it. God is not real.
No, predictability does not deny free will. If you spend enough time with a person, you will learn their quirks and habits, and will be able to predict what they will do in any given situation to a certain degree of accuracy. Logically, an infinitely intelligent God would be able to predict this to a perfect degree of accuracy.
People rap because they think it sounds cool. That has nothing to do with religion.
People *rape* each other because the devil tells them to. If there is no God, then all the good in the world is unexpainable. Religion is more complicated than you'd think.
Well why doesnt god prevent rape?
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:15 PM
Well why doesnt god prevent rape?
That's the point of free will.
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:18 PM
How was god made?
By definition, an infinite being cannot have been created.
EDIT: As for *when* God was created, he is outside of our 4-dimensional world. He is timeless, by our definition of time, because otherwise he would be in our universe, which is finite.
Well if he was just "here" why couldnt have the world and all its anhabitance.
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:41 PM
Because scientists tell us that the universe
a) Had a beginning
b) Is finite in size
Therefore, it isn't infinite in any way, and is not forever.
Unless you don't believe the scientists or the church, in which case I can't help you.
How do you know they werent rong. And they word was probably just begun by balls of gas and that sort.
Blixinator
03-08-2006, 05:44 PM
There is no god. There never has been.
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:45 PM
How do you know they werent rong.
Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh! If the scientists are wrong, then who is right? Are you saying that there is not truth and everything is an illusion.
And they word was probably just begun by balls of gas and that sort.
I didn't deny a scientific creation. That has nothing to do with that thread.
Masterchief007 is correct and yes everything is an illusion.
JoeyG
03-08-2006, 05:49 PM
Masterchief007 is correct and yes everything is an illusion.
Okay, in that case religion is "correct" because it is the simplest illusion and therefore easiest to understand.
drewt781
03-08-2006, 05:52 PM
actually, there are many who think that religion is more complicated than evolution theory for example.
I'm not too interested in this argument though...considering that I just took a baseball off the top of my head an hour ago...
No religon is "incorrect" this conversation is over because quarrling over this is just stupid. Go about your own buisness. But always remember god isnt real.
zippydaspinhead
03-09-2006, 06:00 AM
Lets all just face it. God is not real.
I think it hilliarious that you say this, because your avitar is the symbol of the Kights Templar, one of the most religous groups of time.
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