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jason
01-20-2004, 08:15 PM
Well, i have to do a project at school where you hjave to talk about a subject. I have decided to pick ghosts.
Please put in your input (yes or no) and back it up if you could :)

Also if you could include any "experiences" you may of had or tories/ facts you know about ghosts :) .

I need all of the information i can get.
If i make a good enough speech i get to present it in front of a few High Schools and in front of what they call a "surprise" Thank you.
Rememebr to vote. I need all you input.

kevinok
01-20-2004, 08:17 PM
When is this due?

jason
01-20-2004, 08:46 PM
In 2 weeks....

kevinok
01-20-2004, 08:57 PM
Well I just happen to have seen this article. http://www.rochester-citynews.com/gbase/Gyrosite/Content?oid=oid%3A2330

jason
01-21-2004, 03:47 PM
Thanks :) That helped me out a lot :)

Ed1 Teh Awsome
01-21-2004, 04:10 PM
well i think ghosts are real. This is a story my grand ma told me happended to her.

She says it was in 1994 about a week after my grandpa had died. She says she was sleeping and when she woke up that there he was. That he was looking at here and said "adios (goodbye)" She stood up and looked again but there was nobody there.

kevinok
01-22-2004, 12:10 AM
Well there is a common belief that undertimes of extreme stress people can do amazing things. For example people can sometimes tell when some one dies, before they are ever told. And many times they see that persons ghost.

Freddy
01-25-2004, 09:25 PM
of course ghosts are real. I mean duh! they are spirits that couldn't make it to heaven or hell. they have either lost their way or haven't finished a task meant to be completed when they were alive. and sometimes because the task wasn't completed, they become angry and tend to 'haunt' ppl or places.

cardplayer
01-26-2004, 09:11 PM
Sorry.... it won't let me vote.... but anyway, I don't believe they are real. I have never seen one, and I have never seen more than a mere blob on a picture that they claim is a ghost.... I think once you die, you see, feel, hear, taste, and smell nothing. It isn't even black, when you think about it, because you can't see. I think the electrical charges that run your entire body just dissipate.... and as far as the light at the end of a tunnel, how would you know that it exists? The "near death experiences" could be mere hallucinations.... the only way to tell would be to die, all the way, but then, you aren't in a very good condition to talk about it, are you? I'll probably catch hell for this, but I figured it was necessary if you are getting responses from everyone.... and if you need a name (highly doubtful), use Raymond, it is my first name.

kevinok
01-26-2004, 10:25 PM
I use to not believe in ghost, but I also do not believe in heaven or hell so I figure that there must be something else, and ghosts seem to work for me.

bobeta
01-27-2004, 01:35 AM
i really don't i believe when you die your just...dead. Nothing more.

HellSing
01-28-2004, 11:25 AM
Careful there Shadow00, not all of us believe in heaven or hell. Opinions are good, but if your such an ego maniac that you think everything you believe is right, then keep talking like that. I think ghosts are fake. What I see, hear, taste, and touch I believe. Ive never heard, seen (You get the point) a ghost. Humans have overactive imaginations, and they see things. These are ghosts of mind, and they haunt everyone. Alas, I have never seen a real ghost, therefore my post is over.

Personal verdict; Ghosts are nothing but what the imagination makes them.

corkysucks22
01-28-2004, 02:09 PM
i believe that ghosts exist

there was this girl that was murdered came back and told her murderer that she forgave him. so wouldnt that be a ghost

that was like a religios person that came back
just an example


y cant anyone vote

cardplayer
01-28-2004, 05:00 PM
Uhhhhh...... he would have been the only one to "hear" her, right? So, he might have simply tried a last ditch effort to avoid the death penalty or whatever......

Living_Vipe
01-28-2004, 05:13 PM
i'm with shadow on this one but i have a question for him don't u think the ghost who go to hell.

i don't belive in hell only heaven

cardplayer
01-28-2004, 05:16 PM
Uh hu....... so, does everyone go to heaven? Or, do some things just dissapear? Because I'd much rather just dissapear if everyone goes to heaven.......

corkysucks22
01-28-2004, 05:44 PM
from my last post he saw her after his sentence or whatever and it was like 20 years then he became a huge religious dude after that


and canm i ask how you can believe in hell but not heaven

Freddy
01-28-2004, 06:03 PM
u ppl and your wied beliefs. there r but 3 choices. heaven, hell, or being a ghost. If I cant get to heaven I would want to be ghost. As long as I dont go to hell. I mean duh! has u seen the south park movie? Satan is gay. and sadam is there with and incredibly sqeaky voice. I would never want to go to hell.

corkysucks22
01-28-2004, 07:52 PM
i believe in purgatory where if you are good but not really good you go there and its like hell but you know that one day you will go to heaven

cardplayer
01-29-2004, 07:29 PM
Uhhhhhh....... first of all, that would make me a Satanist, which I'm not........ and where do you get the idea I believe in Hell and not Heaven? I don't believe in either.

The First
01-30-2004, 11:09 AM
Careful there Shadow00, not all of us believe in heaven or hell. Opinions are good, but if your such an ego maniac that you think everything you believe is right, then keep talking like that. I think ghosts are fake. What I see, hear, taste, and touch I believe. Ive never heard, seen (You get the point) a ghost. Humans have overactive imaginations, and they see things. These are ghosts of mind, and they haunt everyone. Alas, I have never seen a real ghost, therefore my post is over.

Personal verdict; Ghosts are nothing but what the imagination makes them.

Don't tell shadow that opinions are good and then go and call him an egomaniac. That's contradicting yourself, a sign that you have no clue what you're talking about. And you don't sound too modest yourself.

Have you seen the pyramids? In person, I mean... pictures can be faked, and pictures of heaven and hell exist, which are of course fake, since no one can really take a photograph of hell... Have you touched the pyramids? Have you smelled them or... tasted them? No, and if you have, replace "pyramids" with "a building in northern Uzbekistan". But I'd bet they exist.

All this with heaven and hell and ghosts... is it really that hard to believe that we just... go away? We just cease to exist? We no longer think, feel... anything? Our "souls" don't go anywhere... we simply die, and that's that... why does everyone try to explain it with supernatural things like ghosts or heaven or hell, or resurrection and all that hibbeldy-doo.

cardplayer
01-31-2004, 09:31 AM
Wow........ someone who put my idea into perfect wording. Well, I mean, it's not my idea, but what I believe in.......


OFFTOPIC: What does Eaubei mi mean?

The First
01-31-2004, 06:05 PM
It's a strange spelling for "obey me". I don't know what I was thinking when I made it... it really has no meaning (no, i'm not sadistic and nothing else your twisted minds may think), I'm just too unmotivated to make a new one.

huntershadow
02-01-2004, 09:03 PM
trust me on this i am what they'd call an expert
by first hand account i died for 14 minutes and it was freaky i was floatin for like what seemed an eterinity and then a room pooped up from no whwere and there i was

HellSing
02-02-2004, 01:18 AM
Right. You realised how bad everyone can lie on forums?
Perhaps you can tell the truth, but thats just illogical.

Vagrant
02-02-2004, 01:28 AM
trust me on this i am what they'd call an expert
by first hand account i died for 14 minutes and it was freaky i was floatin for like what seemed an eterinity and then a room pooped up from no whwere and there i was

That's an out of body experience, not a ghost story. There's a part of your brain that initiates out of body experiences (scientifically proven too). It obviously has to be there for a reason.

I've seen a blob floating in midair... not much really... just some shapeless thing moving through my room at a slow pace, and it went through the wall.

The First
02-03-2004, 07:34 PM
No, ghosts are not real, they are myths from (no offense) but the people who had really bad mushroom/acid trips

Vagrant
02-04-2004, 12:37 AM
Got any proof?

Then again, you can always ask,

Got any disproof?

This sort of thing is one that the scientific method cannot answer, and therefore, there's a reason ghosts are not a part of science. It's one of those things that are impossible to explain.

Homer43
02-09-2004, 10:58 AM
my social studies teacher, 20 minutes before kennedy was shot, asked his mom if kennedy was dead.

then again once he got a call on the phone and before his mom answered it he yelled Jimmy's mom died!.... and she did!

am i the only one who thinks thats strange?

The First
02-09-2004, 04:34 PM
Considering 6 billion people at the time kennedy was shot, the probability that one child asks this question before that close before his death is quite high, as children tend to ask all sorts of odd questions.

And that's more into the direction of looking into the future (which can spark an entire argument, so don't ask "is it possible". Please don't).

Honeycomb
03-08-2004, 10:54 PM
on google images i searched ghost and thres some real pictures of ghosts

Celundyl
03-08-2004, 11:20 PM
Keep in mind that some of the most "real" images can be fake. Not to say that ghosts or real or fake, but with the types of image editors on computers now, people with little talent for photography or image effects can press a few buttons on a program and get a spooky, realistic looking visage on their screens. Why some people do this, I know not...maybe friends tricking friends, or of boredom, or of any other odd reason that has driven people to do plenty of odd things before...but anyway, I don't think it's really possible to 100% determine the existence or nonexistence unless everyone in the world has an elaborate ghostly visit that is impossible to be feigned by projectors or imagination.

Uncle Sam Eagle
03-09-2004, 12:41 AM
I do belive that ghosts exist, and here's a theory that proves the ghost *MIGHT* just exist:

Your body produces energy, right? So when you die, where does the energy go?

TiTan182
03-09-2004, 05:17 AM
i'm with shadow on this one but i have a question for him don't u think the ghost who go to hell.

i don't belive in hell only heaven
same here with the hell/heaven thing.Ibelieve in spirits,not ghosts.

h00pla
03-12-2004, 07:01 PM
i believe evryone has a spirit, when we die it leaves our body. This has even been proven, in retrospect. They studied 100 bodies just as they died and when they died 21 grams couldn't be accounted for. that is to say, so many grams were lost but 21 grams had no reason to disappear

¿CRAZYØ¿
03-12-2004, 07:41 PM
Besides Heaven and hell there is pergatory which is where spirits stay to finish something that they have not finished or so God can decide where they go. I believe the spirits in pergatory are "Ghosts" So basically I am not saying yes or no.

h00pla
03-12-2004, 09:41 PM
purgatory is between heaven and hell and is the place for judging borderline souls, that is to say those souls with nearly equal good and bad, read pierce anthoy's incarnations of immortality, i like his view on it

unicycler
03-13-2004, 12:35 AM
I don't really know what to say, I mean alot of people have alot of different views. The only thing that I really have to say is that I belive that every soul goes to either heaven or hell and there is no inbetween.

Fiz
03-31-2004, 10:59 PM
Hey guys, long time no talk! Hope I haven't been forgotten...hehe...

I just have a couple of things to say on this. In regards to the proof/disproof idea, I agree that you cannot say with a guarantee that ghosts exist or not if you have no proof that they exist, or proof that they don't. Simply put, as it was mentioned already, there is no way to really prove or disprove this idea. I don't think its wise to say "ghosts don't exist, stupid" or whatever, because unless you can physically prove it, your opinion is as good as my DSL modem's stance on the subject.

As far as purgatory is concerned, I don't know...if you believe that God is infallable and is supreme over anything in this world, why would there need to be a stage where souls have to go to be judged? To go to an intermediate phase between heaven and hell and lingering there for others to "see" your presence requires a certain time frame. Why would God need time to judge if he is above all else in this world, and time is of no essence to Him? That's the only problem I have with that argument, being religious myself.

To comment on the whole "your body gives out energy" idea, in a way you are right in that your body does give off energy (heat, for example). But think of it as a light bulb. Once you turn it off, it doesn't produce any more energy. This is a topic in physics that, as some of you know, I could ramble on about, but it has nothing to do with this topic. Hopefully that answers the idea that was put out in that regard. :) Your body gives off energy, and when you die, that energy doesn't have to "go anywhere", because the energy your body gives off right before you die has already been given off. Once you die, there is no more energy being created, hence, no energy is produced that has anywhere to go.

All I have to say regarding the human soul is that I sincerely hope (as others here have said) that there is something to this life than what we see. I do believe in evolution and religion (in that God created evolution), so I guess I believe that the human body and reproduction work too well to be an evolutionary coincidence. Again, not to do with this topic, but just my opinion.

There's my stance on this subject. Thanks for reading!

The First
04-01-2004, 11:13 AM
And furthermore, the 21 grams that disappeared can disappear through a variety of ways:

The body, once it dies, begins to decompose naturally.

You constantly gain and lose weight when you eat something, drink something, and so on. 21 grams may have been a the coke that someone had just gotten rid of :-p

The scale used to measure him was wrong :-)

Fiz
04-01-2004, 12:14 PM
I don't know much about dead bodies, but I do know that after you die, your body releases a lot of internal gas. I would say that this has something to do with the 21 grams as well.

Rob97
04-04-2004, 12:51 PM
Hey, i think it might be true. When you look at the big picture, ghosts are just spirits that wader the earth. I dunno about about all the "Boo" BS but it can quite possibly be true.

~Darn, my brain hurts~

Fiz
04-04-2004, 01:42 PM
From the scientific side of things, there are lots of particles that most common people don't even know about that do not interact with normal matter at all. For example, neutrinos are released from the Sun at such an alarming rate that at any given time, there are trillions of neutrinos passing through us. We can barely detect them, and they do not show any signs of being present. In this case, why are ghosts so hard to believe? Oddly enough, science has the tendency to disprove ghosts rather than to prove them.

The First
04-04-2004, 05:24 PM
Random question, now that you mentioned neutrinos: I heard of an "experiment" in the Arctic or Antarctic regions, in which scientists attempted to catch neutrinos using a large surface of something or another that apparently shows that a neutrino passed through it (yes, now wasn't that a vague description :-p) How come some neutrinos are caught and most of them aren't? Or did I confuse something and were they trying to catch something else, I figured you might know these kinds of things, and no one's really too interested in ghosts anymore :-D

Fiz
04-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Hmm, I'll have to look into that. I haven't heard of anything like that, but then again, I don't know all the happenings regarding neutrinos, since its still a developing idea.

I do know that there are places of research in abandoned mine shafts where neutrinos are supposedly being detected. The reason why scientists check there is because on the surface of the Earth, there are too many things that would interfere in the detection process...my guess would be cosmic rays and what not.

Anyways, you have to go deep down into the Earth's surface where there isn't much interference. I believe the detection process has to do with a chemical reaction with the neutrinos and elements found down there (something to do with radioactive substances and half lives...I'm not too clear on it, as I'm not chemist or nuclear physicist) in the mine.

The answer to your question as to why some neutrinos are caught and some aren't is simple. We simply do not have the technology to efficiently detect the reactions caused by neutrinos colliding with other subatomic particles. There are instances when we can observe the reaction, but it happens so fast and on such a small scale that it is almost impossible to confirm anything at this point. Perhaps in the future we will be able to detect these things, but as for now, it simply falls on the realm of probability theory.

jamaica0535
07-27-2004, 05:34 PM
i think there real. have any of u eevr heard of vlad the impaler. a.k.a dracula.well one of my moms friends went to translvania. and they went into his old castle. and evry pic. they took inside the walls turned out upside down. and it was a poloroid. oh and my cousins think that my grandmas hose is honted frome my grampa. because dorrs have closed for no reason

Morwin t3h Banninator
07-29-2004, 12:19 PM
Aren't nuetrinos what they call dark matter?

And as for ghosts...I do believe in the soul, but I believe in reincarnation. I think most souls move on again, but it could be possible for a soul to become stuck by some trauma and be unable to move on, which could account for some "visitations."

However, some "ghosts," like the ones in old castles or in places where people have died, I think are more psychic residue than actual sentient spirits. Something happens in a place which leave a mark. People sense this as "ghosts."

DarkReality
07-29-2004, 01:14 PM
Hehe... I'm willing to bet that the Polaroid camera was broken. Or your mother's friend held the picture the wrong way. But I doubt a ghost managed to screw around with a camera. Pictures coming out upside down aren't all that strange, it just means some lense/mirror inside the camera wasn't working correctly.

leprachaun
07-29-2004, 10:12 PM
well this may be a long reply! ok here it goes
Happened to me: In my friends house awhile ago a girl died in the room next to his then wheneva we r up in his room and no ones home but us and all the windows r shut and there no wind his door slams shut then opens slow and keeps happenin!
Happened to my friend( not the friend in the above story)
ok so my otha friends grandmother died in his house and she still romes there and his mom accually talks to her ghost! feakey eh? and one night when my friends, friend slept ova my friends friend woke up and he was shakin and his finger nails wear bleedin then they just stoped bleedy!
EVERYTHING ABOVE IS TRUE! IT ALL HAPPENED SO YES I DEFFINATLEY THINK GHOSTS R REAL! WAT U THINK?

DarkReality
07-30-2004, 04:51 AM
I think you should take an english book for second graders and learned some damned grammar, spelling, and punctuation. I didn't understand a word you said.

leprachaun
07-30-2004, 07:56 AM
well sry but i kno grammer, spelling, ect. but online its easier to spell like this:
ya its ezer to spell like this

DarkReality
07-30-2004, 08:29 AM
I'd personally have a hard time purposely using a z instead of an s. And even if you're too lazy to spell correctly, I suggest you go lie down in your bed and do absolutely nothing anymore, as the seconds you save by typing like that amount to nothing. At all.

MercuryLime
07-30-2004, 08:57 AM
Aren't nuetrinos what they call dark matter?

And as for ghosts...I do believe in the soul, but I believe in reincarnation. I think most souls move on again, but it could be possible for a soul to become stuck by some trauma and be unable to move on, which could account for some "visitations."

However, some "ghosts," like the ones in old castles or in places where people have died, I think are more psychic residue than actual sentient spirits. Something happens in a place which leave a mark. People sense this as "ghosts."

I don't think nuetrinos are dark matter... :?

Honeycomb
08-03-2004, 05:40 PM
My mom saw her angel once.

Diamond187
08-04-2004, 01:53 AM
I really should know exactly what dark matter is, but I'm not entirely sure, so if someone has 100% confidence in their knowledge correct me. I believe dark matter is any matter which is undetectable using electro-magnetic radiation (or what you normies refer to as "light"). That means we basically have no way of detecting it at all, since EM radiation is about as precise as we can get on the detection level. It's basically theoretical stuff, because it's defined as something we can't discover right now, so, no, a neutrino (being a real, observable particle) is not dark matter.

SiduriCQ
08-06-2004, 11:38 PM
Ghosts are a figment of peoples' imagination. I believe in aliens, not ghosts :D

Max123
08-08-2004, 09:18 AM
I don`t believe in ghosts ,heaven or hell. Why, because I believe in reincarnation :D

DarkReality
08-08-2004, 11:37 AM
So what are souls? Especially when they wander between bodies? And how do you explain the phenomenon of a growing population? Doesn't that mean extra souls have to come from somewhere? Depending on how you define "heaven", it would have to exist, if only as a source.

stickhead34
08-08-2004, 12:45 PM
well i beleive in ghosts
once i was at the pool and right when i was jumping i saw a ghost
heres some pics and stories
www.sfogs.com
go to pictures

Locolan
08-10-2004, 11:00 PM
Check this game out, it's a ghost game.

http://newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=173654

Max123
08-11-2004, 04:48 PM
I played thet game before

Rob97
08-25-2004, 03:09 PM
I saw on the discovery channel, these guys went into the woods with poleroid cameras and took pictures on random spots. When the pictures developed they looked like ghoasts where floating all over the place. I gotta try that sometime...

Diamond187
08-26-2004, 04:12 PM
Ummm, that just sounds like they developed the pictures badly. If I tried to develop pictures myself, there would probably be white blobs all over them, too.

manoftheman6
08-28-2004, 05:36 PM
[quote="Fiz"]I do know that there are places of research in abandoned mine shafts where neutrinos are supposedly being detected. quote]

There is one of them about 100 km away from my town, in sudbury, ontario. iron mine.

DRUNKINGUNZ
08-28-2004, 06:09 PM
you ppl are teerible when jeasus resserect the sprits and every 1 don't be cryin when your still in the gorund or in hell..........

KiLLeR404
08-29-2004, 09:42 AM
ghousts are not real they are lke a cotios in somebodys mind like if you play a scarey game or somthing and you thing about it to much yuoull will think that you are seeing it and stuff .. or hearing it.

Fiz
09-08-2004, 06:51 PM
Hey y'all. I'm back from a busy summer! Went to Vegas and Disneyland with 3 friends as a road trip (2400 km of driving), which was the highlight of my whole summer. :)

Anyways, not to get off topic, but in regards to the neutrinos as dark matter question...

You can't really say whether neutrinos are dark matter or not, because its still being debated. However, from current research, a neutrino is considered as a dark matter candidate, which means it is considered dark matter unless it can be proven otherwise. A neutrino is extremely hard to detect, which defines it as a weakly interacting massive particle, (or a WIMP, for short).

There is still speculation as to whether a neutrino can be considered "massive" or even dark matter, because dark matter consists of a high percentage of the mass that appears to be "missing" from our Universe. Neutrinos don't make a significant contribution to the total mass of the Universe, so its kind of a troublesome question.

We still don't know much about neutrinos, so at this point in time, its kind of a non-issue.

As for the neutrino facility in Ontario, I'm assuming you're talking about the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory, right?

thelittlecrab94
10-20-2004, 01:47 AM
When i used to live at my old place my mom said she knew that there was a ghost there

kizzan
10-27-2004, 07:13 AM
I think ghost are real. I got money of one!

mbm_670
11-09-2004, 08:17 PM
majority rules. ghosts exist.

Diamond187
11-09-2004, 11:01 PM
If that were the case, Al Gore should be president...

DarkReality
11-11-2004, 08:47 AM
Should have been. To be correct. Now it'd have been someone else.

Diamond187
11-11-2004, 01:14 PM
Could've still been Gore, you never know.

xinjinbei
11-19-2004, 12:31 PM
ghosts can see and hear but no1 can see them or hear them they also cant do anything

c00lryguy
11-19-2004, 01:33 PM
prove it

xinjinbei
11-19-2004, 01:44 PM
erm...they just can fly around. walk througth walls and they cant move items

c00lryguy
11-19-2004, 01:50 PM
prove it

Blixinator
01-07-2005, 08:54 PM
One of my friends is a ghost

Jcapo23
01-10-2005, 07:47 PM
once i saw two evilish type ghosts i my room once. :evil: :twisted:

I was freaked out :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

nickprise7
01-16-2005, 10:59 AM
also maybe say somehting bout that new movie white noise and esp (where u talk with ghosts) hope it helps ya lol

Spiritkilla
04-06-2005, 09:49 AM
Well I belive that ghosts are real for when i was younger I was climbing up a mountain with my aunt i fell from the top. While lying there i did not feel cold or warm i felt fine but i saw a ghost dressed in hiking gear he came up looked at me and held his hand out i weakly held out my hand and when i touched his shots of pain came all over my body and i heard my aunt talking to me and i opened my eyes and my aunt was there but the ghost was gone.

DarkReality
04-06-2005, 03:26 PM
Well I belive that ghosts are real for when i was younger I was climbing up a mountain with my aunt i fell from the top. While lying there i did not feel cold or warm i felt fine but i saw a ghost dressed in hiking gear he came up looked at me and held his hand out i weakly held out my hand and when i touched his shots of pain came all over my body and i heard my aunt talking to me and i opened my eyes and my aunt was there but the ghost was gone.

That's what we call hallucinations. That pain is what we call... yea, pain after falling from something high up. Thanks for raising a dead post.

Sperry
04-06-2005, 03:56 PM
Your heart had stopped, your aunt gave you CPR. The pain was realizing it. XD

CombatInstinct
04-10-2005, 07:08 AM
sc-rew you all who think ghosts really exist. you must be mad

Luigibuster
04-10-2005, 11:12 AM
I belive too. We are'nt mad. There are lots of siting and facts on the subject, even though we cant actually prove their reality. The thing is, though, the people who dont believe can't prove that they are unreal. We have reached an impass.

furrylump
04-13-2005, 07:08 AM
Although we can neither prove nor disprove them like Luigibuster said, I don't think they exist. The closest i have had to a ghostly expierence is when i went for on a night tour of a place thats supposed 2 be called Port Auther. There was a few people taking photos of stuff and after the tour this one guy who had been on the tour with us showed everyone a photo of a guys image on the brick wall in a building. He was definetly not solid and no one had seen him. But, i think they had sketched a guy like that onto the wall in chalk, and he had been lit up in the camera flash. After all it had been VERY dark in that room and they wouldn't let us back in there when there was daylight around.

furrylump
04-13-2005, 07:17 AM
Oh yeah this was one of the stories the guide told us. On a tour just like the one we were taking the guide had been talking about the room we were in and he had his hand on the animal skull on the table. [Thats right there had been an animal skull on the table in that room, dunno why] The guide had felt the the skull twitch. He decided to ignore it. He felt it twitch again. He still ignored it knowing it would seem really like an act if he proclaimed to the people it was moving, and no one else had seen it. But it moved once again and several others did see it. They yelped loudly. Really freaked out now, the guide slowly lifted the skull, not knowing what he would find beneath....
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted:
Out came a mouse.

viper565
04-13-2005, 04:55 PM
Ghosts are like UFOs...they have so much pictures and stories and stuff like that that they have to be real.

Sperry
04-13-2005, 07:51 PM
I'll make a movie with a UFO in ten minutes. Got a paper plate?

catcherguy247
04-14-2005, 09:05 PM
what fruitcake belives in ghosts



i have a ghost in my house he likes to taunt my pet dinosaur

noobpwner1
04-14-2005, 09:10 PM
what fruitcake belives in ghosts



i have a ghost in my house he likes to taunt my pet dinosaur
Wow, you've got some great points in your argument.

catcherguy247
04-14-2005, 09:17 PM
if there really were ghosts i would have caught one by now... like with a big friggin fishing net

Woolfenstien
05-12-2005, 02:59 PM
I kind of belive in ghosts... Because in when I try to sleep, Somthing taps my window. My window is on the second floor of my house and theres nothing to hit my window... apart from birds enjoying a spot of kamikaze, but that would be unlikely and my window would be scratch. Whitch it is not. And sometimes when I'm on the kahzi (toilet, bog, ect) my pile of magazines fall off the dresser for no reson what so ever... Or I'm hallucinating...

DarkReality
05-12-2005, 04:39 PM
Or you should lay off the drugs.

Things tap on your window when wind blows against it. Do you have a tree infront of your house? Any high cliffs or other raised surfaces, from which small stones could be blown onto your window? Do you have kids in the neighborhood trying to get your attention?

And magazines tend to fall over if they lose their balance. And that happens quite often with a pile of paper. Especially when you're in an adjacent room, possibly causing vibrations in the walls which then vibrate the dresser which then makes the magazines fall.

Or you'll die in seven days.

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Sorry.... it won't let me vote.... but anyway, I don't believe they are real. I have never seen one, and I have never seen more than a mere blob on a picture that they claim is a ghost.... I think once you die, you see, feel, hear, taste, and smell nothing. It isn't even black, when you think about it, because you can't see. I think the electrical charges that run your entire body just dissipate.... and as far as the light at the end of a tunnel, how would you know that it exists? The "near death experiences" could be mere hallucinations.... the only way to tell would be to die, all the way, but then, you aren't in a very good condition to talk about it, are you? I'll probably catch hell for this, but I figured it was necessary if you are getting responses from everyone.... and if you need a name (highly doubtful), use Raymond, it is my first name.
i know this is late
Dear Raymond,
When you die, i believe, your mind (spirit) goes beyond and boundaries. Nothing can keep you down. Like in some peoples dreams of...flying through the cosmos for instance they dont just see one area....they see all around....everything. And electricity never goes away it simply changes form.
As far as "the light at the end of the tunnel" goes, there is no answer.
I believe that the spirit world and the Earth are crossed........completely overlapping.
Earth is for the living.
Heavan is for the believers, and true love.
Hell is where people who's minds are clouded by misjudgement, and the haters, and doubters.
If you doubt god you dont go to Hell. When you are darker and gods love has faded and the light of love is gone. That is Hell. Hell is what you make it.

All god does is love. Trust his intentions and you can reach any boundary.

This is all my educated opinion. Like an educated guess. Except i derive it from other beliefes.

peace out *******!,
GeoWgE

PS. ghosts are real. They manifest and....demanifest. Not necessarily on purpose. Some ghosts seen may be called "earth-bouned" but in fact they are just conflicting and didnt "demanifest"

the mind is powerful and can create halusinations. I dont believe what ive seen is one. My grandfather died befor i was born. In '78 or '83 i think. Ive seen him a total of 3 times over th past four years. Only seen about 7 pictures of him. He was dressed in different clothes than in the pictures.
One of them was all white. He was simpering. I had chills. Then he dissappeared.

AHHHH a Ghost!!!

chejrw
05-13-2005, 08:14 AM
wow, the ghosts of this thread are totally going to haunt you guys.

You raised the dead!

Woolfenstien
05-13-2005, 09:03 AM
Or you should lay off the drugs.

Things tap on your window when wind blows against it. Do you have a tree infront of your house? Any high cliffs or other raised surfaces, from which small stones could be blown onto your window? Do you have kids in the neighborhood trying to get your attention?

And magazines tend to fall over if they lose their balance. And that happens quite often with a pile of paper. Especially when you're in an adjacent room, possibly causing vibrations in the walls which then vibrate the dresser which then makes the magazines fall.

Or you'll die in seven days.
Theres no trees infront of my house as the nearest one is in the graveyard oppisite my house. And no cliffs are near me either. And kids can't climb vertical brick walls >_<. But the magazines fell over as soon as my stereo starded playing my music, so you were right about one thing :)

DarkReality
05-13-2005, 10:57 AM
And kids can't climb vertical brick walls

But I'm sure they can THROW pebbles. Silly.

Wurmy
05-13-2005, 02:43 PM
Nope, sorry, never had any encounters with any of them, and it all sounds like rubbish to me. :/

Woolfenstien
05-14-2005, 03:17 AM
As in my original post, I kinda said my window is not scratched. And I found it was only heater pipes in the floor 'cranking'. Don't ask me how I thought it was my window...

Moppety
05-14-2005, 04:32 AM
i don't think ghosts are real, some stuff happened to me that can be ghosts but i think there's a more logical explenation to any one of them than ghosts.

Woolfenstien
05-14-2005, 05:03 AM
I think youre right as well, Moppety as all the scary stuff thatv has happend in my life had a logical, belivible answer.
And Rammstien rule

Moppety
05-14-2005, 05:18 AM
i only believed in ghost when i was a little kid and didn't know anything about nothing so i couldn't explain all this scary stuff.

[offtopic] yes they do [offtopic]

Woolfenstien
05-14-2005, 08:09 AM
I think thats where my beleief in ghosts came from aswell. The window thing was quite freaky when I was seven...

Mikeh
05-15-2005, 05:45 PM
I think thats where my beleief in ghosts came from aswell. The window thing was quite freaky when I was seven...

gohsts are real but not BOO gosts just dead people floating around you know just chilling out doing whatever... LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

dastardly_fiend
05-15-2005, 06:34 PM
I have to wonder. I stayed with my friend in her supposedly haunted house when we were little, and everytime we moved this one pen, it would fall in the exact same position a few minutes later. Like, pointing the same direction and the same spot and everything, no matter what way we laid it on her desk. It was creepy.

Plasmapistol
05-15-2005, 06:36 PM
Well heres my belief.

People who have unfinished business on earth, or cant bear to leave for wherever they go without a loved one and stuff such as this end up stuck between that place where the dead go and the world, stuck as ghosts. If it is unfinished business they must wait until this business is resolved. For example, say someone murdered that person, they may be waiting for the guy who murdered him to die or have something bad happen. Ghosts, even though they are dead still need life-force to be sustained. So they take the life from the earth, which explains why ghosts always live in places where there are dead trees and such.

Well thats what i believe

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-15-2005, 08:12 PM
earth bound ghosts. and life force is the kinetic energy still sustained after death.

Sticky_Dude
05-22-2005, 01:04 AM
ghosts don't exist...

yellowduck
05-22-2005, 01:25 AM
I don't belive in ghosts. There is no evidence they exist.

Matt
05-22-2005, 10:08 AM
ghosts arnt real or at least i dont belive in them...... but on the other hand dont even believe in god sooo i gusse ill just shut up now

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-22-2005, 01:03 PM
ghosts don't exist...
if ghosts dont exist, you dont exist...if you dont exist then god is nothing....love is nothing....we are all pawns that were born during a game of chance.but they do exist. all of you are basing this on what youve experienced. before making conclusions on "no evidence".....try researching it.


you'd be suprised.

Matt
05-22-2005, 01:19 PM
im just saying i dopnt believe in god, ghosts, santa, the easter bunny, the tooth farie or any thing else for the matter its phsyiclly impossible

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-22-2005, 01:28 PM
god isnt flesh and bone FOR THAT MATTER......he is spiritually possible.......and besides god is love.....and everyone has love in them...no matter how clouded their mind may be.

dastardly_fiend
05-22-2005, 06:32 PM
if ghosts dont exist, you dont exist...

Please explain.

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-22-2005, 11:07 PM
ghosts come from us....or rather we become them in the afterlife.....so if ghosts arent real we....wait...i can now see why that was so confusing...
it all really depends on if you believe in ghosts or the afterlife.
if you do then when you die....
im cofusing myself!!!!
sorry.

Matt
05-23-2005, 07:26 AM
when you die NOTHING HAPPENS you lay there and rot you dont think, see, hear nothing!!! one life is all you get no going to heaven or hell after no turning to ghosts ABSOLUTLY NOTHING HAPPENS TO YOU. so get over it and dont let an old believe make you stupid by cloading your mind into believing it

snoɯʎuouɐ
05-23-2005, 10:09 AM
what old belief.....this is my opinion...and that is yours.

Darcy!
09-18-2005, 07:04 AM
science has said that when you die, your brain stuff rises from your body and you can see yourself dead then you just keep rising. There was a guy that had a tumor. They shut down his body systems and drained his blood. They got out the tumor and got his body going again. When he became conscious again, he could describe all the tools used and what they were used for. He said he could see himself lying on the hospital bed during the operation.

Nicksss
09-18-2005, 08:08 AM
ghosts come from us....or rather we become them in the afterlife.....so if ghosts aren't real we....wait...i can now see why that was so confusing...
it all really depends on if you believe in ghosts or the afterlife.
if you do then when you die....
I'm confusing myself!!!!
sorry.

I'll try to.

In our afterlife when we die our spirit comes out of our body. ( I believe that your spirit is your emotions) It makes it's way up to Heaven.(or hell) So our spirit IS in fact OUR ghost. Is that what you wanted to say?

Blixinator
09-18-2005, 11:17 AM
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