Muslim Demographics

[Fabian920]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU)

Interesting watch, I am a bit skeptic about this matter, but most of the current information in the video is a fact.

So, basically people in Europe have better life conditions, health care and entertainment than in poorer countries. So, they decide to live life to fullest and not have any children.

Inhabitants of poorer countries, however, hope that one of their children ends up in Hollywood and sends them back money, that's why they go at it like rabbits.

I am not going to state the facts from the video, watch it.

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Inhabitants of poorer countries, however, hope that one of their children ends up in Hollywood and sends them back money, that's why they go at it like rabbits.

Before I watch, I have to say that's not true at all. A lot of these underdeveloped areas are still agricultural based so the people there need all the help they can get. Not only that, but their children become their own life insurance--someone to take care of them when they grow old.

People in highly urbanized areas, like European countries, don't have to have large families.

now to watch the video.

[Fabian920]

Before I watch, I have to say that's not true at all. A lot of these underdeveloped areas are still agricultural based so the people there need all the help they can get. Not only that, but their children become their own life insurance--someone to take care of them when they grow old.

People in highly urbanized areas, like European countries, don't have to have large families.

now to watch the video.


Of course that's not true, I was just being funny, or at least I thought I was. It's hard to live in the poor countries so parents try and get as many children so then they could be taken care of once the children are grown up.

[Dragon]

Seems like most of the stuff in irrelevance comes from i-am-bored.com links these days.

Anyways, the video may be telling the truth that the muslim population is rising but most of it is over dramatizied bullshit so the gospel church can get other's to fend off the "wave of muslims".

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Of course that's not true, I was just being funny, or at least I thought I was. It's hard to live in the poor countries so parents try and get as many children so then they could be taken care of once the children are grown up.

How was I supposed to know?

So the video was informative even though I knew most of the stuff. I take a social studies course that focuses on cultures and demographics and all of that.

What I didn't like was that it was biased, like it was saying that Islam is such a bad thing. Kind of funny how they talk about sharing the Gospel, although the Quran is almost exactly the same stuff. I remember doing an activity in social studies class last year where we had to read excerpts of scriptures and decide if they were in the Bible, Torah or Quran. The whole class, myself included, had said that the excerpts were from all 3 of the choices, but they were all from the Quran. I'm rambling here, but I'm trying to make a point. The religions aren't that different.

[poguemahon]

I watched half. "Christans, #### each other, so Haji doesn't win." It doesn't take into account atheists, Jews, Bhuddists, or any other large school of thought.

[Fabian920]

Yeah, the only part of the video that intrigued me was the whole taking over the Europe thing. I really have nothing against any religions.

It just seems silly that such great nations wouldn't leave behind a trail if the muslim reproduction keeps up at the same rate.

Seems like most of the stuff in irrelevance comes from i-am-bored.com links these days.

Anyways, the video may be telling the truth that the muslim population is rising but most of it is over dramatizied bullpoop so the gospel church can get other's to fend off the "wave of muslims".

I actually got it as an e-mail from a cousin in college.

I guess people convey the message that the video it trying to send us differently. What I was interested in was only the numbers and the results. I didn't care much for opinions of the makers.

[Commander747]

Of course that's not true, I was just being funny, or at least I thought I was. It's hard to live in the poor countries so parents try and get as many children so then they could be taken care of once the children are grown up.

It's not just that,Islam strongly suggests having children and considering most muslim countries are poor they do make alot of children.

But in a modern place like Turkey it's average 2 child per family.Who cares let the rich christians choose their way and it's consequences.The rich and mainly christian countries's population is decreasing and it's population ageing(Biggest example:Germany currently 80 million will be 64 million in 2050)

So basically: O.o

[Fabian920]

It's not just that,Islam strongly suggests having children and considering most muslim countries are poor they do make alot of children.

But in a modern place like Turkey it's average 2 child per family.Who cares let the rich christians choose their way and it's consequences.The rich and mainly christian countries's population is decreasing and it's population ageing(Biggest example:Germany currently 80 million will be 64 million in 2050)

So basically: O.o

Yeah, O.o my point exactly, it seems just amazing, ****ed up and unnecessary. Maybe the situation will change in the near future, at least that's what I am hoping for.

[DarkReality]

Anyways, the video may be telling the truth that the muslim population is rising but most of it is over dramatizied bullpoop so the gospel church can get other's to fend off the "wave of muslims".

It's actually not. Over the past decades there's been an strong influx in muslim populations in European countries. It's going to inevitably lead to politics being directed more towards muslims and from there, it's only a stone's throw from Sharia being instituted in Europe.

Not only are the high birth rates in islamic countries alarming, the low ones in western countries are even more alarming. Within 50 years, Germany's population will (if prognoses are to be believed) go back by 20 to 30 million people, which is a substantial amount of our 80 million. The social problems are also pretty devastating. A nation in which a good 60 percent of the people are above 65 (a realistic scenario in the future for some countries) are going to have severe trouble functioning properly. The only way they will function is by allowing more and more immigrants to do the necessary work (on top of the additional work caused by caring for the old and sick) and these immigrants will come from islamic countries.

I'm by no means a xenophobe, quite the opposite, but islamic countries aren't too well known for their democratic and neutral political systems and I'm not too keen on a muslim government.

I didn't actually watch the video, but I figured it'd be something along those lines.

[Tanktunker]

It's actually not. Over the past decades there's been an strong influx in muslim populations in European countries. It's going to inevitably lead to politics being directed more towards muslims and from there, it's only a stone's throw from Sharia being instituted in Europe.

In all honesty, my money is on Muslim Genocide in Europe.

[HungryMonkey]

Islam is a religion of peace

[Freddy]

As far as the US goes, I'm a lot more willing to bet we'll have more hispanics than muslims.

Also I really don't like that guy's tone in that video. He makes it sound like it's a plague.

[Blixinator]

Stopped at 3:24. It's just fear mongering by some racist christian who is worried that the scary muslims are gonna bomb him.

This is why I hate religion.

I want to see something about the Roman Catholic fertility rate.

[LizardRob]

Islam is a religion of peace

Sunni and Shi'ite.

[Freddy]

Sunni and Shi'ite.

Extremists. No different than the Catholic church durring the inquisition.
Most folk are good people.

[Fabian920]

Blix, if you mean Italy, they have the second smallest fertility rate.

Also, found something even more biased.

http://ushomelandsec.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/10/2665464-the-population-bomb-why-islam-worlds-fastest-growing-religion

[Blixinator]

"Population Bomb"
Yep, biased. Is the connotation of religion really so bad that they all have to revert to fear-mongering?

[DarkReality]

Islam is a religion of peace

What it is on paper and what it isn't doesn't change that extremist groups are getting more and more members :-/

[Tanktunker]

Sharia law is no peace law.

[Fabian920]

In all honesty, my money is on Muslim Genocide in Europe.

I doubt that it will happen, I mean few movements and maybe seldom beatings but nothing like genocide for we are all part of the world and how will all Islamic countries look at this? I mean, the motivation would be religious, because you guys aren't believing in Jesus we feel that you are a threat, so were going to kill you. If that's used I am sure there would be a war between Europe and all of the Islamic countries and a lot of blood will be shed.

[Tanktunker]

I doubt that it will happen, I mean few movements and maybe seldom beatings but nothing like genocide for we are all part of the world and how will all Islamic countries look at this? I mean, the motivation would be religious, because you guys aren't believing in Jesus we feel that you are a threat, so were going to kill you. If that's used I am sure there would be a war between Europe and all of the Islamic countries and a lot of blood will be shed.
The Islamic countries can go suck it, they don't hold a candle to the military might of any one large European country.
The motivation won't be religious, but rather the fact that you have millions of immigrants pouring in, complaining, holding protests, enforcing their will on the government and more recently burning shit down.
I'm certain that shit will go down within the next half century.

[Fabian920]

I still doubt that, mass deportation maybe? The least Europe could do is keep up its' image.

[DarkReality]

I'm certain that poop will go down within the next half century.

Assuming that Europe won't be mostly arabic by then, at least. Unless right wing nationalists gain control over a formidable militia (or even a military), I don't think anything like a genocide is ever going to happen.

I still doubt that, mass deportation maybe? The least Europe could do is keep up its' image.

Mass deportation? In Europe? Not even Italy will deport people, they just keep them locked up on some island in the Mediterranean. We'd never get away with deporting people based on their ethnicity, and especially not after the types we've been letting in up until now.

[Tanktunker]

Assuming that Europe won't be mostly arabic by then, at least. Unless right wing nationalists gain control over a formidable militia (or even a military), I don't think anything like a genocide is ever going to happen.
Nationalism is a populist concept, it isn't hard to gain considerable support given the right conditions and enough immigrants.
This has been proven at some point in time.