Hey, any Europeans want to meet me?

[Scornic]

Mods, if there's a better place for me to post this than spamcrap, please move for my benefit :D

As my trip to Europe draws near, I am seeing how unreliable other Americans are. It looks like I've got no one to tour Europe with, and my flight home is few weeks after my last class. Which means, I essentially can go anywhere in Europe, so long as I can get there by train/bus in a relatively short time, and as long as I can get back to Rome in time for my flight.

My last class is on June 28th, and I fly back on July 10th. So, if there's any Europeans here who want to meet me, now is the best time. I've got a lot of money saved for this trip, so I'm not going to be short on cash. (Doesn't mean I want to waste any). I'm really hoping to find some alternative to shipping the majority of my stuff home, then living out of a backpack for two weeks. I also think it would be really cool to meet some people from XGen.

Any takers?

[Aquamenti]

I'm not going to dance with you anyhow.

[Matt]

I'm not in Europe, come to Canada.

[Scornic]

I'm not in Europe, come to Canada.

Hey, I have layovers in Canada. Does that count?

[Aquamenti]

Wtf? I thought you're the girl next door.

[denacioust]

Ireland's not exactly accessible by train/bus.

[Sperry]

Where are those layovers? Canada is kinda...huge.

[Scornic]

Friday, May 22, 2009
American Airlines # <>

Tucson International (TUS) to Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW)
Departure: (TUS): May 22, 8:25 AM MST (morning)
Arrival: (DFW): May 22, 12:35 PM CDT (afternoon)
Class: Economy

Friday, May 22, 2009
American Airlines # <>

Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW) to Toronto Pearson International (YYZ)
Departure: (DFW): May 22, 1:40 PM CDT (afternoon)
Arrival: (YYZ): May 22, 5:40 PM EDT (evening)
Class: Economy

Friday, May 22, 2009
Air Canada # <>

Toronto Pearson International (YYZ) to Rome Intercontinental Airport Leonardo da Vinci (FCO)
Departure: (YYZ): May 22, 8:25 PM EDT (evening)
Arrival: (FCO): May 23, 11:00 AM CEST (morning)
Class: Economy

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Friday, July 10, 2009
Air Canada # <>

Rome Intercontinental Airport Leonardo da Vinci (FCO) to Toronto Pearson International (YYZ)
Departure: (FCO): July 10, 12:30 PM CEST (afternoon)
Arrival: (YYZ): July 10, 4:15 PM EDT (afternoon)
Class: Economy

Friday, July 10, 2009
American Airlines # <>

Toronto Pearson International (YYZ) to Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW)
Departure: (YYZ): July 10, 6:35 PM EDT (evening)
Arrival: (DFW): July 10, 8:55 PM CDT (evening)
Class: Economy

Friday, July 10, 2009
American Airlines # <>

Dallas/Fort Worth International (DFW) to Tucson International (TUS)
Departure: (DFW): July 10, 9:45 PM CDT (evening)
Arrival: (TUS): July 10, 9:53 PM MST (evening)
Class: Economy

[Tanktunker]

Ireland's not exactly accessible by train/bus.
If he has a Europass he can get to Ireland for free anyway.

[Fabian920]

If this was in summer I'd invite you over to russia. But seeing as it's not, I am not a taker.

[Scornic]

I'm pretty sure Summer Courses take place in the Summer.

June 28-July 10 is summer for America.

[Freddy]

I know of only 4 people here (from the top of my head) that's from Europe. Den (Ireland), Wolfy and Chimpy (England) and Dark Reality (Germany (I think)). Those guys are ancient though. I'm sure there's bound to be some new guys for across the pond that I don't know.

THEY OUGHT TO BE POSTING!

[Aquamenti]

If this was in summer I'd invite you over to russia. But seeing as it's not, I am not a taker. You need a visa to get to/out of Russia, right? So that would get kinda expensive for him.

I know of only 4 people here (from the top of my head) that's from Europe. Den (Ireland), Wolfy and Chimpy (England) and Dark Reality (Germany (I think)). Those guys are ancient though. I'm sure there's bound to be some new guys for across the pond that I don't know.

THEY OUGHT TO BE POSTING!

So you're saying you don't know me? Rubbish. I know you love me.

[Sperry]

3 hours isn't too too long of a layover, really. Maybe we locals could make a greeting party for you, and all go for some coffee?

[Scornic]

You know I can just "miss" my flight claiming I didn't know about timezones, and get a free ticket on a later flight.

It happened to me in Denver. I had to stay in a hotel.

Wait, I'd miss my connecting flight to Dallas. Would they give me tickets to another flight there too? Or would I have to buy new tickets..

[Commander747]

I'm European but no, i don't really want to meet you.

[DarkReality]

We should totally meet up and have wild sex.

Or just do stuff. I'm not quite sure what you had in mind for meeting up, I mean, you're probably not gonna ride for a few hours by train, stop by for lunch and leave again. I'd offer just coming to Rome for a weekend but seeing how I've already been twice, it's not so tempting.

I don't think it would be too creepy to hang out with someone 5 years younger than me anymore, though >_>

[Lui]

Say, how expensive are the train rides inside Europe? (e.g. Rome to Germany) Are they relatively cheap?

[DarkReality]

Not very. Although it depends, there are good deals between large cities (for example, there were several connections between large German cities for as little as 20 Euros last Summer, which is about as cheap as travel gets). But just blindly buying a ticket over the counter? That can be pretty expensive. You'd probably be better off flying.

[Spectral]

I know every Euro dude is gonna wussy out; I wouldn't bother asking.
If you ever come to NYC though I promise I'd meet you somewhere in Central Park or something. Probably wouldn't meet up with anyone else though.

[Tanktunker]

Say, how expensive are the train rides inside Europe? (e.g. Rome to Germany) Are they relatively cheap?
I dunno about Europe but a 1 hour ride from Zurich to Basel in Switzerland was a good 80 francs.
EDIT: No that was 2 tickets, but 40 francs for Zurich to Basel 2nd class is still alot D:
I know every Euro dude is gonna wussy out; I wouldn't bother asking.
If you ever come to NYC though I promise I'd meet you somewhere in Central Park or something. Probably wouldn't meet up with anyone else though.

Central Park, 2 am tomorrow, be there with copious amounts of jewelry.

[Scornic]

What about a train pass? Isn't it cheaper to do that, since I'll be there 7 weeks anyway?

Also, how old are you again? Since I'm going into my Junior year, virtually every acquaintance I have is between 19 and 23. I actually wanted to see Germany more than Spain or France. Not sure why, as Italy/Spain is my heritage, but if there's stuff worth seeing and a cheap way to get there, I might actually go in that direction.

The only problem is that my VISA might not cover Germany. I don't know what the rules are, but I think the VISA was needed because I'm taking classes, instead of just being a tourist.

[Tanktunker]

http://www.eurail.com/

[DarkReality]

If you've got a Visa into one EU country, chances are you can visit all of them. And even if you can't, then just check in at your embassy, a US citizen should have no problem obtaining one.

I'm not sure about train passes, the Interrail ticket I know is only available to semi-permanent residents (6 month stay before being allowed to buy it, I think?). As implied, I do very little long-range train travel, so far RyanAir has been pretty cheap when booked far enough in advance.

Wow, according to RailEurope.com, Rome to Frankfurt is just shy of 300 dollars. http://www.raileurope.com/ seems to be a pretty comprehensive guide on train travel in Europe.

[Scornic]

"We’re sorry, but some of your trips are not eligible for reservation until a later date."

I didn't realize you have to book so far in advance when taking a train... Let me check out plane tickets.

Edit: A roundtrip flight to frankfurt is ~$120. I can afford that. The question now is what I can do in Germany. Is there anything to do there, or would it be:
Get lunch, have a discussion about the pros and cons of Capitalism, then fly back to Rome.

I'll keep it in my options.

[Tanktunker]

"We’re sorry, but some of your trips are not eligible for reservation until a later date."

I didn't realize you have to book so far in advance when taking a train... Let me check out plane tickets.
That means you can't book so far ahead >.<

[a1b23]

"We’re sorry, but some of your trips are not eligible for reservation until a later date."

I didn't realize you have to book so far in advance when taking a train... Let me check out plane tickets.

Edit: A roundtrip flight to frankfurt is ~$120. I can afford that. The question now is what I can do in Germany. Is there anything to do there, or would it be:
Get lunch, have a discussion about the pros and cons of Capitalism, then fly back to Rome.

I'll keep it in my options.

If you're into WWII you could visit Berlin (could apply to Cold War era too).

[Tanktunker]

If you're into WWII you could visit sites like Auchwitz and Dachkow
Poland is no longer part of Germany, please update your maps accordingly.

[Joest]

If you ever come to NYC though I promise I'd meet you somewhere in Central Park or something. Probably wouldn't meet up with anyone else though.
I live in NYC and I wouldn't even consider that.

[a1b23]

Poland is no longer part of Germany, please update your maps accordingly.

Fixed, Sorry, the whole WWII thing made me clump non-german cities with Germany. Momentary lapse in thought process Tankhunter is correct.

[Scornic]

That means you can't book so far ahead >.<

Oh, right.

Still, $120 is better than $300.

RdD, if I come to Germany, I'm going to see if I actually like 'good' beer. What if I just spent the two weeks drunk?

[DarkReality]

Well, you wouldn't remember much, probably, but it would certainly be something to tell your grandchildren.

As to what you can do: mostly look at stuff. I'm not much of a touristy person, so I have no idea what kind of attractions Germany offers (apart from shitloads of castles and ruins). Anything we've got, the US probably has in bigger anyway. Your best bet would be browsing through a tourist guide.

[ManUpstairs]

I want castles as ruins! Where are my castles and ruins?

[Tanktunker]

I want castles as ruins! Where are my castles and ruins?
Alamo?

[Joest]

Yeah, but MUS lives in Alaska. That is probably the most inaccessible ruin in the whole US for him.

[Dragon]

Meet Rob.

I was only like an hour away from him last year when I went to London/Paris. I didn't meet him, though. Never even occurred to me.

[ManUpstairs]

Yeah, but MUS lives in Alaska. That is probably the most inaccessible ruin in the whole US for him.
Actually, I've been there. >.>

I have relatives in Texas.

Besides, I prefer GOOD castles and ruins. Alamo FTL.

[Tanktunker]

Well you can come to Mesada, the site of history's first mass suicide, if you come to Israel.

[K1CkA55]

Well, I'm not a taker either. Don't really want to meet someone off the internet and Birmingham is a shithole compared to other places you could spend money going to.

[Scornic]

Ok, so assuming I do visit Germany, would you want me to hang out in your area for like a week, or just visit for a day?

[Exe]

Jared, seriously. Imagine it, using Dragon as an example.

*Dragon drives an hour to a stranger's house* "Hey LizardRob, I'm Dragon, y'know? From XGenstudios?" "Hi..."

I would feel so awkward meeting someone from the internet, especially a forum. F all those dating websites, I don't know how they do it.

[Scornic]

Jared, seriously. Imagine it, using Dragon as an example.

*Dragon drives an hour to a stranger's house* "Hey LizardRob, I'm Dragon, y'know? From XGenstudios?" "Hi..."

I would feel so awkward meeting someone from the internet, especially a forum. F all those dating websites, I don't know how they do it.

How do you know my name?

Also, Vagrant and I decided to meet each other, and we've become great friends. Renting a house together for the next year even. (Vagrant used to be an admin. Basically like Chejrw.)

[Exe]

Spectral said it.

Hmm.... I would still be scared as hell to meet an XGen member. Especially... YOU.

Na, I'd be more scared to meet Kerry.

[Kerry]

=(

I have met people that I have met online. It is awkward for the first 5 minutes but then you get over it.

[Scornic]

So, this might be a bit more difficult. I told me dad, "I have a friend in Germany" and he started freaking out telling me about the dangers of internet, so I made up some story about a friend from a class who moved to Germany. I don't feel like explaining the difference between chatrooms and forums that you're an active member of for three years, when it takes him thirty minutes to figure out how to look at pictures of my dancing that I sent to him.

I wonder what he would say if he found out I met Hunter online.

[Exe]

I have met people that I have met online. It is awkward for the first 5 minutes but then you get over it.
I agree, but those first five minutes are nerve-racking; I can't bear it.

[Kerry]

So, this might be a bit more difficult. I told me dad, "I have a friend in Germany" and he started freaking out telling me about the dangers of internet, so I made up some story about a friend from a class who moved to Germany. I don't feel like explaining the difference between chatrooms and forums that you're an active member of for three years, when it takes him thirty minutes to figure out how to look at pictures of my dancing that I sent to him.

I wonder what he would say if he found out I met Hunter online.

Ha, my mother was the same way about 3 years ago. She has since figured out the internet is only 97% pedophiles and not 100%. She is now more comfortable when I tell her about friends I have met online.

[DarkReality]

So, this might be a bit more difficult. I told me dad, "I have a friend in Germany" and he started freaking out telling me about the dangers of internet, so I made up some story about a friend from a class who moved to Germany. I don't feel like explaining the difference between chatrooms and forums that you're an active member of for three years, when it takes him thirty minutes to figure out how to look at pictures of my dancing that I sent to him.

I wonder what he would say if he found out I met Hunter online.

You should totally tell him that I'm 38 and watch his head explode.

Isn't 18 a bit late for the "Interweb iz danejerus" speech?

[Scornic]

Well, he sent me some messages on MSN while I was gone. I don't think he bought my "from my class last semester" story.

(4/30/2009 3:26:13 PM) Barry: Jared,
(4/30/2009 3:26:34 PM) Barry: I want you to call your Godfather about traveling through Europe.
(4/30/2009 3:26:57 PM) Barry: I get the feeling that you do not realize how dangerous it can be to travel alone over there.
(4/30/2009 3:28:00 PM) Barry: Although you are incredibly smart I don't believe you are expecting to experience the preditory practices you will encounter over there.
(4/30/2009 3:28:19 PM) Barry: Please call him at <>.
(4/30/2009 3:29:25 PM) Barry: I really would like you to travel with a partner over there. However, if you insist on going it alone, I think you'd better hear what goes on over there from someone who has been there and done that.

[Kerry]

Lols. Its going to be like from Taken. Don't worry Jared, if you get kidnapped and sold as a sex slave... I'll buy you... >.>

<.<

[Scornic]

Lols. Its going to be like from Taken. Don't worry Jared, if you get kidnapped and sold as a sex slave... I'll buy you... >.>

<.<

Well, in that case... No need to find a travel buddy :D

Edit: This thread is now about my father being irrational.
(7:49:24 PM) Barry: Did you get my earlier msn to call your Godfather regarding travel in Europe?
(7:50:26 PM) Jared: Yes I did
(7:50:38 PM) Jared: It's not like I'm not making an effort to find people to travel with
(7:50:56 PM) Jared: All of my friends are too poor to go, and no one from the Orvieto program wants to travel with me.
(7:51:14 PM) Barry: be that as it may
(7:51:30 PM) Barry: you should still call your Godfather to be prepared to travel.
(7:51:56 PM) Barry: Also it may change your ideas about where and how to get from place to place
(7:52:14 PM) Barry: he traveled much as you planned and he is a prettty street wise guy
(7:54:41 PM) Barry: I consider some kind of organized tour!
(7:54:55 PM) Jared: Paying for a two week tour guide?
(7:54:58 PM) Jared: ...
(7:55:12 PM) Barry: but he has stories of how people tried to rip him off. Pick pockets and child thieves.
(7:55:26 PM) Barry: Not a tour guide
(7:55:30 PM) Jared: Yeah, I know about pickpockets in rome
(7:55:38 PM) Barry: An organized tour with other people
(7:55:41 PM) Jared: wear a wallet chain in wallet in front pocket
(7:56:02 PM) Jared: Don't trust people that ask you to do things
(7:56:06 PM) Jared: I know this stuff.
(7:56:23 PM) Jared: Hunter toured Europe, and he said it's safer than the U.S. in most places.
(7:56:40 PM) Barry: he toured Europe by himself?
(7:56:47 PM) Jared: With his brother
(7:57:02 PM) Barry: it's like bear country
(7:57:16 PM) Barry: the bear is less likely to attack two people together
(7:57:34 PM) Barry: I'd still talk to greg and check in with Dominic
(7:58:00 PM) Barry: also look to see if you can train in or fly in somewhere and meet up with an organized tour
(7:58:09 PM) Jared: That's too expensive.
(7:58:13 PM) Jared: I'm trying to save money
(7:58:17 PM) Jared: i've spent so much already
(7:58:34 PM) Barry: yeah and I'm spending a lot of money
(7:58:42 PM) Barry: but as in surfing
(7:58:44 PM) Barry: safety first
(7:59:00 PM) Barry: so you spend all this money and then try to save a few bucks?
(7:59:05 PM) Jared: Dad
(7:59:19 PM) Jared: Flying in somewhere then hooking up with a tour group for two weeks
(7:59:26 PM) Jared: is way more than spending a few bucks
(8:00:20 PM) Barry: OK... I'll look into
(8:05:54 PM) Jared: Why are you acting like I'm in some grave danger?
(8:06:02 PM) Jared: Europe is safer than America, and I do fine by myself here
(8:06:46 PM) Barry: because I talked to Greg and he told me about all of the predators
(8:07:28 PM) Barry: All I'm asking is to think about where you want to go and consider taking a tour or at least staying in some decent hotels.
(8:07:43 PM) Jared: I wasn't planning on staying in hostiles
(8:07:43 PM) Barry: I grew up on the streets of San Francisco
(8:07:51 PM) Jared: I have money saved up so I can afford hotels
(8:07:51 PM) Barry: I know the streets
(8:08:46 PM) Barry: there are lots of bad people and I'm not sure you realize how predation works.
(8:09:22 PM) Barry: People from the streets can stop someone who is not from the streets a mile away
(8:09:28 PM) Barry: you never make eye contact
(8:09:38 PM) Barry: you never stop for anyone
(8:09:46 PM) Barry: etc
(8:09:50 PM) Barry: anyway
(8:10:12 PM) Barry: you are 18 now and if you don't want to explore tours so be it
(8:10:28 PM) Barry: even still I think you will see more with an organized tour
(8:11:20 PM) Barry: I would have thought that you would want to talk to Greg or Dom and preferably both about their travels and want to avoid.
(8:11:37 PM) Jared: I never said I don't want to talk to Greg
(8:11:54 PM) Jared: I just don't see why you're treating me like a child wandering around in the gehtto
(8:12:11 PM) Barry: it just sounded to me that you want to vagabond through Europe
(8:12:30 PM) Jared: Well, that's what happens when no one from America is reliable
(8:13:11 PM) Barry: well then why not look at all options?
(8:13:21 PM) Barry: yes like tours
(8:13:27 PM) Jared: Because
(8:13:30 PM) Jared: They are expensive
(8:13:35 PM) Barry: I'm not interested in arguing

[zakob]

I'm going to the north sea, in germany from July first to July ninth.

[Tanktunker]

Ok so your options are go with a tour, or leave without your family knowing.
Can your father freeze your bank account monies?

[Scornic]

Ok so your options are go with a tour, or leave without your family knowing.
Can your father freeze your bank account monies?

It's my bank account. My parents pay for my tuition, my housing, and some of my food.

[Tanktunker]

It's my bank account. My parents pay for my tuition, my housing, and some of my food.
Oh right you do that over there.
Well wear him down I guess.

[denacioust]

You'd swear we were all Barbarians here. From the way people here go on, the worst thing you have to fear in Europe is losing your wallet, in America it's getting shot.
Two guys I live with went to Barcelona a while back and had their passports stolen, and being Chinese couldn't come back to Ireland until they got a new one.

Basically, there are places where pick-pockets are fairly prevalent, but you'll get that anywhere. You've no significant danger otherwise.

[Scornic]

I'm wondering if I should take two hours to lecture him about how the internet actually works. Meeting someone from community I've been a part of for three years != 13 year old girl meeting someone she met in a chatroom two days before. Also, I'm fairly certain he got clients through internet advertisements before.

That's what I'm saying, Den. I'm fairly certain his sudden paranoia has to do with his suspicions that I want to meet rapists I met on the intertrap.

[denacioust]

Just inform that you will be having casual sex with guys you met on an internet forum. Then he'll be so confused about you being gay that he'll forget about the Europe stuff.

[Scornic]

Just inform that you will be having casual sex with guys you met on an internet forum. Then he'll be so confused about you being gay that he'll forget about the Europe stuff.

He's homophobic. That's a very bad idea.

[Tanktunker]

He's homophobic. That's a very bad idea.
Tell him you're going to Europe to beat up some fags.

[Scornic]

Tell him you're going to Europe to beat up some fags.

"I met some guys on a Neo-Nazi forum that want to go beat up some homosexuals when I get to Europe."

He's not that homophobic...

At least, not now. My mom managed to make him more tolerant.

But the topic at hand is Europe. Anyone in the spain/italy/france area that want to meet up?

[denacioust]

Do we even have anyone there?

The only Europeans we have are English, Irish, German and Estonian. To the best of my knowledge.

[Aquamenti]

I know every Euro dude is gonna wussy out; I wouldn't bother asking.

:mad:

First off, you're wrong, plus us Europeans are not fat wankers like all Americans.

[Tanktunker]

And Israeli.
We can be Europe too right?
Right...?

[Aquamenti]

"I met some guys on a Neo-Nazi forum that want to go beat up some homosexuals when I get to Europe."

He's not that homophobic...

At least, not now. My mom managed to make him more tolerant.

But the topic at hand is Europe. Anyone in the spain/italy/france area that want to meet up? Your mom made your friend more tolerant to gay people? What the poopin arse?!

My neighborhood is rather racist to fags. Tell your friend you went to Estonia and joined a Russian gang of skinheads that beat up gay men.


BTW, I'm rather sure you could meat most, if not all European XGen members who would want to see you during that 2 weeks, and that's if you spent a day in each one's neighborhood.

And Israeli.
We can be Europe too right?
Right...?

Try joining the EU.

[Scornic]

My mom made my FATHER more tolerable towards homosexuals.

How about, any Europeans want to take a trip to Italy or Spain and party with me there?

[Tanktunker]

My neighborhood is rather racist to fags. Tell your friend you went to Estonia and joined a Russian gang of skinheads that beat up gay men.

Homosexuals are a race...?

Try joining the EU.
But they have government corruption standards, which our politicians don't really like :(

[Aquamenti]

Sorry, I'm not a good reader as am I a bad listener.

Also, I don't think any Europeans would consider spending their money to get to you.
Also, swine flu is in Spain, but it'll probably be all forgotten by the time you go there.

[Aquamenti]

Homosexuals are a race...?

Being racist means you hate/discriminate a group of people, call it a race, a country, a religion, an organization or what not. Hell, I could be racist to Hallpass.

[Tanktunker]

Being racist means you hate/discriminate a group of people, call it a race, a country, a religion, an organization or what not. Hell, I could be racist to Hallpass.
No, racism is only intolerant of race, it's right there, in the word, racism.

[Aquamenti]

I disagree with that. It's just a word. And not the only one - American football is still called football, except that they only kick it like every 15 minutes during the game.

[Tanktunker]

It's a word, one that you used wrong, accept that; racism pertains to race, not sexual preference, ridiculous comparisons won't change that.

[Aquamenti]

from wiktionary:

While racism is, per se, usually tied to race, some speakers will (controversially) use the term in other cases as well:

The reason for this was the general prejudice (read: racism) against gays among “straight” people; the government simply didn't want the public to be appalled by posters and TV adds with “queers”.

[Tanktunker]

Wikitionary is not as good an actual dictionary, and an actualy dictionary will tell you that racism is about race.
You know I'm right, you're just being a dick.

EDIT:
http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=racism&search=search
rac⋅ism   [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Origin:
1865–70; < F racisme. See race 2 , -ism

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=racism
Noun

S: (n) racism (the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races)
S: (n) racism, racialism, racial discrimination (discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race)

[Aquamenti]

It's a word, one I like using wrong, accept that; we're going off-topic. I suggest we stfu about the definition of racism.

BTW, wiktionary is probably more popular than an actual dictionary and so it could be a bit moar accurate.

Ugh.

Waiting for more europeans to post here.

[Tanktunker]

BTW, wiktionary is probably more popular than an actual dictionary and so it could be a bit moar accurate.
Paris Hilton is more popular than Steven Hawking and so she could be a bit smarter, amirite?

[DarkReality]

Holy poop your dad is awesome. Are you sure he doesn't think you're going into the Amazon Jungle? You can feel free to tell him that we were sipping tea and enjoying theatres (and killing each other in ridiculously long-winded wars) while you were still sitting in log cabins, defending yourself against aggressive native tribes hurtling rocks and arrows at you.

And Israeli.
We can be Europe too right?
Right...?

Just as much as Turkey, sure.

Also, swine flu is in Spain, but it'll probably be all forgotten by the time you go there.

Or it'll have killed everyone by then and Madrid becomes a free-for-all.

Paris Hilton is more popular than Steven Hawking and so she could be a bit smarter, amirite?

Paris has a doctorates in partying, social networking, camera posing, and babbling nonsense. What does Steven have? Physics? Mathematics? Pff.

[Chimpy]

Gosh! I can't believe in my banning I missed a topic so relevant to me!

If I wasn't underage banned, I'd offer you to come stay with me, but I'm living with my parents and still in school at that time (don't finish till July 22nd). However, I've been to a lot of central Europe, and loved pretty much every part of it! I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. When I'm 18 and living away from home, I'd gladly meet a number of members around here.

I don't recommend you come to Britain though. It's nothing special, really. Stay in mainland Europe, where the weather and food are much better. Italy and France are probably my two favourite places in Europe, I've also been to Germany (really nice, couldn't drink but still enjoyed myself), Spain (not really to my liking, they all bugger off at mid day and disappear for two hours and everything's closed and it's impossible to find anywhere to eat), Portugal (spain but much better), the Netherlands (cool), Belgium (cool if you like history), Switzerland (cool I guess but the people suck). I could go on but I can't really be arsed at the moment.

[Aquamenti]

Gosh! I can't believe in my banning I missed a topic so relevant to me!

If I wasn't underage banned, I'd offer you to come stay with me, but I'm living with my parents and still in school at that time (don't finish till July 22nd). However, I've been to a lot of central Europe, and loved pretty much every part of it! I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. When I'm 18 and living away from home, I'd gladly meet a number of members around here.

I don't recommend you come to Britain though. It's nothing special, really. Stay in mainland Europe, where the weather and food are much better. Italy and France are probably my two favourite places in Europe, I've also been to Germany (really nice, couldn't drink but still enjoyed myself), Spain (not really to my liking, they all bugger off at mid day and disappear for two hours and everything's closed and it's impossible to find anywhere to eat), Portugal (spain but much better), the Netherlands (cool), Belgium (cool if you like history), Switzerland (cool I guess but the people suck). I could go on but I can't really be arsed at the moment.
I kinda like the fact that the British have so many irrational traditions and words like tea towel. Lolwut.

I mean, you don't think that England (or Scotland, Wales etc) is special because you're used to it. I can find many things that are quite interesting about England alone, for instance even the variety of different accents of English in such a small area.

[Chimpy]

I mean, you don't think that England (or Scotland, Wales etc) is special because you're used to it. I can find many things that are quite interesting about England alone, for instance even the variety of different accents of English in such a small area.

That's actually a good point, though I really wouldn't recommend Scotland to many people, it's really not that nice for the most part. However, this excludes Edinburgh, which is a really nice city and seems to be the polar opposite of the rest of Scotland. Wales.. ehh.. there's really nothing to do. I suppose I am overly used to the area, though, so I find it boring, but don't come here if you're expecting nice weather. Really.

Also, don't even think of going to Portsmouth.

[Aquamenti]

but don't come here if you're expecting nice weather. Really.
That's a con of living on a huge island.

And the small islands die because of hurricanes :(

[eedok]

Scornic is forgetting about bro rape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8)

[Aquamenti]

Scornic is forgetting about bro rape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8)

I watched the first few seconds and I think I can not continue viewing the video because I have a phobia.

[Scornic]

Scornic is forgetting about bro rape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8)

Sadly, that's probably what my dad is afraid of.

[Aquamenti]

I somehow doubt that a homophobic dad would actually prevent you to take a trip to Europe just because some gay person would want to have sex with you.

[Scornic]

I somehow doubt that a homophobic dad would actually prevent you to take a trip to Europe just because some gay person would want to have sex with you.

He's not going to prevent my trip. I have a five week summer course. It's just the two weeks inbetween the last day of class and my flight home that he's worried about, and he's trying to tell me to pay for a two week tour.

Augh, there's so much wrong with that statement. I didn't say anything about him thinking DarkReality was gay. The homophobic came up when someone suggested I use gay sex as a way to confuse him.

[Aquamenti]

Augh, there's so much wrong with that statement. I didn't say anything about him thinking DarkReality was gay. The homophobic came up when someone suggested I use gay sex as a way to confuse him.

I think we all understood you fine, at least I did - I didn't think he thought DR is gay.

[zakob]

Change your name back to RealityDelDark

[DarkReality]

I watched the first few seconds and I think I can not continue viewing the video because I have a phobia.

You do realize that admitting you have a phobia and still blaming your intolerance onto it is even more schizophrenic than just the phobia, right? Quit blaming psychological conditions and don't take everything "so srs", it was a funny video.

Change your name back to RealityDelDark

Boring. DarkReality was cool because it was all "old-skool" but changing my name again to something I already used is laaaaaaame.

[Aquamenti]

You do realize that admitting you have a phobia and still blaming your intolerance onto it is even more schizophrenic than just the phobia, right? Quit blaming psychological conditions and don't take everything "so srs", it was a funny video.

Actually I am not afraid of gay people, I just dislike a very large percentage of them (because they live in their own world with their own fashion and sexual organs) and can't tolerate 'em.

As long as they are actually manly, it's k. Because usually gay men aren't, and that's very very disturbing.

[denacioust]

We can't all be beer-swigging, wife-beating, deer-hunting, bear-wrestling lumberjacks Aqua.

I'm actually as far from what you could call a manly man without going into the gay region.

[Aquamenti]

I think it's safe to say that 90% of heterosexual adult men are manly.

[DarkReality]

As long as they are actually manly, it's k. Because usually gay men aren't, and that's very very disturbing.

... So women that wear suits and have jobs bother you as well?

I assume hunching over a computer and visiting an online forum is very manly. And their own sexual organs? They've got a penis just like you and me.

[Aquamenti]

And their own sexual organs? They've got a penis just like you and me.

Or have they? This is a mystery yet to be found - it's a journey to where no man has gone before.

[ManUpstairs]

Or have they? This is a mystery yet to be found - it's a journey to where no man has gone before.
Actually, I believe the whole homosexual thing involves going there.

[Aquamenti]

They're no real men ;)

[ManUpstairs]

They're no real men ;)
Not everyone's a cave-man. ;)

[Aquamenti]

Not everyone's a cave-man. ;)

Not everyone's man enough ;)

[Tanktunker]

Not everyone's man enough ;)
Real men don't use smilies.

[Woolfenstien]

Also, don't even think of going to Portsmouth.
Yeah, who wants to go to shopping and see the navy museum and the Mary Rose.

Oh, there's also B&Q (opposite a KFC and a footbal stadium) and Lock 'n' Store if those are more your things.

And Southsea common is nice in summer.

[Aquamenti]

Real men don't use smilies.

So you are suggesting that the XGen Staff are not real men?

BTW, Scornic, Eastern Europe has more things to see. Especially if you're interested in KGB prisons and Soviet military trenches (which there are plenty of)

[Chimpy]

KFC

Okay, you got me, I'm sold. When can I come? :P

Seriously though, I've been there, it's pretty nice. I like coastal places.

[Aquamenti]

Seriously though, I've been there, it's pretty nice. I like coastal places.

And this is why you don't want other people to go there?

[Scornic]

My thread has been so derailed -.- The question still stands, whether or not any Europeans want to take a short trip to Italy, Spain, or France.

[Kerry]

Jared, I think you should listen to your dad. In the unlikely event something does happen you will never be able to live it down, and he will never forgive himself for letting you go.

Especially if you got kidnapped and sold as a sex slave >.>

[Scornic]

So you think I should spend thousands of dollars to get stuck with a group of old people sitting in tourist traps?

I don't want to go to Europe and see all of the big tourist traps. I want to see the actual culture. The thrift stores, the pubs, the restaurants, the cafes. All of the stuff that isn't there simply to get money from us Americans.

[Marty]

My suggestion is not to stay in Germany too long - There isn't anything fantastically breath-taking there as there is in Prague, France and Italy. I thought you were only going to Italy, by the way. Change of plans?

[Scornic]

I'm not going to Germany. Was just a thought, but my father shot it down.

I'm trying to figure out what to do for the two weeks. Last thing I want is to get stuck with a tour group going to see crowds of Americans taking pictures.

[Spartanwarrior3]

I'm not going to Germany. Was just a thought, but my father shot it down.

I'm trying to figure out what to do for the two weeks. Last thing I want is to get stuck with a tour group going to see crowds of Americans taking pictures.
If your going to be anywhere near Amsterdam, You could always go to a hookah bar.

[Scarr]

Take pictures of every second, so you can reflect on every second. It's like buying photographic memory.

[Aquamenti]

take a short trip to Italy, Spain, or France.
I have never been that far away from my home. Call that short?

[Tanktunker]

If your going to be anywhere near Amsterdam, You could always go to a hookah bar.
Yeah, it's not like Hookahs are legal in every single country in the world, unlike other things you can get legally in Amsterdam.

[Spectral]

Spartanwarrior3, you really are clueless aren't you. That's why I don't believe you're the big druggie that you say you are. Next time you're in ####ing Kentucky, and noone cares about Kentucky, don't forget to check out the hookah bar too. Because hookah is just so damn awesome, right? You just have to check out hookah every where you go.

My thread has been so derailed -.- The question still stands, whether or not any Europeans want to take a short trip to Italy, Spain, or France.
Nobody wants to go with you. Because half of them would be scared of an American, one little boy has a phobia against haircuts, standing up, dress shirts, and anyone who remotely looks fashionable, good looking, or studly, and the rest I'm guessing don't possess the basic social skills to communicate with you before breaking into hives.

My suggestion: If you wanna meet up with an XGenner, meet up with an American.

[DarkReality]

I'm obviously a nobody :(

And also so much more inferior to hamburger-munchers (I made that up, I'm so clever, aren't I). I should go kill myself.

You'd think arbitrary national boundaries wouldn't weigh in so much, but who knew.

Any trip I'm taking would be short notice. I'm incapable of planning beyond two, maybe three weeks from the given day.

[Spectral]

Hamburger munchers? Psh, way to stereotype.
















I'm more of the Cheeseburger type.

[DarkReality]

Cheese does not belong onto a hamburger. It simply doesn't.

[Scarr]

That's why it is called a Cheeseburger.

[Scornic]

Well, I am going to have internet, so just drop me a PM or something if you do decide to visit one of the mentioned countries.

[DarkReality]

That's why it is called a Cheeseburger.

And such a thing should not exist. Hence my point. You could call it a Snafuggle and it would still be a hamburger with cheese on top.

[Dan]

It's weird how I taste cheese on a cheeseburger, but when I go to eat a hamburger I can't taste any ham at all!

[Scornic]

It's weird how I taste cheese on a cheeseburger, but when I go to eat a hamburger I can't taste any ham at all!

Ham is disgusting.

It's looking like meeting XGenians while on this trip probably won't happen. Next summer, I might plan a trip specifically for meeting XGenians.

[DarkReality]

It's weird how I taste cheese on a cheeseburger, but when I go to eat a hamburger I can't taste any ham at all!

It's not made out of ham, it's made out of people from Hamburg but because it's the meat is so over-processed, it tastes like beef with a little "zing"

[Aquamenti]

Ham is disgusting.
I disagree
It's looking like meeting XGenians while on this trip probably won't happen. Next summer, I might plan a trip specifically for meeting XGenians.
Only the next one? D:>

[Aquamenti]

Because half of them would be scared of an American, one little boy has a phobia against haircuts, standing up, dress shirts, and anyone who remotely looks fashionable, good looking, or studly, and the rest I'm guessing don't possess the basic social skills to communicate with you before breaking into hives.

Europeans are far more good-looking than the Americans.

BTW, I'm guessing an American tour is old news for an American like Scornic.

[Dragon]

Ham is disgusting.

It's looking like meeting XGenians while on this trip probably won't happen. Next summer, I might plan a trip specifically for meeting XGenians.

What would we talk about?

"So, you're pretty cool on XGen. I would've never expected you to look and sound like this."

"Yeah, same with you."

"..."

"So uh, what now?"

[Aquamenti]

Maybe some XGenians would like to join Scornic on his trip?

[Dragon]

Like a road trip across American but you pick up people on the way?

That'd be interesting. Possibly fun, too.

[Aquamenti]

Not just America.

>_>

I'd probably have a car by whenever this would be organized, too.

[Dragon]

Yeah, same here. Although I'll be one year away from being 18. So... yeah.

[Aquamenti]

Well, if it'd be across the whole world, it'll probably be after I get 16 and get my driving's license.

[denacioust]

As long as we all have sex every night I'd be happy.

[Aquamenti]

That's not a problem inside the EU unless you're talking about having sex with each other. Because that's gay.

[denacioust]

I was talking about a giant Xgen orgy.

[Aquamenti]

I was talking about a giant Xgen orgy.

No girls on the internet.

So, the plan's kinda gay.

[denacioust]

I fail to see your problem.

[Aquamenti]

Well, I'm heterosexual.

Yeah, I just came out of the closet^

[Scornic]

What would we talk about?

"So, you're pretty cool on XGen. I would've never expected you to look and sound like this."

"Yeah, same with you."

"..."

"So uh, what now?"

XGen isn't everything in life. Do you and your friends sit around and talk about the flash game forum you go to? We would probably go to a pub, get drunk, and hit on the European women.

[Aquamenti]

We would probably go to a pub, get drunk, and hit on the European women.

>_>

<_<

I like this guy^

[DarkReality]

We should totally all meet up on the moon.

[Dragon]

XGen isn't everything in life. Do you and your friends sit around and talk about the flash game forum you go to? We would probably go to a pub, get drunk, and hit on the European women.


That's the point. For most everyone here we only know thier XGen persona, not the real them.

Although I think we can all relate to wanting to do that. <_<

[Sperry]

I'm definitely in favour of an XGen gathering/road trip/vacation "thing" for next summer. 100%. A lot. Emphasis.

[YoureANubcake]

You only want to see me.

[Spectral]

What would we talk about?

"So, you're pretty cool on XGen. I would've never expected you to look and sound like this."

"Yeah, same with you."

"..."

"So uh, what now?"
Some people here actually know how to initiate and keep a conversation without looking like awkward douchebags.

[Dan]

Some people here actually know how to initiate and keep a conversation without looking like awkward douchebags.

This applies to me.

[Weezy]

I'd never want to meet Dragon. He seems kind of... weird

[Aquamenti]

I'm definitely in favour of an XGen gathering/road trip/vacation "thing" for next summer. 100%. A lot. Emphasis.

What about 2011 summer? Also, where?

[a1b23]

I would be interested in going. I would just have to convince my parents that they don't have to worry about me driving alone to some place to meet a group of people i know on the internet.

A location would be nice. Perhaps NYC since a lot of Xgenners seems to live (near) there.

[Aquamenti]

Some people here actually know how to initiate and keep a conversation without looking like awkward douchebags.

Some people here might actually consider not talking so openly to strangers.

You will get raped by a pedophile one day.

[DarkReality]

An entire XGen meeting is dangerous. Statistically, at least one person here is probably 40-ish, a pedophile and potentially violent.

[K1CkA55]

Just make sure a beefy member comes to take out any pedos.

[denacioust]

Just make sure a beefy member comes to take out any pedos.

We're all screwed if the beefy member is the pedo though...

[Scornic]

Oh God, is that was Dom does in his free time?!

Quick!
http://www.jdray.net/photos/d/2788-4/dangerous_to_go_alone.jpg

But really. I'm liking the idea of an XGen meetup. A lot of members have already met each other.

[Aquamenti]

I don't think Dom is a pedophile. He's quite young and way too cool for that.

Pedo's don't have a personality.

ALSO, where would the whole XGen meetup happen?

[Tanktunker]

I don't think Dom is a pedophile. He's quite young and way too cool for that.

Pedo's don't have a personality.

ALSO, where would the whole XGen meetup happen?
NOT IN ESTONIA!
like everything that doesn't suck.

[Aquamenti]

NOT IN ESTONIA!
like everything that doesn't suck.

Why would I think it would take place in Estonia? Also, being racist to a nation/country you don't know is quite idiotic and irrational.

[DarkReality]

We should all post our GPS coordinates and then write a script that calculates the potential spots that minimizes the mean distance people would have to travel.

Or just pick Antarctica.

[denacioust]

I go for the mean GPS thing. Only thing is we might end up in the ocean or something.

We had this talk like 2 years ago too. It probably won't happen.

[Scornic]

Or just pick Antarctica.

I second this notion.

So, what happened to that "Member Map" we used to have?

[Tanktunker]

Why would I think it would take place in Estonia? Also, being racist to a nation/country you don't know is quite idiotic and irrational.

Countries and nations are not races, so I cannot be racist towards them.
All I know is that there is nothing good about Estonia, and nothing good has or will ever happen there.

[Dan]

I second this notion.

So, what happened to that "Member Map" we used to have?

Somewhere in the void of irrelevance. It was confirmed that the majority of the members who tagged their location lived on the east coast. (US)

[HungryMonkey]

Last time I was in Europe I saw this in a French WW2 museum.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5863/dsc00342e.jpg

The Germans must have left it behind.

/offtopic

Any meetup should be in Switzerland, that way it's neutral.