View Full Version : Was Nirvana really a great band?
Rambo
09-13-2003, 04:14 PM
Were they really a great band? Or, did Kobain's suicide MAKE them a great band.
Namhet
09-13-2003, 04:27 PM
Nirvana wasn't a great band, they sucked anyways.
The First
09-13-2003, 05:05 PM
If you don't like Nirvana, I hope you (insert something really and truly bad and yet inoffensive so I don't get in trouble).
Kurt had the most amazing vocals and the most amazing lyrics. Absolutely amazing. Add in Kris and Dave and you have the best band that I have ever heard.
If you have never heard Unplugged in New York, then do so. It is the best CD of all time. Ever.
If you've heard it and didn't like it, you don't deserve to be able to hear. I hope you go deaf.
In summary, my answer is a resounding yes.
ToKillAnATTICUS
09-13-2003, 05:30 PM
They were a great band before his death.. I don't know where you got that from..
kevinok
09-13-2003, 05:38 PM
They were a great band.
Namhet
09-13-2003, 08:38 PM
I disliked them, but thats probably because i was forced to listen to a nirvana single throughout an entire roadtrip non-stop.
And it was a big road trip. From California to colorado.
kevinok
09-13-2003, 08:43 PM
Well I would have loved that.
[Borge]
09-13-2003, 08:44 PM
Nirvana is a great band.
as ripht said Kurt= lyrical genious + Krist & Dave you have yourself quite the band.
tehman what single was it?
Nirvana= Teh R0x0r
Namhet
09-13-2003, 08:46 PM
A nirvana single. ONE SONG.
I doubt ANYONE would love that.
kevinok
09-13-2003, 08:48 PM
Which song was it???
Sinkman34
09-13-2003, 08:56 PM
I didnt think nirvana was that great, I think the message that they were giving was good but unclear... something about the whole teenage rape, suicide murder idiocism thing
kevinok
09-13-2003, 09:04 PM
Well they did so much for music.
Kaskas
09-13-2003, 10:35 PM
i think nirvana did pretty poor things for music, yeah i was a fan of nirvana at the age of many of the forum posters are, but now i have a clear view of what this band really did...
nirvana did not have the time to improve over "a moment band" and create few nice songs some hims and poor albums, with a great lack of variety, they took the flag of "grunge/punk/brokenhearted" bands but they didnt take the of music revolution, just look at other bands like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Smashing pumpkins, rage against the machine or offspring... all failed and lose their "fame" in some stage, but thay always gave new fresh sound in each work they made... they did take the hard way of just being original and tried new things... some worked well and others were only enjoyed by hearted fans.
all i want to mean is that having an horrible dead dosent turn u into a master of what u did in your live--- thats what happens to kurt, a good lyrical but not so good composer that could not carry the weigh of his idol-stage... just let him not being an idol now that he is dead, let him rest in peace.
kevinok
09-13-2003, 11:01 PM
Well I think they did alot for music and they day Kurt died music died.
Kaskas
09-13-2003, 11:10 PM
Well I think they did alot for music and they day Kurt died music died.
hahahaha.... do u know what is the difference between a overvalorated cheap idol that killed hiself and a really awesome musical talented musician that really do something for music... just the diference between Freddy mercury and kurt cobain.
kevinok
09-13-2003, 11:14 PM
Kurt was a great artist.
Kaskas
09-13-2003, 11:18 PM
Kurt could have been a great artist if he didnt died that young... also i think he wasent a great composer, so i think he is an overvalorated one... chrish cornel to put an example was ten times more talented than him in that moment... just compare nevermind to superunknown and you will see.
kevinok
09-13-2003, 11:24 PM
Well I don't think nevermind is there best album.
Kaskas
09-13-2003, 11:34 PM
i dont think Superunknown is also Soundgardens best album... but its a good example of their music like nevermind for nirvana, actually whats your favourite nirvana album????
kevinok
09-14-2003, 12:04 AM
I can't think of the name. I will tell you it tomorrow.
Kaskas
09-14-2003, 12:10 AM
i'll read it tomorrow too.
kevinok
09-14-2003, 12:18 AM
And I will read your comment tomorrow.
The First
09-14-2003, 08:34 AM
i think nirvana did pretty poor things for music, yeah i was a fan of nirvana at the age of many of the forum posters are, but now i have a clear view of what this band really did...
nirvana did not have the time to improve over "a moment band" and create few nice songs some hims and poor albums, with a great lack of variety, they took the flag of "grunge/punk/brokenhearted" bands but they didnt take the of music revolution, just look at other bands like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Smashing pumpkins, rage against the machine or offspring... all failed and lose their "fame" in some stage, but thay always gave new fresh sound in each work they made... they did take the hard way of just being original and tried new things... some worked well and others were only enjoyed by hearted fans.
all i want to mean is that having an horrible dead dosent turn u into a master of what u did in your live--- thats what happens to kurt, a good lyrical but not so good composer that could not carry the weigh of his idol-stage... just let him not being an idol now that he is dead, let him rest in peace.
I never started out with much respect for you, and the more I hear you talk the more my respect diminishes.
You just sound like a total fool in this quote. Yeah, all those bands' (except Smashing Pumpkins) sounds changed over time. It was because they sold out, not because they were giving "fresh" new sounds and giving life to music. They didn't take the "hard way" they took the, "give me money cause I have no integrity" way.
I am sickened to hear anyone put these bands (including Smashing Pumpkins) over Nirvana. Nirvana's sound may not vary much to a fool's ears, but no one can mistake the passion in Kurt's voice, or the suffering in his lyrics.
Every song was a masterpiece. Every album is an album that I never get tired of hearing. You don't have to skip tracks when listening to a Nirvana album because every one is stinking amazing.
So, in summary, your taste in music sucks. Nirvana is amazing.
Kaskas
09-14-2003, 08:51 AM
Thank u for calling me fool, and that my taste for music sucks... actually it does compared to a person who idolize Kurt cobain and whose arguments are just comercial arguments, remenber Nirvana got more had more publicity and histerical teenager gruppies than ANY of those "sold out" bands... its easy to say that if a band changes its becose they are trying to sell more, but its untrue, just thing, a great music corporation doesnt want that... they want something that they know as something that works out at selling, a band that changes and haves "up and downs" is not good for a multinational.
well now i'll clear something im not trying to insult nirvana, just want people to stop idolize them and treat them as the short life band they were.
Rambo
09-14-2003, 11:31 AM
Well, obviously, VH1 agrees with many of you that [face=courier:a39975c1ea]Smells Like Teen Spirit[/face:a39975c1ea] is one of the greatest songs ever.
Kaskas
09-14-2003, 11:52 AM
i preffer to have my own opinion...
ToKillAnATTICUS
09-14-2003, 02:06 PM
Smells like teens spirit wasnt that great, I'd prefer Pennyroyal Tea, or somthing from bleach :cry:
Sinkman34
09-14-2003, 02:20 PM
IT really wasnt it was 4 power chords and 2 notes and then a lower-middle class solo.
When I say lower-middle class i mean it gets a 2.5 out of 10
ToKillAnATTICUS
09-14-2003, 02:23 PM
Just becuase it only has 4 chords doesn't make it a crappy song, how many songs do you know that have over 4 chords?!
Sinkman34
09-14-2003, 02:25 PM
um...dammit!! uh... lemme count... i think 14...maybe 13 i dunno...uh.... yur right though...
Diamond187
09-14-2003, 02:46 PM
Personally, my favourite songs by Nirvana are Polly and the covers they did. I think Nirvana was an amazing group of musicians, but they did lack something in the song writing, and I don't know what it was. I think it might of been that Kurt was a bit controlling with his songs, but after a while they do sound really similar, which is why I really like their covers, they could take a bad song and play it so well it became good in their hands (has anybody heard the original Lake of Fire? Then you know what I'm talking about.). Of course, I could just be jaded by their "greatest hits" album, which was probably the worst CD that had Nirvana's name attached to it.
kevinok
09-14-2003, 04:44 PM
There really is no way to explain why I love Nirvana but I just do.
Kaskas
09-15-2003, 02:15 PM
i really dont think a song that have 4 chords is crappy...
i dont like nirvana's cover of "the man who sold the world"
Sinkman34
09-15-2003, 08:09 PM
no im just sayin people think kurt is a genius when all of the things he played were simple, he wasnt a guitar genius maybe a genius in other ways, maybe not a genius at all, he saw the world differently then everyone else
Kaskas
09-15-2003, 08:30 PM
you are right sinkman, i've tried to say that a lot of times "but the world wont listen"
more than that i think he has no more in especial than any other grunge/post grunge bands.
kevinok
09-15-2003, 08:33 PM
Well Kaskas how about we just say that we all have different opions and end this now.
Sinkman34
09-15-2003, 08:38 PM
good plan
kevinok
09-15-2003, 08:40 PM
Thank you it will make things easyer.
Kaskas
09-15-2003, 09:58 PM
Kaskas: never... i'll never surrender, I see a whole army of my countrymen here in defiance of tyranny. You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?
....Aye, fight and you may die, run and you'll live....at least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies...that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom!
meco: Yes, I've heard. He kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.
kevinok
09-15-2003, 10:01 PM
Okay allow me to move away.
Kaskas
09-15-2003, 10:10 PM
you are not allow to flee without fighting COWARD, you decide the weapon, after tea time, genttleman`s judgement of swords will decide who owns the lady, and who deserve the grave.
kevinok
09-15-2003, 10:13 PM
Okay I challenge you to a duel. Oh wait damnit we already did that. Okay I pick corn as the weapon.
Kaskas
09-15-2003, 10:19 PM
corn fight... ok... is up to you, corn is my favourite meal... angard¡¡¡
*Kaskas leaves the room*
The Brown Cow
09-15-2003, 10:20 PM
Nirvana is my favorite band of all time. The meaning of the songs far surpasses anything else I've ever heard.
Well I think they did alot for music and they day Kurt died music died.
Turn all the lights down low
Try to fade your apathy
Made up a world where you can even be you
Star in a tragedy
Shadowed voice on an open court
And light up around the world just to hear you scream
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Drowning in misery
The nightmare begins when you close the door
You sat in your angry chair and stryed to be you
The needle became your queen
The drug had become your enemy
And music was just a way for you to bleed
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
and they won't believe
and they can't believe
Points to anyone who knows who that is, one of the very few great modern bands.
kevinok
09-15-2003, 10:22 PM
Nirvana is my favorite band of all time. The meaning of the songs far surpasses anything else I've ever heard.
Well I think they did alot for music and they day Kurt died music died.
Turn all the lights down low
Try to fade your apathy
Made up a world where you can even be you
Star in a tragedy
Shadowed voice on an open court
And light up around the world just to hear you scream
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Drowning in misery
The nightmare begins when you close the door
You sat in your angry chair and stryed to be you
The needle became your queen
The drug had become your enemy
And music was just a way for you to bleed
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
and they won't believe
and they can't believe
Points to anyone who knows who that is, one of the very few great modern bands.
Well I am the one who said that the day Kurt died music died. I hope that music will one day come back to being good though.
Mr. Blue Sky
09-16-2003, 03:53 PM
Nirvana were a group of amazing songwriters. Okay musicians, Cobain's solos fit the mood of the given song perfectly, which is usually what a solo is about. I really like Nirvana, but I don't worship them. I kinda feel sorry for the people who do in the way that 'yeah, they're my gods!' because they did write really depressing music, and in all reality weren't THAT great. Just my opinion though..
[Borge]
09-16-2003, 04:07 PM
Turn all the lights down low
Try to fade your apathy
Made up a world where you can even be you
Star in a tragedy
Shadowed voice on an open court
And light up around the world just to hear you scream
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Drowning in misery
The nightmare begins when you close the door
You sat in your angry chair and stryed to be you
The needle became your queen
The drug had become your enemy
And music was just a way for you to bleed
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
Blown away by fame
We could all feel the shotgun hit the floor
Never learn in faith
If you can't believe
and you won't believe
and he can't believe
and they won't believe
and they can't believe
That is the song by Cold in memory of Kurt and the singer from Alice In Chains im pretty sure its called the day seattle died.
I much prefer the song Tearjerker by the Red Hot Chili Peppers when it comes to a song in memory of Kurt.
pwrslyd
09-16-2003, 04:17 PM
nirvana always seemed uninspired to me..i guess i just don't like grunge...and I really didn't like Kurt voice...gravel with a whine...::shudder::
Sinkman34
09-17-2003, 07:49 PM
If you guys r gonna duel then i wanna be the lady,
Anyway i think nirvana was very inspired, form where?? noone knows
kevinok
09-17-2003, 07:52 PM
I still love them.
Rambo
09-17-2003, 09:37 PM
Although there are disagreements in the posts, the poll seems to state a resounding "yes"
HELL YES THEY WERE GREAT WAY BEFORE HE DID HIMSELF.
kevinok
09-17-2003, 11:36 PM
YEa I was wondering about that to Rambo.
Chronic
09-18-2003, 11:14 AM
Damn, that guyis even mad about questioning Nirvana's greatness or something. That band rocked the shit out of any band, but now it has become a lil antique :evil:
Rambo
09-18-2003, 11:19 AM
YEa I was wondering about that to Rambo.
Was wondering about what? The difference in the polls and the posts?
kevinok
09-18-2003, 09:03 PM
No about why we all have fingers.
Rambo
09-18-2003, 09:06 PM
Your sarcasm is greatly appreciated kev
kevinok
09-18-2003, 09:25 PM
Your sarcasm is greatly appreciated kev
Yea well what can I say.
CastleFreak04
09-18-2003, 11:33 PM
yeah everyone....nirvana was truly great....
Sinkman34
09-19-2003, 04:39 PM
their vision was great, the music was a little...yeah
kevinok
09-19-2003, 06:23 PM
Well it is better then anything today. I know that is not saying much but still.
HavocWizard
07-31-2004, 08:36 PM
I know I'm bringing back an old post, but I know Bandit would like to see this...
Or at least I think she would.
It seems that so far, I am the only one you said that they were an okay band, and thats what they were. They didn't do anything that was really great. Unless you call ALMOST KILLING THE ENTIRE METAL SCENE IN FAVOR OF GRUNGE GREAT!!!!!!!! (Which actually it was, that's pretty hard to do.)
As far as I can tell, Nirvana has only mangaged to only inspire only crappy bands to be created... bands that have even less talent than they did.
I like Nirvana, they're fun to listen to, but I don't that they were really that great. They are fun to listen to. Kurt Cobain was cool guy, but no one in Nirvana was really that great.
If you compare a band like Nirvana to a band like Dream Theater, you will see what I mean.
I wouldn't say Nirvavna didn't have talent just beacuse they're instrumentals were kinda poopy. It's been already said but, take some time to listen to the unplugged in new yourk stuff. It's really good and even though I'm not sure how much of it was covers, the compsition was good too. Besides, there are more terrible metal bands than terrible grunge bands.... some of those metal bands may be better but the guitar solos really suck because they have no phrasing.... and music scenes are overated... really overated...
Rambo
08-01-2004, 12:59 AM
Kurt Cobain seemed like a troubled individual when you looked at him. At least to me. But, in retrospect, I'd take Metallica over Nirvana any day. (Even Monday)
Oh, and let me add this. Even though this band would never be counted among my all-time favorites, I could sense the pain and desperation in Kurt's voice when he sings. Other than that, not much to listen to.
I'd take Metallica over Nirvana any day. (Even Monday)
Metallica over Nirvana :shock: ?! I'd take George Micheal over Metallica....
Well, Nirvana may not have been good, but they were new. They took a style to a whole new level.
Many of you may hate Nirvana because you don't like there music, but in reality, you have probably only heard radio stuff, such as "Heart Shaped Box" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Personally, I hate those songs.. I prefer older stuff, that most have you have never heard.. Songs off of the album "Bleach"
DarkReality
08-02-2004, 12:14 PM
Kurt Cobain seemed like a troubled individual when you looked at him. At least to me. But, in retrospect, I'd take Metallica over Nirvana any day. (Even Monday)
...You're kidding, right? Metallica? o.O well then, diversity is good, I guess >_<
And of course he was a troubled individual. Anyone who pumps themselves full with heroine is a troubled individual :-p
j0k3r
08-08-2004, 01:16 PM
Nirvana... was a legend... I meen u gotta look past the musical skill of them. Skill wise i have to agree they werent that good but there lyrics and the way they put things across were amazing... and i guess to truly love a band u must relate to them which i do deaply... I just dont get how ppl r like "Kobains death made them good!" bla bla bla how in wat way is the lead singer "killing" (he was murdered) himself make a band good? did his ghost come back and sing for them? But i love nirvana greatest band... Kurt R.I.P
Nirvana was one of the greatest bands ever. Fhm rated there cd "nevermind" #1 on the list of best cds from the past 25 years and gave "teen spirit" the 1# hit of the 90's. I think Kurt Cobain's suicide just got there name in the public.
ScientistBlah
10-16-2004, 09:47 AM
Nirvana, sure, they were good, but I wouldn't consider them truely "great". I have 1 of their CD's(I don't even remember the name of it anymore, I haven't listened to it since I was like 13). I liked the band, but they weren't anything special. Kurt wasn't that great of vocals, he was better than alot, but definitely not the best. I'm going to have to agree that Nirvana wouldn't be as well known if Kurt Didn't die. I think that's the main reason why they're big. Nirvana is like Tupac(yes, I am referring to crap rap), if he never died, he wouldn't be nearly as big as if he didn't die. My point is, nirvana would just be another band if Kurt didn't die.
xinjinbei
11-19-2004, 11:29 AM
was nirvana russian band?
denacioust
11-21-2004, 03:22 PM
No, I believe they were Latvian.
BTW I hate Nirvana, good songs but ridiculuously overplayed I rather bands like Kings of Leon
brothad
11-22-2004, 02:24 PM
they where ok.......
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