Hmm... So This Is How Disney Makes Lots Of Money

[Joest]

link (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906578)

[Stuntman]

Now all the pieces fall into place.
On a related note, this. (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/02/lol-pixar-vs-dreamworks/)

[jrmagic360]

That was some good editing.

[eedok]

Now all the pieces fall into place.
On a related note, this. (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/02/lol-pixar-vs-dreamworks/)
lol, that's really flawed, and if you want proof, which Pixar movie is this describing:
One or more lovable protagonists have existed for some time in a stable but fundamentally flawed routine, which is shaken up by the introduction of a foreign entity, usually another character, around whom attitudes are initially hostile. Attempts to deal with this character eventually lead to the protagonist(s) discovering a new, unfamiliar world, and in doing so discover the nature of the fundamental flaw in their routine. Villains are usually introduced or only become truly villainous from around the mid-point or quite late into the film. Along the way the heroes enlist the help of various lesser characters with clearly definable quirks and at one point reluctantly enter a high-speed chase. The villain is generally finally defeated with surprising ease, and everything concludes in an emotionally manipulative ending in which routine is restored with the fundamental flaw excised.

[zakob]

lol, that's really flawed, and if you want proof, which Pixar movie is this describing:
One or more lovable protagonists have existed for some time in a stable but fundamentally flawed routine, which is shaken up by the introduction of a foreign entity, usually another character, around whom attitudes are initially hostile. Attempts to deal with this character eventually lead to the protagonist(s) discovering a new, unfamiliar world, and in doing so discover the nature of the fundamental flaw in their routine. Villains are usually introduced or only become truly villainous from around the mid-point or quite late into the film. Along the way the heroes enlist the help of various lesser characters with clearly definable quirks and at one point reluctantly enter a high-speed chase. The villain is generally finally defeated with surprising ease, and everything concludes in an emotionally manipulative ending in which routine is restored with the fundamental flaw excised.

Wow, you've really got it dead on, cody. This made me think of shrek, for some reason, but it does describe almost all of the movies.

[Mr. Anderson]

This thread reeks of win.

[Joest]

That was some good editing.
That isn't hard to do. You just have to locate the parts in which the movies are identical, mark what you want, organize it all and add music.

I could probably do it.

[jrmagic360]

You would also have to download almost every "cartoon" Disney movie. There's a good 48 hours of work if you want to do this.

[Joest]

That's what? 5? 6 movies that they used in the video? At an hour and a half each, you'd be done in about 9 hours at the most. Take notes while you're watching the videos and afterwords you compare notes and see what's similar.

It's easier than it looks.

[LizardRob]

That's the kind of thing you'd notice once by chance, then you'd start noticing it more often, and eventually see how many similarities there are, and simply record those parts from a high-quality stream or download one day. The actual editing work might have taken 3 or so hours.

[Dragon]

I loved the Aristocats.

<_<

Yeah, most movies these days, even if by different companies, are predictable.

[Scornic]

Wow, you've really got it dead on, cody. This made me think of shrek, for some reason, but it does describe almost all of the movies.

I was thinking Wall-E and Toy Story.

[eedok]

it's a quote from Yahtzee's review of Wall-E :P

[poguemahon]

That's just eerie. I never noticed the pattern until now, actually. I don't usually pay much attention to plots of disney animations.

[gentoro]

Even House does this. Someone has a heart attack/stroke or such, goes to house, feels better, gets really bad, feels better, gets worse, House thinks he has the solution but the patient gets better then worse, better, worse, moral conflict, real cure, end. Insert an antagonist or moral conflict during all of this and that's the show. Wash, rinse, repeat. Also, Lupus.

[e p]

Who cares if Disney repackages movies? They make movies for kids. How many kids would give a #### if the animations are the same?

[Joest]

Even House does this. Someone has a heart attack/stroke or such, goes to house, feels better, gets really bad, feels better, gets worse, House thinks he has the solution but the patient gets better then worse, better, worse, moral conflict, real cure, end. Insert an antagonist or moral conflict during all of this and that's the show. Wash, rinse, repeat. Also, Lupus.
That's just a rough plot line repeating. They literally traced skeletons, in this. That's comparing apples to oranges.

[Sebian]

This thread reeks of win.

True dat. Especially eedok's post.

[DarkReality]

It's kind of old news. Back before we had digital movie editing, animation templates were a bit more difficult to make and so images were often reused to save time. If you want cheap rip-offs, just look at their plethora of live-action movies.

I was thinking Wall-E and Toy Story.

Wall-E and Monsters Inc. for me.

[Vagrant]

That's just a rough plot line repeating. They literally traced skeletons, in this. That's comparing apples to oranges.

Bingo. Copying storylines is nothing new in the history of storytelling -- some of the best stories are simply remakes of older ones with a more modern tone added to them.

However, this is grade A laziness on the part of Disney -- the skeletons are being copied from movie to movie.

[Stuntman]

Who cares if Disney repackages movies? They make movies for kids. How many kids would give a #### if the animations are the same?
As I am inevitably dragged along to a Disney movie several times a year, I care.

[The Brown Cow]

lol, that's really flawed, and if you want proof, which Pixar movie is this describing:
One or more lovable protagonists have existed for some time in a stable but fundamentally flawed routine, which is shaken up by the introduction of a foreign entity, usually another character, around whom attitudes are initially hostile. Attempts to deal with this character eventually lead to the protagonist(s) discovering a new, unfamiliar world, and in doing so discover the nature of the fundamental flaw in their routine. Villains are usually introduced or only become truly villainous from around the mid-point or quite late into the film. Along the way the heroes enlist the help of various lesser characters with clearly definable quirks and at one point reluctantly enter a high-speed chase. The villain is generally finally defeated with surprising ease, and everything concludes in an emotionally manipulative ending in which routine is restored with the fundamental flaw excised.
Eh, the same summary could be used to describe Star Wars, E.T., or any number of classic films. Most stories are variations on other stories.

But yeah, I respect Pixar way more than Dreamworks. Pixar puts out the occasional mediocre cash-grab, but most of their work is genuine art. Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo, Wall-E... they may all tell a similar story of an underdog overcoming adversity, but their extremely well put together, in terms of graphic quality as well as writing, animation, pacing, and composition. Dreamworks mostly pumps out kid-friendly cashgrabs full of slapstick and low on substance. I greatly enjoyed Wall-E, but I cringe at the prospect of watching Madagascar 2.

[Ghecko]

Hm, I always thought Disney was generic; I guess I was right.

[Sebian]

Eh, the same summary could be used to describe Star Wars, E.T., or any number of classic films. Most stories are variations on other stories.

But yeah, I respect Pixar way more than Dreamworks. Pixar puts out the occasional mediocre cash-grab, but most of their work is genuine art. Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo, Wall-E... they may all tell a similar story of an underdog overcoming adversity, but their extremely well put together, in terms of graphic quality as well as writing, animation, pacing, and composition. Dreamworks mostly pumps out kid-friendly cashgrabs full of slapstick and low on substance. I greatly enjoyed Wall-E, but I cringe at the prospect of watching Madagascar 2.

*Slap*

[Mr.Man the man]

I thought the made all there money off of hannnah montana

[4D_]

lol, that's really flawed, and if you want proof, which Pixar movie is this describing:
One or more lovable protagonists have existed for some time in a stable but fundamentally flawed routine, which is shaken up by the introduction of a foreign entity, usually another character, around whom attitudes are initially hostile. Attempts to deal with this character eventually lead to the protagonist(s) discovering a new, unfamiliar world, and in doing so discover the nature of the fundamental flaw in their routine. Villains are usually introduced or only become truly villainous from around the mid-point or quite late into the film. Along the way the heroes enlist the help of various lesser characters with clearly definable quirks and at one point reluctantly enter a high-speed chase. The villain is generally finally defeated with surprising ease, and everything concludes in an emotionally manipulative ending in which routine is restored with the fundamental flaw excised.
Have any of you heard of the Heroic Journey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth)? ALL stores have the exact same basic outline.

1. Hero is in their familiar world (doesn't have to be physical).
2. Something causes unrest in familiar world and hero is called to solve it.
3. Hero has some form of hesitation to the call.
4. Hero meets a teacher (or mentor, etc. It can even be himself).
5. Hero crosses into unfamiliar world.
6. Hero encounters obsticals/trials/ordeals.
7. Hero makes final preparations and approaches inner-most cave (figuratively).
8. Hero has major ordeal.
9. Hero gains a reward.
10. Hero returns to familiar world.
11. Hero faces a climactic ordeal that transforms himself.
12. Hero's ordinary world is returned to normal stability with hero's success.

Give me any story (that I would know) and I'll put it in those steps.

[Liokae]

Also, lack of Lupus.


Fixed that up for you.

[Joest]

It's not Lupus.

[Liokae]

Except that one time when it was.

[Joest]

Well, yeah. That one time.

[Stuntman]

Have any of you heard of the Heroic Journey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth)? ALL stores have the exact same basic outline.

1. Hero is in their familiar world (doesn't have to be physical).
2. Something causes unrest in familiar world and hero is called to solve it.
3. Hero has some form of hesitation to the call.
4. Hero meets a teacher (or mentor, etc. It can even be himself).
5. Hero crosses into unfamiliar world.
6. Hero encounters obstacles/trials/ordeals.
7. Hero makes final preparations and approaches inner-most cave (figuratively).
8. Hero has major ordeal.
9. Hero gains a reward.
10. Hero returns to familiar world.
11. Hero faces a climactic ordeal that transforms himself.
12. Hero's ordinary world is returned to normal stability with hero's success.

Give me any story (that I would know) and I'll put it in those steps.
All You Zombies.

[Govenator]

Wow!
This is amazing!
I never even noticed any of that until just now!

Disney, that clever devil...

[game-bot]

Have any of you heard of the Heroic Journey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth)? ALL stores have the exact same basic outline.

1. Hero is in their familiar world (doesn't have to be physical).
2. Something causes unrest in familiar world and hero is called to solve it.
3. Hero has some form of hesitation to the call.
4. Hero meets a teacher (or mentor, etc. It can even be himself).
5. Hero crosses into unfamiliar world.
6. Hero encounters obsticals/trials/ordeals.
7. Hero makes final preparations and approaches inner-most cave (figuratively).
8. Hero has major ordeal.
9. Hero gains a reward.
10. Hero returns to familiar world.
11. Hero faces a climactic ordeal that transforms himself.
12. Hero's ordinary world is returned to normal stability with hero's success.

Give me any story (that I would know) and I'll put it in those steps.
Plenty of stories don't follow that, at all. Off the top of my head, I thought of Homer's Odyssey.

[Stuntman]

Also, Cold Tom.

[Sperry]

Two things:

1. What You Ought to Know. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRy2KL2MvEo)
2. Shakespeare.

[Joest]

Two things:

1. What You Ought to Know. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRy2KL2MvEo)
2. Shakespeare.
Shakespeare is dead and WYOTK may be canceled forever.

[Vagrant]

Have any of you heard of the Heroic Journey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth)? ALL stores have the exact same basic outline.

1. Hero is in their familiar world (doesn't have to be physical).
2. Something causes unrest in familiar world and hero is called to solve it.
3. Hero has some form of hesitation to the call.
4. Hero meets a teacher (or mentor, etc. It can even be himself).
5. Hero crosses into unfamiliar world.
6. Hero encounters obsticals/trials/ordeals.
7. Hero makes final preparations and approaches inner-most cave (figuratively).
8. Hero has major ordeal.
9. Hero gains a reward.
10. Hero returns to familiar world.
11. Hero faces a climactic ordeal that transforms himself.
12. Hero's ordinary world is returned to normal stability with hero's success.

Give me any story (that I would know) and I'll put it in those steps.

1. Gordon Freeman is down in the lab.
2. Suddenly a cascade event occurs, and Xen creatures show up.
3. ... I think Gordon just grabs a crowbar and starts swinging.
4. ... nope.
5. Gordon heads to Xen!
6. Hundreds of baddies might count as an obstacle. So might scripted events.
7. I'm pretty sure he doesn't prepare for it so much as rush headlong into it.
8. He wins.
9. He gets put on stasis.
10. ^
11. ^
12. ^

[4D_]

Plenty of stories don't follow that, at all. Off the top of my head, I thought of Homer's Odyssey.
No, trust me, pretty much ALL stories follow it, just sometimes things have to be stretched. Anyways, Homer's Odyssey:

1. Odysseus is living on the island with Calypso (this is more of a mental and spiritual rest stop, so this one's a bit of a strech, but it still fits.)
2. Hermes travels to the island and tells Calypso that Zeus allows him to be free, who then tells Odysseus.
3. Odysseus reacts subbornly and thinks that Calypso is tricking him.
4. Athena has always been Odysseus's mentor.
5. Odysseus agrees to leave the island.
6. Poseidon is pissed and wreaks Odysseus's raft.
7. Odysseus returns to his homeland, sees what has become of it, meets his son, and begins to make a plan to test the suitors and servants of their loyalty.
8. Odysseus kills all the suitors in the courtyard of the palace.
9. Odysseus wins his place of power again, as well as his wife and son.
10. Odysseus begins his journey to find his father and kill his enemies so that he could live in peace. Odysseus is successful and kills all of them.
11. Odysseus has finally defeated all of his enemies and can now live peacefully.
12. Odysseus's loyal friends hear of his success and everyone is happy.

I could not remember the story well, it was a few years ago when I had read it, so I used this website (http://library.thinkquest.org/19300/data/Odyssey/odysseus2.htm) to make the arc. There's another one on that page below it if this one doesn't fit right to you.

[danny405]

lulwut nice vid

[Sebian]

The first video is full of furries.




Stop fapping, Stuntman.