Ban Candidates

[vaga]

Since admins so rarely show up in the lobby, I kind of thought it would be nice to have a topic on this. If any player noticed bad or violent behaviour - spamming or insulting for no reason in the lobby, he could put that user's name here and paste the screenshot proving it.

Should any members name appear on the list for more than 2 times, a ban from Brotherhood of Battle would follow and admins would have all the proofs they need here.

I notice things sometimes go totally out of control, without people in charge to sort out the mess. If this is unneccessary, feel free to erase this topic...

[JDitto]

Not a bad idea, actually.

[Pwnd.XD]

Concept is okay, but I don't like it.

If admins rarely get on, it would be hard for them to find the abuser and ban them wouldn't it? And that wouldn't stop that particular person from using an alt to spam or just be a guest.

Also I believe every player should at least get a fair warning. Our admins are respectable and don't abuse their powers (Azunaki is just strict). They couldn't just get on and ban them, but if they told them they were about to get banned they would probably just leave.

[Corrupted]

pwnd is right the idea of it is good but it would still require us to be online to check.

[vaga]

Well, that's true. Both Pwnd.XD and Corrupted, you are unfortunately right.

On the other hand, at least there would be proof of it here for possible future ban. If nothing else, this list could help those people who come primarily to enjoy the game (not to get insulted for nothing) to get acknowledged about who to avoid - if it's impossible to choose opponent in quick play, then at least for custom games. Even that means something.
I don't know for others, but I'm fed up of some players constantly insulting me and others - in worst case, it causes honest people to lose interest and don't come anymore.

Is there no way for upgrading some accounts of players which are known to be fair/trustworthy/reliable and show up regularly in the lobby to administrative status? I think there should be at least one admin present in the lobby at all times.

[Corrupted]

not with out monkeey and i can't seem to get a hold of him soo...

[Harv]

Yeh even on his NG account, no activity from him since November.

And I understand that we are not on 24/7 but it's hard since I live in the UK which GMT however I have people such as Baronraider who I completely trust who can go on during American/Canadian times and I know he is on as often as I am.

[Corrupted]

this game is a cool game it just didn't have enough of a fan base...

[SireSideous]

Well a little trick that will help with spam and abusive behavior is a reporting progam that maintains a temporary history of lobby posts...say two minutes worth. There can be a report button in the lobby area, that if any player observes spam or abusive behavior.. which I have witness many times before... the player can clik the report button, which requires them to sign their player name, and it will send a summary of the last two minutes of the lobby activity to the designated admin. Requiring a signature will prevent abuse of the reporting system. Anyone that abuses this system would also risk being banned.

This type of progam will alleviate having to have an admin on all the time and it will also provide verifiable proof of who is violating the rules...whereas just having a player report another twice, without actual proof, could become abused itself. All you need is a player with a grudge against another!

[Corrupted]

....i like the idea of just saving a screen shot more....(then we won't have random accounts sending hundreds of those things at random admins....)

[SireSideous]

the problem with a screen shot, is depending on the amount of lobby activity, the abuser/spammer post may be expired by the time the abuse is reported, as each new post in the lobby removes the oldest post (if the lobby post is full). A 2-minute log, should prevent this if abuse is reported immediately.

As far as random admins., that's why i said the reports should be forwarded to designatedadmins.. a select few. Also by requiring the player signature, it holds that reporter liable if the report is false. Should also include a brief narrative section for the reporter to describe the abuse/spam. Consequences of making a false report should be posted on the abuse reporting screen. Any intentional false reports should result in the possibility of being banned.

[Corrupted]

only thing is if it is just some random account then liable won't mean anything. and how is a screen shot bad it doesn't start deleting things for a long time (can last well over 2 mins) and people have done just fine with screen shots.

[SireSideous]

when the user post area is full, it removes the oldest post from the screen, there is no way to see it.. therefore if the room is full players posting or the reporter is slow in reporting the abuse.. a screen shot of the lobby posts may not include the actual abuser post... (ive posted in the lobby when it is busy and watched my post quickly move up and be removed...all within a minute's time)

If the reporting program maintained a minimum 2 minute history of posts, .. even if the room is full or the reporter is a little slow... it should still record the abusive post.

[vaga]

No offence, SireSideous, but i think you misunderstood the whole concept of this. With expiration and removal of text from screen, you probably meant it happens when you're active in lobby. That's the exact reason why I think taking a screenshot of prohibited activity and posting it here would be good so it's always at hand should somebody need it.

For instance, here's an obvious example of chat abuse by member ray4723 that happened quite awhile ago, proofs for it in the lobby long gone and remaining only on this printed screen:

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv164/azure_soul/bob001.jpg


Note that this is shown just for example, though. I have never seen this ray to spam in the lobby again and think insulting other members for no reason is by far worse, so I didn't mention his case or name as a potential ban candidate. He's just got the honor to be shown as an example...:D

[Corrupted]

lol nice vaga. and yea sire you defiantly have the entire idea of it wrong.

[SireSideous]

NO, I dont have it wrong, I knew exactly what u meant by a screen shot. But I was thinking in the direction of having the report being generated upon an abuse report menu..Plus, not everyone knows how to take a screen shot. That's why I suggested a reporting button, which links to a report menu. I'm not sure if you guys understood what I'm trying to describe..

The screen shot by individual players could be quickest, if reported as soon as spam/abusive posts are made. But for those players that don't know how to take screen shots, there would need to be instructions.. by the time a player reads these instructions and makes the report, the abusive post could be gone from the lobby. (face it.. most prolly wont read these instructions until they need them).

Vaga, yes, I was referring to the post expiration in the lobby area.. if a screen shot is not taken promptly after an abusive post is made, it is hightly possibly in a very active lobby, that the abusive post will be removed from the screen lobby area... that is why I suggested maintaining the two minute lobby history. Again, this refers back to the previous paragraph.

This is why I suggested the report button, which links to a menu. It can be completely automated to take the screen shot or 2-minutes history of lobby post, whichever...All a player needs to do to report abuse is clik the Report Abuse button, fill in the violating player's username(optional if you use a screen shot), fill in the reporting player's username and clik send. You can designate which Admins. get this report as well.

No need to try and figure out how to make a screen copy or where to go to send it.. therefore using less time to report abuse.

And just to clear things up fellas... I'm no teenager, I'm not new to computer tech.

[SireSideous]

To further explain this.. what I mean by a 2-minute lobby history is essentially the same thing you would get from a screen shot, just in a different format, and obviously including posts from 2 minutes prior to and up to the abuse report time.

[Corrupted]

.....umm i know some people don't know how to take a screen shot(its kinda sad casue its a button on the keyboard....) but any way.

i get exactly what you are saying and im saying that i find screen shots much easier to handle. along with the slight possibility that if we did have a report button some one might decide to find out how much the server can take, and its not hard to tell some on the key after F12 is print screen then just paste it into paint or something then save it. it mite not be as simple but saving things to the server can get very pain stacking.

[vaga]

Of course you're not a teenager Sire - by the ways you behave, I never had you for one honestly. If any offence was taken from our "misunderstanding" then again - none was intended as when reading your post I kind of got a feeling you are slightly upset about it.

It's a nice idea you got there. You are, however, overlooking one single most important fact - moonkey, the only person with access to the game code as far as it's known to me, doesn't appear to be around Brotherhood of Battle anymore. This way even things that should be simple enough like swapping maps in quick play are a problem, let alone altering the game code to make adjustments which you have in mind.

I kind of thought posting a screen shot would be, because of reason mentioned above, the most appropriate solution at the time. And yes, I definitely agree with Azunaki that it's sad people who regularly use computer don't know as how to make a proper screen shot. Print Screen button; CTRL + V in Microsoft's Paint which every Windows based computer has; saving the new "painting" and ... tadaaa... there you have it! :D

[Harv]

This really is pointless seeing as Moonkey isn't even here... If you does every come back on you can tell him this and he will decide.

[Corrupted]

yea your right. (i even went to the site he works at and he hasn't been there for months...)

[vaga]

cmonster3037212, 12. February 2009



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[Corrupted]

hey master mind explaining why you never went on and banned him?

[MASTER.1]

Edit

That Guy Was A Noob I Banned Him Twise For 1 hour After He Came Back He Said Who Banned Me Then I Said I Did Then He Said Your A ##### Then I Banned Him Again

[Corrupted]

oh... you should use my philosophy. double it each ban (so 1 2 4 6 12 24) lol thats shuts em up pretty quickly

[MASTER.1]

I Like Your Philosphy But I Like To Ban For 24 Hours Or More For Only Cheating xP

[Corrupted]

that won't get you far in the other things though.

[MASTER.1]

I Dont Want Players To Hate Harvir ROFL

[Corrupted]

lol(no make them like me more)

[MASTER.1]

ROFL I Wont Do That For My Friend xD

[BungieBoy]

Hi i know i havent been playing alot but ill try my best.

[Corrupted]

lol hey bungie glad to actually see you for ounce.

[MASTER.1]

ROFL I Was Thinking Bungie Was Dead

[Corrupted]

lol

[Harv]

My laptop has been out for a while so I haven't been on either but it's workign now... just lose everything. All my programs, downloads, work and even my BoB maps.

[Corrupted]

ouch harvir so you only have a laptop..

[Harv]

No my computer is gay and doesn't work with BoB anymore >_>

[Pwnd.XD]

I don't think your computer has a sexual preference. Rofl :P

[dakohawk]

Yeah not all computers do, mines proabaly lesbian, it has like a dozen female parts in the back of it.

[Casper42o0]

I think this is just a hopeless attempt to ban people, honestly by now I think its clear that people aka the admins have real lifes and cant consume their entire day with worrying about people on B.O.B honestly I think the best solution is simple realy.. You see the ignore buttin?.. someone gettin on ur nerves? instead of crying about it simply block them.. omg thats to hard for ppl tho.. they rather rage at admins for being inactive.. seriously.. just block them :) problem solved within seconds..

[Pwnd.XD]

I think I mentionted that earlier.

[sashka93]

I think I mentionted that earlier.

Ya you did mention that earlier.