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Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:30 AM
A black hole really can collapse in on itself. If after formation a black hole's inner core collapses, it can fold in on itself and create another black hole over itself. I'm not kidding.

Discuss, debate, whatever.

Blaze Zero-Three
07-19-2008, 01:34 AM
Last I checked, gravity pulls on time and my feet, not more gravity...

[I see what you did there over there. /me points]

Can you cite your references?

moonm325
07-19-2008, 01:35 AM
Why?

EDIT: Damn it, Blaze. That "why" was for the OP.

Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:36 AM
No, it's just my logic kicking up. Citing is impossible as I just thought of the possibility of a black hole's core collapsing and folding over itself.

moonm325
07-19-2008, 01:41 AM
You maka no sense, I'm sorrah to say.

Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:42 AM
Probably because you're not thinking what I think I'm not thinking.

/Dumb question: what does OP mean?

Ignatz
07-19-2008, 01:50 AM
/Dumb question: what does OP mean

I've always assumed that it means original poster.

Ontopic: I have nothing to say about black holes at this time.

Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:51 AM
I want to know what happens if you implode a naked singularity.

Offtopic: o i c . Ignatz, <3

Awakening
07-19-2008, 01:52 AM
OP = original poster, you

Also, I don't think we can readily verify that statement until we actually observe a blackhole, outside all of the constant scientific postulations.

Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:54 AM
Good point, Awakening. Still, black holes are interesting, even though they are wrongly named. They are not holes.

Also, dark matter.

Hapland_stick
07-19-2008, 01:58 AM
Last I checked, gravity pulls on time and my feet, not more gravity...

[I see what you did there over there. /me points]

Can you cite your references?


gravity?
in space?
preposterous!

Circuit
07-19-2008, 01:59 AM
There is gravity in space.

moonm325
07-19-2008, 02:00 AM
It's yummy?

Hapland_stick
07-19-2008, 02:11 AM
there is?
then where does it lead

Circuit
07-19-2008, 03:02 AM
Double post. Gravity tastes like binary code.

Doug05257
07-19-2008, 03:07 AM
Oh my, this is pure genius! I've never thought about it in this way before. We must inform Stephen Hawking at once!

Lumeh
07-19-2008, 04:40 PM
Many scientific marvels are as interesting or important as they are because they aren't redundant. We know what water is made of, because one day we will need to make it ourselves. We know how organs work, so we can fix them.

We don't need to know that if a black hole implodes on itself, a new one is created with the same density and volume in the same spot in space, because the end result of this process is the same as if the black hole never imploded to begin with, and thus, nothing happened.

DarkReality
07-19-2008, 06:15 PM
How do you plan on debating over something like this? You made a vague claim that's most likely as useful as stating that water is wet. It could be true but simplifies an incredibly complex subject.

Many scientific marvels are as interesting or important as they are because they aren't redundant. We know what water is made of, because one day we will need to make it ourselves. We know how organs work, so we can fix them.

We don't need to know that if a black hole implodes on itself, a new one is created with the same density and volume in the same spot in space, because the end result of this process is the same as if the black hole never imploded to begin with, and thus, nothing happened.

Science is interesting for the sake of knowledge, not for the sake of results. Imagine that by understanding the mechanism of a black hole imploding, we could develop a method to effectively travel through space quicker than the speed of light. maybe not as a direct result but as a starting stone. Most physical theories (such as Einstein's special relativity) didn't find practical use until the necessary technology was developed years later (in this case, accelerators capable of getting particles to almost-lightspeed).

Don't speak for the rest of us simply because you only care for results.

Vagrant
07-19-2008, 06:28 PM
Although it is interesting that if two black holes collide with each other, they should just make a larger black hole. :P

AssaultRifle
07-19-2008, 08:15 PM
there is?
then where does it lead
Age: 26

I lol'd.


Anyway, if you have no facts to back up your statement, OP, I suggest you don't go parading around with a thread named "It's not a false statement" when in fact, it is just something you thought of out of nowhere.

It could indeed be possible, though.

Hapland_stick
07-19-2008, 08:21 PM
if a black hole folded over it self then it would continue sucking on its self and folding and folding and folding and in each fold moving it which could lead to the destruction of a solar system
cause when a black hole sucks something it doesnt disapear into another galaxy
black holes arent portals
they just like a giant vacuum that just blow every thing it sucks out the other end
so if it were to be folding and sucking it self then it would keep pushing it self
and if this ever does happen then i think we can all safely agree on who to blame it on
(circuitboard)

moonm325
07-20-2008, 01:20 AM
Now you are making no sense! We know black holes aren't portals. Portals are orange and blue. Not black.

But anyways, as RDD said, you aren't really giving us much to go on. "Spoon or Fork. Go." isn't the best topic.

Mr. Goodbar
07-20-2008, 08:39 AM
As far as we understand them now, a black hole, by definition, is formed by something collapsing in on itself. Its own gravity is constantly pulling matter in and collapsing itself further. This is the reason we say that they have infinite density/zero volume/other interesting stuffs.

As far as two black holes colliding goes, I've seen some epic History Channel specials that address this well. Relativity along with some other stuff pretty much means black hole + black hole = massive unsurvivable explosion

Hapland_stick
07-20-2008, 12:17 PM
As far as we understand them now, a black hole, by definition, is formed by something collapsing in on itself. Its own gravity is constantly pulling matter in and collapsing itself further. This is the reason we say that they have infinite density/zero volume/other interesting stuffs.

As far as two black holes colliding goes, I've seen some epic History Channel specials that address this well. Relativity along with some other stuff pretty much means black hole + black hole = massive unsurvivable explosion

Big Bang**

Mr. Goodbar
07-20-2008, 06:52 PM
That's not quite what I meant. Something more along the lines of Gamma ray bursts and massive ripples in space-time. No Big Bang as far as I know.

DarkReality
07-21-2008, 07:18 AM
But anyways, as RDD said, you aren't really giving us much to go on. "Spoon or Fork. Go." isn't the best topic.

Spork. Discussion over.

>_>

Internet God
07-21-2008, 03:32 PM
Wait....so there is something out there?!

Circuit
07-22-2008, 02:47 AM
Possibly.

moonm325
07-22-2008, 12:44 PM
Spork. Discussion over.

>_>I knew somebody was going to say that, RDD.