Tophat has been banned for a week (II)

[DarkReality]

This thread has two reasons: I'm getting a bit annoyed by topics being locked simply because they discuss something absolutely unnecessary. Like TopHat's banning. The members who flamed like crazy in that topic were banned themselves, so there's no need to close the topic in an attempt to stop horrendous flaming. And this isn't the only thread this has happened to. There were some potential debates that were simply locked because someone thought they were getting too ugly. Alright, this wasn't exactly turning into a great debate, but the topic locking spree is incredibly annoying. As in "beyond any hope"-annoying and "this could be the reason XGen is boring"-annoying.

Or the discussion on the kid who asked if any gays we're "In here" tonight? That was turning into a semi-decent debate. But noooo, it was locked.

You're being modded because you're being idiots.
That was NoClue's response to the "Vorpals being oppressed" thread with an automatic lock. But threads about games (which are in the wrong forum, I might add) remain unchanged and unmoved, idiots can ask if you can get banned for speaking l33t (which is ALSO in the wrong forum, I might add), and a whoooooole lot of cruddy topics of people acting like idiots remain unchanged. Why? I do not know and I care not to. So what's my point? I don't know, find one yourself. But were they banned for acting like idiots? I mean, sure, Coolryguy was swearing to no end, and so was Randy, but the rest of 'em? Atticus was making redundant topics, but the main reason is still that they were acting like idiots. So... why not just mass ban the entire motherload forum posters? Because I don't feel any incredibly strong aura of intelligence emitting from that corner of the room.

The second reason is I love undermining people's authority. So my reply as it would have looked after NIN's post in part 1 of the topic:

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hehe imma get praised...good ****! I do alot more than you ****ing do ABC!

LOL!! ****!!!

dumbarse. I'd tell you to go away, but that seems to have taken care of itself. You do jack.... and jack likes it >_>

also top hat > everyone

Oh yea, let's jump on the bandwagon and praise TopHat. You're reeeaaaal cool.

Did the entire Vorpals society get group banned? I guess this is what the new banning system incites. Mass suicides that only take a single day. Oh well, the thread was hilarious.

And stop with the WTC sigs. I'm serious.

Don't be overly emotional. It's not like they're mocking it in any way. Or what, am I not allowed to put the star of David in my sig because I'm german and the rest explains itself? What happened happened, not much anyone can do about it now, now is there. If they want to make a sig of a mentally handicapped person shooting lasers out of her eyes at the twin towers, let them. If anyone gets "offended" then I suggest they rethink their life a bit and toughen up.

So much for that. And damnit, the topic was closed. Time to make part 2.

[Icetetter]

I read the first half... too long -.- I agree. The Xgen mods need to take it down a bit. Closing topics left and right would eventually kill Xgen's popularity. Banning members for a day's stupidity isnt very wise either. Some may get pissed off and just dos the crap outta Xgen...

[Impulse]

I don't see a problem with the locking of the current threads, but with who is banned.

Although they should be back today, it would be rather nice to see a list of why everyone was banned. Perhaps in this thread, even. Unfortunately, I don't expect this thread to stay un-locked in the future; even though it was made by RDD.

I'm seeing some users with 'banned' under their names for saying "***" for example (MMac). Surely he said something else that would actually merit a banning? That word is not starred out, and seeing it in asterisks and a 'banned' title under a user's name for saying it seems completely unjust. I wasn't on last night, so if anyone can clarify as to why each person is banned, that would help me surely along with others.

I can understand other bannings very clearly, however.

[Jshall]

Don't be overly emotional. It's not like they're mocking it in any way. Or what, am I not allowed to put the star of David in my sig because I'm german and the rest explains itself? What happened happened, not much anyone can do about it now, now is there. If they want to make a sig of a mentally handicapped person shooting lasers out of her eyes at the twin towers, let them. If anyone gets "offended" then I suggest they rethink their life a bit and toughen up.

What if they had pics of Auswits in thier sigs will "LOL" written all over it. Its not a matter of being "offended" its a matter of them attempting to get people to argue about thier sigs. Which is exactly what happened. And all this is exactly what they wanted to happen. A big flame war.

On another note NIN is back YAY

[Hex]

Wow, 6 bans. And the forum is much quieter... But on the other hand.... 4 fingers and a thumb.

[DarkReality]

What if they had pics of Auswits in thier sigs will "LOL" written all over it. Its not a matter of being "offended" its a matter of them attempting to get people to argue about thier sigs. Which is exactly what happened. And all this is exactly what they wanted to happen. A big flame war.


And what if they did. I certainly wouldn't be one to complain. What if I had a pencil in my sig, and someone happens to be here who had a 5 year old daughter who was raped and killed with a pencil? Does that mean you can't have a pencil in your sig? And don't anyone dare say something about "Oh, that's only one girl, 9/11 was 5000!" By saying that you give human life a value, as 5000 is more valuable than 1. By giving it a value, you automatically turn it into a statistic. And that already degrades that poor girl more than any picture of a pencil ever will.

I'm seeing some users with 'banned' under their names for saying "***" for example (MMac). Surely he said something else that would actually merit a banning?

Well, TopHat is banned because he cursed at moderators in his own strangely humorous way. At least I don't think it was really meant seriously. In any case, Atticus was banned because he kept making threads about Tophat being banned. Ryan is banned because he went berserk and half of his posts were made up of *'s. Dogbert... probably did something too, knowing him. But I thought asterisks were allowed? Were people banned because of these asterisks or because of excessive usage of them? Because honestly, telling us we can use them and then banning people for using them seems a bit... dunno... unfair? :-p

Of course this topic won't stay open for long, and I wouldn't be surprised if I get a day ban just for the heck of it. At least if I were a mod/admin, I'd be pissed off if someone continued a thread that I locked in the form of a new thread. Now that some time has passed, I'm not quite sure why I made this thread at all. I'm far too childish maybe. Or Infantile, depending on how you want to call it. Dunno. Dun care.

On that note:

We are gathered here today to remember TOPHATMcBABS (http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/taps.mid)

Yay for bandwagon jumping!

[Queen Lioness]

And what if they did. I certainly wouldn't be one to complain. What if I had a pencil in my sig, and someone happens to be here who had a 5 year old daughter who was raped and killed with a pencil? Does that mean you can't have a pencil in your sig? And don't anyone dare say something about "Oh, that's only one girl, 9/11 was 5000!" By saying that you give human life a value, as 5000 is more valuable than 1. By giving it a value, you automatically turn it into a statistic. And that already degrades that poor girl more than any picture of a pencil ever will.



Well, TopHat is banned because he cursed at moderators in his own strangely humorous way. At least I don't think it was really meant seriously. In any case, Atticus was banned because he kept making threads about Tophat being banned. Ryan is banned because he went berserk and half of his posts were made up of *'s. Dogbert... probably did something too, knowing him. But I thought asterisks were allowed? Were people banned because of these asterisks or because of excessive usage of them? Because honestly, telling us we can use them and then banning people for using them seems a bit... dunno... unfair? :-p

Of course this topic won't stay open for long, and I wouldn't be surprised if I get a day ban just for the heck of it. At least if I were a mod/admin, I'd be pissed off if someone continued a thread that I locked in the form of a new thread. Now that some time has passed, I'm not quite sure why I made this thread at all. I'm far too childish maybe. Or Infantile, depending on how you want to call it. Dunno. Dun care.

On that note:

We are gathered here today to remember TOPHATMcBABS (http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/taps.mid)

Yay for bandwagon jumping! That was very offensive to me, since my religon does not value human life

[crusty]

Jan. I love you. Well said.

[Sam]

Very well put.. plus, people flipping out over the WTC pictures are being rediculous.. unless it affected you closely, with a family member or something, you have no reason to stop others from posting scenes depicting it.. and even if you did, you still don't have a reason to stop others.. use adblock if you are a whiny *****.

[befuzz]

The Xgen flame wars have just begun.....

Wow, people who do stuff like piss off mods prolly do deserve to be banned, serves them right, they asked for it.

[Knilt]

Very well put.. plus, people flipping out over the WTC pictures are being rediculous.. unless it affected you closely, with a family member or something, you have no reason to stop others from posting scenes depicting it.. and even if you did, you still don't have a reason to stop others.. use adblock if you are a whiny *****.Plus the option for people who are offended to leave, which is always the best solution. Leave the forum, about 4000 people have. >_>

Okay, maybe all of them weren't offended in any way, but you get the point.

And a three thumbs up for RDD. <3

[The Brown Cow]

I think the videogame threads spawn from the lack of the Video Game Club forum. It'd be nice to have that back...

[Jshall]

And what if they did. I certainly wouldn't be one to complain. What if I had a pencil in my sig, and someone happens to be here who had a 5 year old daughter who was raped and killed with a pencil? Does that mean you can't have a pencil in your sig? And don't anyone dare say something about "Oh, that's only one girl, 9/11 was 5000!" By saying that you give human life a value, as 5000 is more valuable than 1. By giving it a value, you automatically turn it into a statistic. And that already degrades that poor girl more than any picture of a pencil ever will.

Ok I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. And since you hate America and have no respect for human life I dont exspect you to under stand Sept. 11. Personally, I get offended when someone mocks a terrorist event.

[Queen Lioness]

Now, I have good reason for not valuing human life

1. We are ecosystem breakers
2. We are mother earths mistake

and I have a right to my opinions. 9/11 was pointless killing, and I understand that, so if you want a better world, don't call me crazy.

[Freddy]

Cheese, u post a couple of E3/videogame threads and things get all ****ed up.

there are two easy ways to fix the current problem.
1. Give us back out videogame club forum, as TBC said.
2. Quit taking things to heart damnit! The more personal u make things the ****ed things get.

[Sam]

As DR said,

And what if they did. I certainly wouldn't be one to complain. What if I had a pencil in my sig, and someone happens to be here who had a 5 year old daughter who was raped and killed with a pencil? Does that mean you can't have a pencil in your sig? And don't anyone dare say something about "Oh, that's only one girl, 9/11 was 5000!" By saying that you give human life a value, as 5000 is more valuable than 1. By giving it a value, you automatically turn it into a statistic. And that already degrades that poor girl more than any picture of a pencil ever will.

[Sparky]

Ok I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. And since you hate America and have no respect for human life I dont exspect you to under stand Sept. 11. Personally, I get offended when someone mocks a terrorist event.
Where do you get off telling someone they hate America and have no respect for human life when they never said it. Do you mock the invasion of Iraq, if you do, you should be offended

[Sam]

I hate people who are against the Iraq war just 'cause everyone else is, and their only reason is 'But they are killing so many people'


I hate uneducated conformist youth who have no idea of the real problems..

[Jshall]

Where do you get off telling someone they hate America and have no respect for human life when they never said it. Do you mock the invasion of Iraq, if you do, you should be offended

He has time after time bashed our country on cheap shots and is now saying that Sept. 11th isnt that bad and I shouldnt be pissed off when someone mocks it. Hes also an atheist that sees no purpose in human life. I dont mock Iraq( I also have no idea where that remark came from on your part)

[ehntoo]

That was NoClue's response to the "Vorpals being oppressed" thread with an automatic lock. But threads about games (which are in the wrong forum, I might add) remain unchanged and unmoved, idiots can ask if you can get banned for speaking l33t (which is ALSO in the wrong forum, I might add), and a whoooooole lot of cruddy topics of people acting like idiots remain unchanged. Why? I do not know and I care not to. So what's my point? I don't know, find one yourself. But were they banned for acting like idiots? I mean, sure, Coolryguy was swearing to no end, and so was Randy, but the rest of 'em? Atticus was making redundant topics, but the main reason is still that they were acting like idiots. So... why not just mass ban the entire motherload forum posters? Because I don't feel any incredibly strong aura of intelligence emitting from that corner of the room.

In defense of myself:

I did not do any of the modding originally. I was referring to their recent, unarguably idiotic acts.

They weren't banned for stars, but rather the flames that surrounded them.

I didn't lock most of the threads being complained about. Not the video game threads *never saw those*, not the gays topic, nothing. Just all the ones about vorpals that were naught but spam.

[mattz1010]

He has time after time bashed our country on cheap shots and is now saying that Sept. 11th isnt that bad and I shouldnt be pissed off when someone mocks it. Hes also an atheist that sees no purpose in human life. I dont mock Iraq( I also have no idea where that remark came from on your part)

I have a value on human life.

Only ones which will be useful in the future deserve to live. Sorry, but that's the way I view it. Do you LIKE crime?

I'm an atheist, because Religion is based on Faith, and Proof denies Faith (or so I've heard) I grew up without religion, and learned Science first. Therefore, I don't believe in religion, although, someday, maybe I will.

I don't "mock" The War on Iraq, I believe that it wasn't a wise choice to do it.

5000 people is nothing compared to the millions that died in the Holocaust. Enough said.
The estimates vary from around 4.1 to 6.0 million, with more recent research supporting an even higher figure

There you go.

[Jshall]

I have a value on human life.

Only ones which will be useful in the future deserve to live. Sorry, but that's the way I view it. Do you LIKE crime?

I'm an atheist, because Religion is based on Faith, and Proof denies Faith (or so I've heard) I grew up without religion, and learned Science first. Therefore, I don't believe in religion, although, someday, maybe I will.

I don't "mock" The War on Iraq, I believe that it wasn't a wise choice to do it.

5000 people is nothing compared to the millions that died in the Holocaust. Enough said.


There you go.

Was anyone questioning your morals? Or even addressing you? NOPE! So what if 5 million people died in the holocost. Does that mean that anything less than 5 million isnt bad or isnt a crime? Does that mean that its ok to kill people as long as it isnt 5 million people?

[mattz1010]

Was anyone questioning your morals? Or even addressing you? NOPE! So what if 5 million people died in the holocost. Does that mean that anything less than 5 million isnt bad or isnt a crime? Does that mean that its ok to kill people as long as it isnt 5 million people?

Looks like I'm being followed.

Why are you questioning my RIGHT to post in a goddamn topic. Seriously. What. Is. Your. Problem.
It doesn't matter whether anyone's questioning me, I'm going to stand up for someone I think is being unjustly punished.

No, it doesn't mean anything less than 5 million isn't bad. I'm telling you what's WORSE, so don't spaz at something that is 1000 times smaller.

[c00lryguy]

He has time after time bashed our country on cheap shots and is now saying that Sept. 11th isnt that bad and I shouldnt be pissed off when someone mocks it. Hes also an atheist that sees no purpose in human life. I dont mock Iraq( I also have no idea where that remark came from on your part)

that is one of the most offencive comments ive ever heard.
You say atheists see no purpose in human life? atheist just means he doesnt belive in god. I'm atheist and i care about human lives. face it jshall. YOU ARE A RACIST.

[nin]

Look, see the title under my name? See how long I've been here? All but one month of that I have been in some form of power. Respect the mods/admins decisions, or leave the forum. Nough said. I'm getting tired of this. Very tired. I was effected closely by the loss in NY. I have my reasons. Accept it or leave. Simple enough for you, children?

[Lui]

I agree to to nin, after all this years we didn't notice that the admins and mods were getting tired of us, because of doing all this stupid stuff.
we should give them a break, you know it is hard being a admin or moderator, you have to keep up to stuff and all.

lets just say sorry to them and try our best not to do it again.

Sorry Administrators and Moderators.

[DarkReality]

That was very offensive to me, since my religon does not value human life

I can't tell whether I should be afraid of you or if I like your religion. In either case, I don't care. No one forced you to read it :D

Jan. I love you. Well said.

*feels loved*

Ok I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. And since you hate America and have no respect for human life I dont exspect you to under stand Sept. 11. Personally, I get offended when someone mocks a terrorist event.

Reading what I wrote would be a start to understanding what i said. If it makes it any easier, imagine it was a terrorist who killed that poor girl with a pencil (jesus, this is getting too ridiculous >_<). And I don't hate America. Even if I did, I still would be able to fully grasp an event such as September 11th. However, I see it far more objectively. Maybe because it didn't happen in my country, maybe because I'm a cynical arse, maybe because I see things for what they are. Probably a mixture, with more cynical arse than anything else. But why would you get offended if someone mocks a "terrorist event"? Hell, you'd have to be offended each time a car exploded in a movie, because that's rather common in the middle east nowadays. Although it's nowhere near as "cool" as it is in movies. Given the circumstances and deaths.

Now, I have good reason for not valuing human life

1. We are ecosystem breakers
2. We are mother earths mistake

and I have a right to my opinions. 9/11 was pointless killing, and I understand that, so if you want a better world, don't call me crazy.

I just decided. I love your religion.

Cheese, u post a couple of E3/videogame threads and things get all ****ed up.

Milk, that was only an example. There are far more stupid threads. In fact, those aren't even stupid, I completely forgot that the video game club was gone with all the others as well. I might as well have mentioned the motherload and srpg2 forums and their massively redundant threads. Although banning those members, who make a grand total of 3 posts most of the time, for a day seems rather redundant in itself, because then you get threads along the lines of "OMGWTFLIEK I WUS BANND!°!!1" everywhere. Which warrants more banning. And more threads.

That said, the video game threads were only an example because they were appearing au masse.

He has time after time bashed our country on cheap shots and is now saying that Sept. 11th isnt that bad and I shouldnt be pissed off when someone mocks it. Hes also an atheist that sees no purpose in human life. I dont mock Iraq( I also have no idea where that remark came from on your part)

Alright. time for some justification.
1) I do bash your country, but mostly due to some selected problems. Gun control or lack thereof and Bush are basically my two problems with america. I know there are more faces to it than that. And yes, my bashing was unwarranted sometimes.
2) I did not say sept. 11th wasn't bad. Of course it was bad. People died. That's bad. At least when they die like that. I simply said that it's a bit overblown to get overly emotional over it and getting teary eyed each time you see a burning tower.
3) I do see a purpose in human life and just because I may not share your religion doesn't mean that I'm some pseudo-goth who thinks everything's pointless. I could go on and say that you don't see the true value of human life due to your belief in something greater, but I'll leave that tangent for now.

No need to defend yourself, NoClue. On the contrary, you were one of the only responsibles who gave a reason, apart from NIN I believe. Who probably did the other banning. Making that statement utterly pointless >_< But nothing personal against you.

Was anyone questioning your morals? Or even addressing you? NOPE! So what if 5 million people died in the holocost. Does that mean that anything less than 5 million isnt bad or isnt a crime? Does that mean that its ok to kill people as long as it isnt 5 million people?

No, it means I should be offended by effing shower heads -_-.

Look, see the title under my name? See how long I've been here? All but one month of that I have been in some form of power. Respect the mods/admins decisions, or leave the forum. Nough said. I'm getting tired of this. Very tired. I was effected closely by the loss in NY. I have my reasons. Accept it or leave. Simple enough for you, children?

I'm fully aware that many people were affected, directly and indirectly, and I'm not saying that people shouldn't be. But being overly emotional about it is unnecessary. No one censors games in which you have to hunt Saddam/Osama, or have to guide a rocket through a cave or games about finding WMD's. No one's even offended by them. Cause it's nonsense. But I'm sure those families who lost members due to Saddam during his reign found it anything but humorous. If you're affected, fine, no need to force that upon others, though, as some people simply weren't affected. And that doesn't mean they don't value human life, to come back on JShall's comment.

I agree to to nin, after all this years we didn't notice that the admins and mods were getting tired of us, because of doing all this stupid stuff.

Hold on there, buddy. You've been here for a month. I dunno if you could talk about "All these years". And mods/admins getting tired of us? Waaaait... I could have sworn they're here indirectly because of us...? Give them a break? No one's forcing them. Their job is to make sure these boards stay semi-civil. I never signed anything saying that I'm going to make their job easy. Because ironically, if we do, then they suddenly don't have a job. Throwing us all into a paradox and ending our existance. Well, not really, but that would be interesting.

Look on the bright side, it brought back some life, and if no one locks this (which would be irony at it's best), then this could turn into a really cool thread. Because so far, it's been quite fun to reread.

[Jshall]

that is one of the most offencive comments ive ever heard.
You say atheists see no purpose in human life? atheist just means he doesnt belive in god. I'm atheist and i care about human lives. face it jshall. YOU ARE A RACIST.

I wasnt aware that atheism was a race.... OH wait its not your just stupid.

[DarkReality]

'course we are!

>_>

I think something like "prejudice" would have fit better.

OH wait its not your just stupid.

Whose stupid is it then?

[Queen Lioness]

POINT: some people value human life, some don't. The ones wo value it will lead to world overpopulation and distruction of animal habitats and eycosystems

[h00pla]

point: we also are pro-war meaning we kill humans as we create them, and it's basic darwin here, humans are more fit therefore we take over other habitats to support ourselves, im sure the squirrels around the world would give a damn about us if they could live without fear

[DarkReality]

There's a difference between "more fit" and destroying the ecosystem. Darwinism doesn't speak of a complete take over. Squirells and humans inhabit completely different habitats, meaning survival of the fittest doesn't apply.

And despite everything, we're still the only being that actively destroys the ecosystem rather than only live in it.

[h00pla]

darwin wouldn't speak of a complete takeover because nothing would be able to perform a complete take over.

And despite everything, we're still the only being that actively destroys the ecosystem rather than only live in it.

I would say that's because we are the only beings able to actively destroy an ecosystem

[Queen Lioness]

Exactly. We are the only eings able to dystroy an eycosystem, therefore mother earths mistake. I, like many of my other WWF members would give my life for a living planet

[h00pla]

I, like many of my other WWF members would give my life for a living planet

World Wrestling Federation?

And "Mother Earth" doesn't make mistakes, "Mother Earth" is fantasy created to make people feel better, or maybe just a chunk of elements floating in an infinitely large universe, I could be wrong

[Freddy]

why would wrestlers give their life for a the planet? They're dumb ***es.

[Queen Lioness]

World WILDLIFE federation

and I say god is a fantasy. It takes more work to insult than to understand

[h00pla]

It takes more work to insult than to understand

Not true at all. Let's look at my physics class, rather than understand the theory of relativity I can just say "Screw you, I'm gonna sleep instead"

Much easier than understanding

[Queen Lioness]

I mean coming up with a GOOD insult. and i mean understanding BELIEFS.

[h00pla]

well make it more specific

and a good insult is all from your point of view, someone may think the insult or being called a nazi was good, but if you called me one I'd think you had an IQ lower than an eggplant, and I don't understand serial killers beliefs nor do i really want to, same goes for insane environmentalists, which you may or may not fall under

[ODDDLY]

His ban was a crime; you should be ashamed of yourself; you know who you are.

[Lui]

seeeesshhhh reality dark man...make your own forum and let us do some bad things.
(including saying we dont care if your job is easy or not muhahahaha)
even if i've been here for a month. I have been going to xgen in 2003(2004 maybe or 2002 i forgot)and i was playing srpg while checking the forums of any tips and hints.
I know what happened those days and there were bannes that made people angry and those people got angry at the mods and admins!

[Sam]

So, one thing offends one user, so everything has to change?

Well, I don't like the letter D in usernames.. so.. That has to change.

[mattz1010]

RDD, it's the long weekend, I have time.

You get post of the year award.

Lucky for me, I dont have a D in my name.

Edit: I'm not going to quote it, it's about 2 pages back or so.

[ripht|CoC]

Wow you're back! Wow you're gone!

Wow, I'm back ;)

[ODDDLY]

:-o Smitty has graced us. We are not worthy.

[denacioust]

*bows*

When did he come back?

[ODDDLY]

Today, I guess.

[denacioust]

Well yesterday, under my timezone

[mattz1010]

Wow, your timezone is different from ours by like... 12 hours th... no... wait, that's impossible!

Aah, whatever.

Well, welcome back, smitty.

[nin]

Go away. k thx bye -_-

[Sam]

Look at me, I am gonna abuse my powers as an admin just because I can and it is personally benefitting me.

kthx.

"no you're not, you're banned.. kthx."

[mattz1010]

lololomfg admins ar3 s0 c00l th3ir liek teh bmob!!!!1111

kthxbai

[nin]

You people will respect the wishes of the admins and moderators, or you will leave. We've let you disrespect us and go against our wishes for way to long.

[Jshall]

lololomfg admins ar3 s0 c00l th3ir liek teh bmob!!!!1111

kthxbai

WOW, that was the coolest band wangon jump Ive seen in years. Just ban them.

[Justin]

Take it easy there nin. You're being way too harsh. You're going to drive members away.

[Stoked365]

Nin understand this we are all rule breakers i mean your threatining us all the time and quite frankly im tired of it and so is everyone else

--- Ok... My bad... Pretty button!

[Jshall]

Nin understand this we are all rule breakers i mean your threatining us all the time and quite frankly im tired of it and so is everyone else

Its been an amazing day here at ESPN 12 teh 1337. We have seen more bandwagon jumps than we have in years. People who havent even been remotely involved in this conflict are ALL OVER IT!!! We've seen nOOb after nOOb follow the idiots to thier impending bannination.

[Impulse]

Nin understand this we are all rule breakers i mean your threatining us all the time and quite frankly im tired of it and so is everyone else

Quite frankly, I don't think he cares. You, for one, are the reason he's been on an outrage. He used to be good-tempered. If you want to see the good temper, why not stop complaining and take responsibility for your actions.

Sorry for singling you out. I know you're not the only one responsible.

[nin]

There's just so much we can (or have) to take. We've given you all ample chances to follow our rules. You've used em up apparently....

[mattz1010]

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02-01-2005, 04:36 PM
01-25-2005, 10:42 AM
11-15-2004, 08:11 PM (Umm...)

And you know what?
Everyone on opposite sides of that very old post were on same sides!

Me is thinking something but me can't do anything because me is bad grammarish for noweh.

[Jshall]

NIN please check your private messages.

[mattz1010]

That's spam, thanks.

On a related note, how come you have nothing to say about the time when these people were allies?

[DarkReality]

[/quote]Well, I don't like the letter D in usernames.. so.. That has to change.[/quote]

Veto. Reality el ark sounds odd.

You people will respect the wishes of the admins and moderators, or you will leave. We've let you disrespect us and go against our wishes for way to long.

... considering you've been virtually gone, that's quite something to say. Unless you belonged to the people who simply didn't post. But I recall you saying you were going to be rather inactive due to other things going on that were more important. There IS something funny about your banning spree though. And the edits are quite useful as well. Better than simply banning. Sure, it's killing the argument a bit, but I guess that's a priviledge to enjoy when you're a minority but still infinitely more powerful.

[Jshall]

That's spam, thanks.

On a related note, how come you have nothing to say about the time when these people were allies?

For one this isnt a war so there are no allies. And secondly its not spam since it got dogbert banned.

Nice try tho.

[DarkReality]

If you two are going to argue, could you please put some more sense into it? We want some laughs as well.

[Jshall]

If you two are going to argue, could you please put some more sense into it? We want some laughs as well.

The post he was calling spam got NIN to check his PMs which had a message that I had been PMed by dogbert. WHICH got him banned. There fore it had a purpose. Spam does not.

[noobpwner1]

Hey Nin, if you like to talk about the Vorpals not having the World Trade Centers in their sigs because it is disrespectful, then why don't you practice what you preach and start showing some respect to other members? You can't just ban someone because they speak their mind and you dont agree with it. Stop abusing your power and show some respect.

[Jshall]

Hey Nin, if you like to talk about the Vorpals not having the World Trade Centers in their sigs because it is disrespectful, then why don't you practice what you preach and start showing some respect to other members? You can't just ban someone because they speak their mind and you dont agree with it. Stop abusing your power and show some respect.

How is NIN disrespecting them by politely asking them to stop doing something? numerous times.

They persisted in mocking Sept 11th in more ways than one. They cursed, spamed, and trolled. They would all be banned for a month by the old standards. And should.

[mattz1010]

Noobpwner, standing up to authority, and telling what's right will get you banned, I suggest you edit your post, and I should too.

[DarkReality]

The post he was calling spam got NIN to check his PMs which had a message that I had been PMed by dogbert. WHICH got him banned. There fore it had a purpose. Spam does not.

Except that people are much more likely to notice a new PM than a post directed at them in any given thread.

Hey Nin, if you like to talk about the Vorpals not having the World Trade Centers in their sigs because it is disrespectful, then why don't you practice what you preach and start showing some respect to other members? You can't just ban someone because they speak their mind and you dont agree with it. Stop abusing your power and show some respect.

I can already see the comment: "yes I can. kthxbye -_-". Banned.

They persisted in mocking Sept 11th in more ways than one. They cursed, spamed, and trolled. They would all be banned for a month by the old standards. And should.

For speaking their mind? Woah! Yay for free speech!

[noobpwner1]

I am not editing my post because it is wrong to ban someone for speaking their mind. I did not break any rules, and it would be wrong to ban me.

Look at me, I am gonna abuse my powers as an admin just because I can and it is personally benefitting me.

kthx.

"no you're not, you're banned.. kthx."

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Jshall, you call that respect? Nin baning someone for speaking their mind in a legitimate post?

[DarkReality]

I think the difference between right and wrong is sort of a fuzzy line right now. I say we see how long this banning spree goes on and then we start discussing NIN's capability of being an admin on the forums at least. Because someone who gets ticked off THAT easily... needs a vent. And a forum is really the wrong place. Although turmoil is fun. And what these forums need. Woah, I smell conspiracies.

[nin]

Speaking your mind and persistantly/purpousfly going against what people in charge of the forum say are two different things. This isn't a supreme court case. Posting on this forum is a priviledge, NOT a right. People who have been banned recently for "speaking there mind" either did something we have told them not to or were extremely disrespectful. It's how they presented there "mind" that got them banned, not the fact that they presented it. You people show me/us respect, and we/I will return it.

[DarkReality]

Posting on this forum is a priviledge, NOT a right

So it's a priviledge that we get to play games made by our godly XGen team and support them by turning the forums into an active place and posing as an active fanbase? Excuse me while I excercise my priviledge to laugh like a half-crazed baboon on crack. Posting is a priviledge not a right? Hah... hah! This is getting better by the moment.

[mattz1010]

Well, then I'm at a standpoint.

Someone has to prove to me that I should respect them first. Otherwise, I have no reason to.

Just like the fact that I'm not going to glomp someone by randomly seeing them.

[noobpwner1]

Look at me, I am gonna abuse my powers as an admin just because I can and it is personally benefitting me.

kthx.

"no you're not, you're banned.. kthx."

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Could you explain that?

[Jshall]

Noobpwner, standing up to authority, and telling what's right will get you banned, I suggest you edit your post, and I should too.

What a hard ace you "stood up to authority" on a forum that about 50 people or less read. Man thats goes right up there with protesting Nam. You should get an award.


OH YEAH!!! I forgot that mattz and Noobpwner decided whats right for everyone. They should be mods because they really see both sides of everything and are perfect. Is there no end to your noobish stupidity?

[DarkReality]

JShall, it's now time for you to shut up. I don't quite see the connection with 'nam, as a whole lot of people were affected by it and protested it, but you're just repeating yourself. And apart from that, authority is authority, even if it's only a father of two children. That doesn't change the fact that someone is an authority.

[noobpwner1]

What a hard ace you "stood up to authority" on a forum that about 50 people or less read. Man thats goes right up there with protesting Nam. You should get an award.


OH YEAH!!! I forgot that mattz and Noobpwner decided whats right for everyone. They should be mods because they really see both sides of everything and are perfect. Is there no end to your noobish stupidity?
I dont recall claiming what is right for everyone, nor do I recall requesting to be a mod. All you're doing is you're trying to avoid my question by making false accusations about something completely irrelevant.

[Impulse]

Well, then I'm at a standpoint.

Someone has to prove to me that I should respect them first. Otherwise, I have no reason to.

If you don't believe moderators should be respected for keeping the forums safe and clean (in your own view), then I can't really blame you for being at a standpoint.

Responding with "I don't care if the boards are safe and clean" is fine, but what would lying get you? I think it would be safe to say that you have complained about something and a moderator fixed it at your request (if not, avoid this portion and the next portion of the post). Giving them no respect is simply disrespectful, if that is the case.

[Jshall]

I dont recall claiming what is right for everyone, nor do I recall requesting to be a mod. All you're doing is you're trying to avoid my question by making false accusations about something completely irrelevant.

I asume you are refering to the post this post?

Quote:
Look at me, I am gonna abuse my powers as an admin just because I can and it is personally benefitting me.

kthx.

"no you're not, you're banned.. kthx."

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Last edited by nin : Today at 07:33 PM.

Could you explain that?

Yea I can. Bandit mocked a mod. One time I told a mod to bite me and got my third warning and was banned. Dont disrespect the mods. Follow the freaking rules.

JShall, it's now time for you to shut up. I don't quite see the connection with 'nam, as a whole lot of people were affected by it and protested it, but you're just repeating yourself. And apart from that, authority is authority, even if it's only a father of two children. That doesn't change the fact that someone is an authority.

I know I was mocking him. As for shutting up. Fine. Only because someone I respect said something. Not some popbob-esque noob like mattz or noobpwner.

[noobpwner1]

I disagree with what you think, so I'm a noob. Great logic you have there.

[mattz1010]

If you don't believe moderators should be respected for keeping the forums safe and clean (in your own view), then I can't really blame you for being at a standpoint.

Responding with "I don't care if the boards are safe and clean" is fine, but what would lying get you? I think it would be safe to say that you have complained about something and a moderator fixed it at your request (if not, avoid this portion and the next portion of the post). Giving them no respect is simply disrespectful, if that is the case.

Ignoring the last part, I try not to be an idiot. JShall, before you even say anything about my last sentence - shut up. I don't want to hear your false accusations and/or assumptions.

I've never seen nin around before, I've looked through old posts, and I can't find anything to like, or not to like.

The only posts I've seen by him are the ones that are current.

Although, looking back, he seems not too bad, maybe if we ALL - note that I say not the admins, nor the banned members - had a change of attitude, this would help?
I've gone from Against to Neutral.

Wow, this MANAGED to piss me off.... that's... scary. I've got the highest tolerance... just of about anybody, you won't ever see me mad, it's nearly impossible.
Seeing as that I've calmed down, don't incite me to be mad again. I may say, and follow through on real life threats then.

*I don't want others to die... I know a person who should still be here. Except.. they... well, I'd rather not talk about it.*

[Jshall]

I disagree with what you think, so I'm a noob. Great logic you have there.

No, you jump on the band wagon, repackage other ideas, and try to pass them off as your own. Just like popbob.

Im done here.

[noobpwner1]

No, you jump on the band wagon, repackage other ideas, and try to pass them off as your own. Just like popbob.

Im done here.
What in the world are you talking about? I haven't jumped on any band wagons! I'd like to see one example of any of your accusations.

[mattz1010]

And what do you mean by popbob. You can at least try to insult someone in a way that everyone can understand.

[Mmac27]

And what do you mean by popbob. You can at least try to insult someone in a way that everyone can understand.
popbob was... well i cant say because im scared of being banned again... i hate being banned... lets just say hes a n0.. um... newb...

[mattz1010]

Posted pictures of a certain type which people photographed must be over 18?

[Sperry]

It used to seem to me that nin was literally never on for ages, as his posts were spread out by months on end and the orange name did not usually debut in the various forums. However, He has been around. If someone doesn't post, that doesn't mean they're not here. By all accounts, that means I never leave.

What I'd really like to see is the logic behind the "going to far" and "abuse of power". If abusing power means they do what the rules said, their job, then nin's guilty. The moderators (and likely one or more administrators) worked out the banning system to give the forums some actually rule relevance. Before this was put into action, members could call each other every name in the book and only face an edited post. Now there is something being done. Apparantly giving XGen's forum any dignity at all means that he's a raving lunatic.

[mattz1010]

I think what they mean into abusing is the fact that no admins have been around, and [ no accusations/offense ], but the admins didn't warn anybody, or... slide into the banning system - it was just implemented, heck, I dont even check general. I didn't notice until others were banned. - but, instead, went into full routine of it.

The line was pretty far bent, but I think the line should have bent a bit more for the older members, and a stickied warning in SL - for all n00bs who kept disrespecting the rules. I know the admins don't have time to PM hundreds of members.

If they didn't quickly re-adapt (3-7 days or so) to the new rules, then they would have to take full punishment.
Nor could they exploit the line bending thing, and therefore just spam and post pictures of... ****... Er, you know what I mean.

[Sperry]

The banning system was put into place a fair while before people began to be banned. About half a day, as I recall. Mostly this system was ccreated by moderators, who implemented it. It is in multiple threads in General, two of which are stickied. If anyone is going to bother paying attention to the rules, they will seek them out. No one reads a two page pm about why a certain rule has been put in. There are around 1500 actively posting members. If half visit General and read it, that's fine. Word of mouth works too. They should not need forum-wide announcements for this.

[mattz1010]

>_>
<_<
<_^

Ow.

I don't visit general because I think it's about XGen, and I know nothing, therefore... there's nothing for me to do there.

[TOP HAT McBABS]

Yeah. I agree with noobpwner.

[Blixinator]

TOP HAT IS BACK YAY
yaaaaay

[TOP HAT McBABS]

shhhhh. Don't tell anyone. Let's keep it on the down low

[mattz1010]

TOP HAT IS BACK AND I'M SHOUTING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

[ODDDLY]

What I'd really like to see is the logic behind the "going to far" and "abuse of power". If abusing power means they do what the rules said, their job, then nin's guilty. The moderators (and likely one or more administrators) worked out the banning system to give the forums some actually rule relevance. Before this was put into action, members could call each other every name in the book and only face an edited post. Now there is something being done. Apparantly giving XGen's forum any dignity at all means that he's a raving lunatic.
When a mod\admin edits out a post(s) that could have led to discussion, and then bans, you have gone too far. Posts are only supposed to be edited when somebody is being ridiculously vulgar or something illegal has been posted.

EDIT- spelled something wrong.

[ripht|CoC]

Look, see the title under my name? See how long I've been here? All but one month of that I have been in some form of power. Respect the mods/admins decisions, or leave the forum. Nough said. I'm getting tired of this. Very tired. I was effected closely by the loss in NY. I have my reasons. Accept it or leave. Simple enough for you, children?

*points at post for very specific example of abuse of power"

Using power for personal reasons is abuse of power.
Denying culpability for one's own actions is abuse of power.
Demanding respect while simultaneously erroding any reason to deserve respect is abuse of power.
Giving yourself special privileges irrelevant of your duties is abuse of power.


Oh, and editing someone's (perfectly within the rules) post and banning them for no reason other than the fact that what they said is something you disagree with? Abuse of power. ;)

When precisely did this place become a dictatorship? Last I heard it was a place to come and express yourself and interact with others. Sorry if that doesn't fit some of our personal views of a utopia, but it's the human condition. Learn to deal with it.

[Zip]

There was a post on a forum that I read a quite while ago which was a response to a person who complained about free speech on a forum. I think it went like this...

The constitution of the United States says you may have the right to free speech. However, this forum is owned by <Whatever the owner's name was> and the property of <Owner's name here> and you will respect the rules which you must obey when you use the forum. If you don't wish to obey you are free to leave or you will be given the proper punishment for the crime.

I can't remember the exact post but I remember the idea behind it... "This board is owned by <owner>, he is free to enforce whatever rule he wants in it. If you don't like it then leave." Swearing isn't allowed because even if you need to be 13 to register an account, you could still view the forum without an account. (That includes 7 year olds too)

[Kerry]

*points at post for very specific example of abuse of power"

Using power for personal reasons is abuse of power.
Denying culpability for one's own actions is abuse of power.
Demanding respect while simultaneously erroding any reason to deserve respect is abuse of power.
Giving yourself special privileges irrelevant of your duties is abuse of power.


Oh, and editing someone's (perfectly within the rules) post and banning them for no reason other than the fact that what they said is something you disagree with? Abuse of power. ;)

When precisely did this place become a dictatorship? Last I heard it was a place to come and express yourself and interact with others. Sorry if that doesn't fit some of our personal views of a utopia, but it's the human condition. Learn to deal with it.

I would have done the exact same thing as Mark, Andy.

[nin]

Sigh... Skye would have gotten rid of me long ago if I wasn't fit for modship. Instead, he advanced me up to Admin. The reason you think I am "abusing my power" is because we are ALL sick of putting up with the rule breaking/trolling; and we don't have to. This is, after all, a forum dedicated to www.XGenStudios.com. We could, very easily, make this a place where the only topics/posts allowed are the ones DIRECTLY related to www.xgenstudios.com. Instead, we allow open discussions and encourage members to participate in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiii^10de variety of topics. All we ask for is that you follow the rules set by those who MODERATE the forums. And they arn't even strict rules! Jesus... Compared to some of the other boards, we are verrrry leniant. Give a person an inch, they take a mile. If you like it, great! If you don't, we are NOT holding a gun to your head and forcing you to stay. If you don't like it here... If you don't want to follow our rules... Click the X (usually) in the top right have of your screen.

[Sam]

See, I don't think people should leave because mods and admins are abusing their powers, 'specially for their own benefit. I think the mods should stop doing that, then we can all be happy. I have spent too much time at these forums to leave because someone is abusing their powers. I've done it once with Kerry.

Oh, and why did you say you were gonna ban me, and then didn't? Did you realize that it would've been an injust ban, just like the others, and like the WTC sig removal?

If that was why you didn't, bravo for realizing your mistakes... or if you were just trying to scared me, fission mailed.

kthx.

(by the way, text is much easier to read if you use linebreaks. Press enter once in a while.. especially on new thoughts. It makes it easier to read, and it is not like you are running into a wall of text)

[DarkReality]

You were banned. For a day. Weren't you?

[Sam]

Uh.. no? The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters.

[mattz1010]

Actually... You WERE banned for a day... How often do you check the forums?

[nin]

Ahh you're so ignorant.. =)

[noobpwner1]

Oh, and editing someone's (perfectly within the rules) post and banning them for no reason other than the fact that what they said is something you disagree with? Abuse of power. ;)
My point exactly.

[nin]

Jesus Christ people. If my explanation isn't "satisfactory" to you, too bad. Get over it... And while you're at it, GROW UP!

[ODDDLY]

Jesus Christ people. If my explanation isn't "satisfactory" to you, too bad. Get over it... And while you're at it, GROW UP!
"GROW UP!"

Stop being a child, and answer my PM already; I am getting sick of waiting.

[Sparky]

I've made countless threads proclaiming NIN's love of censorship, this isn't a new thing. Get over it and grow up you turds.

[nin]

Meh.. I love you too Sparky!

[Sparky]

Meh.. I love you too Sparky!
I request you change my name to Pufflekins because it is manlierer:cool:

[nin]

You'd hate me if I really changed it! =|

[Sparky]

Wait, what?

[Sam]

If I was banned, it was not for a 24 hour period. Maybe just until midnight, 'cause I left around 9PM that day, and came back on the forums before 9 PM the next day. No banning that I saw.

Oh, and calling a user ignorant is a flame, u shuld b B& kthx.

[nin]

Sooo so ignorant...

[dastardly_fiend]

This question has probably been asked already, but there's a lot of crap in this thread I really shouldn't have to try and sort through.

How was tophat's ban excessive? Didn't he do enough cursing, flaming, and spamming to amount to more than three warnings? That would mean banning for a month with the old system.

[TOP HAT McBABS]

I agree with dastardly_fiend. I take her point of view. This is just silly.

[ODDDLY]

I am in the Sock Council. LOL!

[Sam]

I'm ignorant?.. and you don't even see what you are all causing to happen right under your nose.

[mattz1010]

Cool Dogbert, although it's a bit glitchy in places.

[noobpwner1]

Can you not tell that he made it look crappy on purpose?

[ODDDLY]

What? No, I am a SC member d00ds.

[mattz1010]

no, he could at least have TRIED to make a fake version

[h00pla]

What? No, I am a SC member d00ds.

and I am the lord of the squishy squeedly spooches

[ODDDLY]

no, he could at least have TRIED to make a fake version
It's real, but just not a good badge. Meh. : \


and I am the lord of the squishy squeedly spooches
Last edited by Hoopla : Today at 03:07 PM. Reason: making it more clear

Clearly, a successful edit.

[h00pla]

Last edited by Hoopla : Today at 03:07 PM. Reason: making it more clear

Clearly, a successful edit.[/QUOTE]

I meant whom I was replying to