View Full Version : Lost RPG; It's back again
truimagz
04-19-2008, 11:06 PM
Been a while since I last made a post on this topic, but it's been long enough I figured it was safe to make an update post.
I finally took the next step on this project and now we have a playable game.
Lost ~ World of Warcraft: Broken Allegiance..... (is it to soon for flash remakes?)
We have a starting area, we have quests, we have loot, exp, and death, we have a true beta release.
I encourage anyone with the time to download it to check it out. You will not be let down.
If you don't have time, or don't care to download it, at least go check out my posts, maybie the information will intise you to play it after all.
you can learn all you want about the game here, as well as download it and ENJOY!
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10
yes it's 100% Flash
Sorry for not posting all of the things listed at the above link here in this post, but it's alot of info, and I don't see the need to clutter this thread if it's already on the net just a click away.
As always I am open for any suggestions, comments or feedback.
*Note: Please remmember this is not for sponsorship, please do not petition me for any types of add space, this is simply Fan Appreciation. (just more extravagant than a youtube video)
ry79418
04-20-2008, 12:27 AM
Your World of Warcraft project is looking very nice :)
LizardRob
04-20-2008, 08:57 AM
Wow, 60mb. That's a beast.
Will be worth it though, I'm sure.
This would be simply awesome if it were an MMORPG.
In one of the quest screenshots it says "To puny for my taste" which should be "Too puny for my taste"
Downloading the game now.
LizardRob
04-20-2008, 09:08 AM
It's awesome. One thing I don't like is that an enemy was standing right next to where you enter a map piece, so I was attacked instantly.
I died and when dead on the ground I could continue to attack.
truimagz
04-20-2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the bug reports, amongst the dead bug there were a few others reported by other players.
You can read about them and also download a smaller sized "patch" to your current version here.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31
Or donwload a new "complete" version here
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30
You really need hotkeys to open the inventory and other menus.
ry79418
04-20-2008, 01:43 PM
You really need hotkeys to open the inventory and other menus.
Agreed, you should make it more like the real world of warcraft with like b as backpack, c as character, and maybe eventually make it so people can make their own keybindings:D
Edit: I'm confused to how you regain health?
LizardRob
04-20-2008, 02:00 PM
Is there some method of taking attacks off of the action bar which I'm missing?
Ry, press S to regain health slowly. The only downfall is you can't do anything while sitting (not even open the backpack) or you'll stand up. Plus rage depleets as your health increases.
ry79418
04-20-2008, 02:08 PM
Ya i speced survival so i jest used the heal thing.
In my opinion, it takes to long to level
I havn't seen any loot yet.
Ya i speced survival so i jest used the heal thing.
In my opinion, it takes to long to level
I havn't seen any loot yet.
When you kill something just click on it to see any loot it has.
I got some ear-rings, a shirt and some random stuff.
It doesn't save our game does it?
truimagz
04-20-2008, 02:11 PM
The last update to the "Main" folder contains a serious bug fix to the loot system, if your serious about playing it for a while you should update this, to get fat loots, when it was released only the level 1 loot table was in effect.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31
only 2mb
Also, completing the 3 available quests gives you experience, might help ya RY
Matt, there will be a save game feature as soon as the Mystic Maglow returns, he will have the ability to remmember things for you.... coming soon
Sounds sweet, I haven't done any quests yet, I'll go try them out.
edit: I brought her the staff and got cool earings giving me 6 strength. Woo\
edit: Give us WASD movement too plox. Arrows are annoying. Plus maybe use space bar to talk to someone. I hate having to use the mouse so much.
edit: Woot, level 2 now with a hammer and brass knuckles. I own
ry79418
04-20-2008, 03:19 PM
i don't know but ya now the loot is working :)
i found the quests too lol
edit: you should make a re-pack, so for new people downloading it, its just one thing, and you should also just have the patch
truimagz
04-20-2008, 03:22 PM
Hey thanks Matt!
I have posted this on many forums I am a member of and everyone has been very helpful so far in pointing out any bugs, as before i go heavy into map and quest making i want to make sure the fundementals are wokring well.
But my point is to check the Patch area often if you notice a bug, there may be a patch to fix it.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31
Anyways... Cheers! and thanks for trying my game and giving me feedback.
-Give us WASD movement too plox. Arrows are annoying. Plus maybe use space bar to talk to someone.
I'm concerned about using wasd for movement, there are alot of things the playr can do that your not seeing yet (cuz it's not out yet) that will require keyboard controlls, there will be tradeskills, and certain things will be bound to the keygoard like bandage, drink heal/rage pot, mining, gathering, and im just not sure yet how to handle all of this.
I will keep in mind the wasd movement though, maybie i can move sit to another key in the next update.
ry79418
04-20-2008, 03:31 PM
wow you are doing a lot of work very fast!:P
Understandable. This game is really awesome, I'm having so much fun playing it. I'm addicted already.
LizardRob
04-20-2008, 03:36 PM
I started with 1.1, now it's up to 1.3.
Do I have to put 1.2 in before 1.3? Or can I just put 1.3 in and it'll be up to date? (I've already done this).
Edit: Nevermind. "From any previous version".
Aw, I have to download the patch now. I was about to do the ogre quest.
edit: Switching back to your old crappy armor set after you get the warrior stuff makes the HP bar huge and sticking way out of it's holder.
edit: We need an indicator showing how much gold we have...
edit: somehow an ogre got on to the black area to the right of the map. He ran off in to the black and didn't come back.
edit: you can loot dead bodie while you fight. I don't see how someone would be able to in real life.
edit: Have I told how ####ING EPIC this game is? If not... IT'S ####ING EPIC
edit: I have a champion shirt, a sword and a #### load of other stuff. Trying to get gold coins now so I can buy that champion ring thing.
edit: an ogre finally dropped the ring. YA! Too bad all I got for it was another sword like the one I had. Oh well, DUAL WEILD SWORDS HELL YES.
Love the game so far. ;p get that save feature in and I'll be happy as a clam.
edit: I suggest a one click on an item in the inventory to equip it rather than drag and drop?
edit: thinkign about that last suggestion, it wouldn't work because then you couldn't remove an item. How bought double clicking to equip? Plus the drag and drop if we want to equip/delete and item.
edit: How does a wolf have a farther attack range than me with a longsword?
truimagz
04-24-2008, 05:09 AM
LOL Matt, that last suggstion makes since. But during my performance tests I found it better to do a Mathmatical area check for hit testing in combat rather than a physical one. Are you saying maybie that range should be increased?
ANYWAYS TO THE GOOD NEWS!!
Tons of new update, save game feature, a main menu screen, and the goblin blacksmith now buys your stuff too!
Lots more, but thats a glimpse, new maps coming soon too, go get VER 1.5 and test the hell out of it, now you can ssave your game maybie you'll get alot of cool stuff.
Future updates should only be small patches.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 08:52 AM
So... What's sit now?
Edit: When you talk to somebody then walk out of speaking range, the speach panel should go away like it does in the real WoW.
truimagz
04-24-2008, 08:53 AM
space bar.
figured it was easier since you can use wasd to move, now yo can sit with thumb.
you can also move your abilities around by holding shift
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 08:59 AM
Yeah, that is easier. Thanks
Bug: If you press any direction key, then immediately click anywhere, it will animate the character walking in the direction you keyed, but move towards where you clicked.
truimagz
04-24-2008, 09:04 AM
Hey I made a player screen shot thread on the game forum.
posted a couple of my own... hehe, witht he new save game feature im able to find alot of stuff.
so I took a few screens of my dude and my fat purple belt i just found.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=61#61
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 09:11 AM
I'm terrible at this game, I can hardly kill a wolf without dieing.
truimagz
04-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Hey nice bug find, I fixed it.
Problem was that I set the roation via a function when you press the location to move, and didnt add it to the game loop to try and save a bit of processing, but the problem is that you could hit a key without removing the click function before the click-move code got thrown i the loop, so I just added the players rotation in, works now.
Hey Liz,
if ya having problems try this.
get out the Bleed, and Invigorate abilities.
run up to a wolf and hold down the bleed hotkey number till you stack 5, then switch to Stab or slice, and when you get 70 rage cast invigorate.
you should be fine, at low levels the bleed ability really comes in handy.
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Thanks for that, Bleed does help alot. I finished that first quest, the Goblin Ray one, now I'm trying to get that hammer.
This game is awesome, I sincerely hope you consider making it Online Multiplayer.
truimagz
04-24-2008, 09:33 AM
Heres a hint about the hammer, it only drops off level 2 skellies, as it's a level 2 wep.
So gear up a bit off the level 1's till you feel strong enough to take em out.
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 09:54 AM
I finished that quest, and then killed Exsin. Now I'm level 2, and seeing what I can do next.
No more bugs I've found yet.
Edit: Spelling error on the "Van Reitlan: How you do shape up" text. it says "since there so rare", and it should be "since they're so rare".
Edit: On the same text, it says "Now I can't keep him quite about it", when it should be "Now I can't keep him quiet about it".
Edit: Bug: I walked into the map north of the starting town and I was standing right on top of a wolf. I didn't move, and I could attack the wolf, but it wouldn't attack back.
UUUUUGH I HATE killing the Ogres, every damn time I die when they're 1 hit away from dieing.
Damn these ogres, just give me the freaking champions ring.
Most of them are dropping no loot at all.
Edit: Finally got that ring, and level 3.
Bug: After getting the champions ring and completing that quest, Van Reitlan has the speech icon when you mouse over him, but when you click him no speech comes. Also, after completing that quest, the lady who's the brother of Van Reitlan repeats her last quest for you.
Kinda bug: The enemies are attached to the screen by their center point, so half of their bodies suddenly appears while you're walking rather than scrolling on. Particularly annoying for larger enemies such as the Ogres, specially their corpses. It's the same problem for removing enemies aswell, they get removed while half of their body is still visible.
ry79418
04-24-2008, 04:36 PM
pfffff holy crap you have done a lot :)
its lookin really good
LizardRob
04-24-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm level 7 now and doing awesomely. I'm gonna wait till there's a new training area, the level 5s don't give much exp anymore.
truimagz
04-24-2008, 05:54 PM
good bug finds lizard, i believe i fixed them all, and i will move out the add/remove monster code a bit to get them off screen during there removall and adding
Edit. good call on that add remove thing, ya know i always seen it but never really thought about, it's way better now i moved em out 50px all around, looks much better, you'll see in the next update which wont be till i have some mroe maps
ry79418
04-24-2008, 06:42 PM
just a suggestion, you might want to make it so when you go under the trees, that they become 20% alpha
truimagz
04-24-2008, 11:02 PM
cant do that rY.
with performance being the biggest aim for this game its always going to be _visible = false or true for any land/map features, such as roofs in towns coming soon.
Alphas kill speed, im already noticing a 3% cpu increase just from setting the popups to 80% alpha by default, and since many people will use the mouse those popups will always be there. I am able to decrease to cpu load however by making sure the are displayed over static non movig images, like the border.
Alpha'd trees with a moving and possibly fighting animated character + enemies under neath is asking for lag.
Plus I think the tree cover adds a nice mystery to the game, later it will come in more handy.
BTW, anyone noticing any lag? Id like to know where and what caused it.
ry79418
04-25-2008, 12:09 AM
on my other computer i notice quite a bit of lagg.
this computer has a nvidia graphics card, and 1.2 ghz procesor
truimagz
04-25-2008, 02:39 AM
when do you lag? what resolution do you run?
hwat are the specs of that other computer?
I run it on my laptop, and my main pc, at 1680x1050 i catch a little lag no and then. But im trying to gear it towards 1280x1024~1024x768
LizardRob
04-25-2008, 09:05 AM
The lag I've had isn't very much, but it's still noticeable.
The only option I've changed is Spell alpha, I turned it down and now for some reason, whenever I walk it's laggy. When I'm standing still, however, I get no lag. I imagine it's something to do with the maps scrolling, but again, I've only changed the spell alpha option so I don't know why that would affect movement lag.
It slowly lagged more and more as I got higher level and more items, aswell.
Oh, and here's a suggestion;
Have a loading screen for each map area, like when you go in the Deeprun Trams on WoW. Sometimes I'm left with a black screen for 10 or so seconds, and I imagine for even slower computers it's alot longer.
Edit: I signed up as Rob on your forums, Truimagz. ^.^
teenagegluesniffer
04-25-2008, 12:31 PM
When the guy asks you to get the ring he says something like 'there rare' when it should be they're. Only thing i've noticed wrong with it so far. No lag or anything. It was kind of difficult getting started, but once you mess around with it for a little bit and figure everything out it becomes pretty easy.
ry79418
04-25-2008, 02:05 PM
when do you lag? what resolution do you run?
hwat are the specs of that other computer?
I run it on my laptop, and my main pc, at 1680x1050 i catch a little lag no and then. But im trying to gear it towards 1280x1024~1024x768
I run XP on my main computer. 1.2ghz nvidia graphics card, fairly nice 1024x768 resolution. Unfortunatly, flash CS3 won't load on my Vista laptop, where i notice no lagg.
untouchable
04-25-2008, 03:58 PM
i'll give this game a try since its been getting some pretty good reviews
truimagz
04-26-2008, 04:11 AM
sounds good.
Thanks for taking the time to try it out.
LizardRob
04-26-2008, 11:25 AM
Downloading the next patch.
This game is getting hilariously big.
truimagz
04-26-2008, 12:29 PM
yes, major graphics upgrade this version.
Most people were able to run it with no lag before, so I upped the graphics.
Still downloads quickly though, about 8 minutes, not to bad of a wait.
untouchable
04-26-2008, 12:33 PM
whats the best weapon you can get so far?
LizardRob
04-26-2008, 12:57 PM
Fel Iron Claw to my knowledge. I don't know whether there was a new weapon in the update though.
ry79418
04-27-2008, 12:08 AM
check out my questing and strategy guide at
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=142#142
untouchable
04-27-2008, 06:14 AM
how much is fel iron claw?
LizardRob
04-27-2008, 08:10 AM
You can't buy it, it's a loot drop. I think it sells for 6 or so gold, though.
truimagz
04-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Some pretty good updates lately.
And a little bit mroe content.
http://www.truimagz.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=27b6620ad00e4bbea884df9af510a8ed
Malignus
04-28-2008, 05:04 PM
Hey truimagz, what are your plans for this game, distribution-wise? Are you planning to make it a truimagz.com exclusive download?
Arachnox
04-28-2008, 05:52 PM
Wow, nice game man.
I liked it and couldn't find any bugs, or errors.
truimagz
04-28-2008, 06:08 PM
Malignus ~ yes
Arachnox ~ thanks!
Malignus
04-29-2008, 05:29 PM
Truimagz, if you don't mind me asking, what program do you use to convert the swf to an exe? Do you know of one that doesn't mess up the game's functionality?
truimagz
04-29-2008, 06:11 PM
Well first thing you do is select "Windows projector" .exe from the publish settings.
Then use this program http://www.truimagz.com/programBackups/Reshack.zip (freeware) to remove the....
+ Cursor resources
+ Menu 602 ~ is the top left menu bar, (ie open,close,control) you edit the script, deleting or adding the controls you want shown there
+ Menu 604 ~ (the right click menu, I remove the entire folder)
+ Menu 610 ~ (same thing)
+ Menu 613 ~ (same thing again)
+ String Table 1 ~ (this is the top left description * 1033 is always the english, change (2, "Adobe Flash Player 9") to be what you want it to say)
you can also change it's icons using the
+ Icon Group
then once that is done, if you want to you can keep your games "Main.exe in a folder, and create a .bat file to open it with.
A .bat file is just a notepad doc saved as .bat
for instance ope notepad and Type....
START Myfolder/myEXE.exe
save the file as myGame.bat
then you can click it instead of the games published .exe to run the game
I then use this program http://www.truimagz.com/programBackups/BATtoEXE.zip (freeweare) to convert that .bat file to an .exe itself and add an icon
Malignus
04-29-2008, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the tip! By the way, I gave Lost a play just now, and I have to say, this project is shaping up amazingly. IMHO, this is a much better showcase for your talents than the stationary shooter games you were making before. I'm honestly pretty amazed that you (or anybody) would be able to put together something this sophisticated and high quality in Flash.
Aquamenti
04-30-2008, 06:29 AM
Yeah, Truimagz, you're the best Flash animator I've seen.
Not that I've see many, but you're the best.
truimagz
04-30-2008, 07:44 AM
Well thanks, but theres alot better than me out there.
Anyway thanks again, and if your comment was mainly because of this game, remmember the graphics were created by other people, I just adapted what I needed for this game.
LizardRob
04-30-2008, 08:49 AM
"Flash animator", Aqua? I'm pretty sure the only animating he did was in the program he used to make the 3D.
Thanks alot for that .exe tip, is there a code to make it fullscreen in the .bat?
Aquamenti
04-30-2008, 09:21 AM
Well, Rob, you think all the animations in his game just came out of the blue?
Also, should I call him a good drawer then? That sounds gay.
LizardRob
04-30-2008, 09:30 AM
"I'm pretty sure the only animating he did was in the program he used to make the 3D."
He did animate them, just not in Flash, making "Flash animator" unrelated to what he does.
He is awesome at making games though.
Malignus
04-30-2008, 11:37 AM
Another question for you: do you use .sols to save the game? I'm findig that the game refuses to create sols after I publish it as an exe.
Aquamenti
04-30-2008, 12:42 PM
I believe he uses .sol files. I think I saw one in my localhost folder in #SharedObjects.
Can't open it though so can't prove that.
truimagz
05-01-2008, 03:51 AM
Yes I use .sol/sharedobjects to save game data.
Not sure if this is considered taking it a step further, but I believe I take it a step further by using objects + arrays to store the data + in game variable swapping to help protect from cheating.
Shared objects are easily editable, much many of the alternatives are as well. Since I don't really wnat to alert any antivirus or firewalls at this time this is my best option.
At a later time, once the in-game self patching is completed, your save game data will be encrypted and stored in mysql.
But at this time cheating is not a concern of mine, if your playing and testing the game for bugs and making suggestions for improvements are all I care about.
Anyway, thank you again for your interest in this game, and I hope it entertained you for a bit of your free time.
Maxpayne
05-01-2008, 09:09 AM
can't wait 4 the next area. Already lvl 5.
There are also a few bugs and glitches, but all in all a great flash game
Drew 21
05-03-2008, 09:09 PM
I love the game and im at level 2.
Glitch: I was walking to the orgs an I went through the black background and couldn't get out of it.
Hope all goes well with your game.
ry79418
05-04-2008, 04:06 AM
he has already said he knows, and everyone knows, plus the maps are going to be seamless, so when the game is finished, you will go into the next zone.
truimagz
05-04-2008, 06:58 AM
I have to ask ry, what is the 79418 about?
LizardRob
05-04-2008, 10:21 AM
When did he say the maps are going to be seamless?
By seamless, do you mean to say I won't see any black or have to wait for the next area to load anymore?
ry79418
05-04-2008, 11:31 AM
i believe no more black, but I think there will still be the load time :( I'm not sure
The 79418 is just a number lol
madmech
05-05-2008, 03:18 PM
I can't seem to load the website. Anything I need to dl,I used both IE and FireFox to open.
EDIT:It's working nvm.
truimagz
05-07-2008, 06:30 AM
The mpas will be loaded as they were tiles, "super tiles" once enough of the game world is finished and I can work on tying the maps together artistically I will thne right the tile engine to bond everything together
truimagz
05-14-2008, 04:31 PM
developement is down while I work.
The game is still up the forum is still up, but no more dev for probably 2 weeks.
Enjoy the game I'll reply to comments but no time to work on it.
cheers
ry79418
05-14-2008, 05:11 PM
ahhhhhhh this sucks
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